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British Airways Summer 2007 India Update  
User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4746 posts, RR: 43
Posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3796 times:

Hi,

I would like to inform you all of BA's Summer 2007 India plans:

DEL - gets downgraded to a double daily B 777-200ER nonstop from LHR instead of a double daily B 744 which is flown currently...quite a decrease in daily capacity!!! Any special reason why?

BOM - too gets downgraded from the current double daily B 744 operation to a daily B 772ER + daily B 744.

MAA - 5 weekly B 772ER nonstop service

BLR - remains a daily B 772ER nonstop service

CCU - remains a 3 weekly B 772ER service

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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32596 posts, RR: 72
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3779 times:

Quoting Behramjee (Thread starter):

DEL - gets downgraded to a double daily B 777-200ER nonstop from LHR instead of a double daily B 744 which is flown currently...quite a decrease in daily capacity!!! Any special reason why?

I would guess yields. The big India-UK routes to Delhi and Mumbai, while surely still profitable, have seen heavily increased capacity and frequency since UK-India Open Skies.



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User currently offlineHB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 4496 posts, RR: 72
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3770 times:

BA seems to be following other airlines in adjusting capacity to India in the somewhat calmer northern summer season. Also, the gradual saturation of the Europe-India routes is not to be underestimated, and that market is further undermined by an ever increasing number of nonstops between India and non European markets.

User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4746 posts, RR: 43
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3747 times:

I guess BA finally realized that there is too much excess capacity been offered on the LHR-DEL/BOM routes hence the B 777 being sent on one of the 2 daily services each to BOM & DEL...smart move!

Indian Airlines last week announced that they are no longer interested in flying their newly leased A 332s to UK from India as there is far too much competition and low yield to deal with and rather fly nonstop to JNB, NBO, Australia and the Far East from India with those birds than UK.

I still feel that DEL-MAN / BOM-MAN nonstop can work if scheduled and marketed the right way as there is a niche market for that route as well as 4 weekly AMD-LHR with an A 332/B 772 and HYD-LHR 3-4 weekly A 332/B 772.


User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3212 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3736 times:

Quoting Behramjee (Thread starter):
BLR - remains a daily B 772ER nonstop service

This service seems to be doing well - colleagues are able to get $1400 return tickets on the SFO-BLR sector on BA now - which was earlier unthinkable (it's still unthinkable on LH - lowest last minute fares still around the $1800-$2000 range).



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User currently offlineBOEING787 From India, joined May 2004, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3704 times:

Quoting Behramjee (Thread starter):

BOM - too gets downgraded from the current double daily B 744 operation to a daily B 772ER + daily B 744.

Correct me if I'm wrong please, but wasn't BA operating with a B744 an on the BA139/138 flights and a 772ER on the BA198/199 flights some time ago?


User currently offlineUpperDeck79 From Finland, joined Feb 2005, 1139 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3681 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 1):
Quoting Behramjee (Thread starter):

DEL - gets downgraded to a double daily B 777-200ER nonstop from LHR instead of a double daily B 744 which is flown currently...quite a decrease in daily capacity!!! Any special reason why?

I would guess yields. The big India-UK routes to Delhi and Mumbai, while surely still profitable, have seen heavily increased capacity and frequency since UK-India Open Skies.

One-stops are increasing, too. Oneworld partner AY just opened its HEL-DEL route yesterday with good connections from LHR. Albeit not daily but 5 times per week next summer.



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User currently offlineVivekman2006 From India, joined May 2006, 530 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3596 times:

As on today i.e. October 31st, BA operates one 772ER and one 744 to BOM. However, this is going to change from November as BA would operate 744s on both its flights to BOM during the winter.

As Behramjee mentioned, one of these flights (presumably the day-time departure from BOM) would then get downgraded to a 772ER in summer 2007.

Quoting BOEING787 (Reply 5):
Correct me if I'm wrong please, but wasn't BA operating with a B744 an on the BA139/138 flights and a 772ER on the BA198/199 flights some time ago?


User currently offlineFeroze From India, joined Dec 2004, 794 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3595 times:

The double daily 744s to DEL and BOM only started yesterday with the winter schedule. Until then it has been 1 x 772 and 1 x 744 daily to each city. Because of the explosion in capacity in the last 12-18 months some levelling off is now apparent with carriers now settling down to realise where and what their markets are. The requirement for the 744s is to cope with the winter rush, which come February/March is no longer there.

[Edited 2006-10-31 10:03:20]

User currently offlineVivekman2006 From India, joined May 2006, 530 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3539 times:

Whoa...which means the BA 772 that I clicked on Sunday was the last 772 flight atleast for the next few months!!  Wow!  Big grin

Will put up its pic soon...

Quoting Feroze (Reply 8):
The double daily 744s to DEL and BOM only started yesterday with the winter schedule.


User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8273 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3278 times:
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All the growth from Jet Airways, BMI, Virgin has sapped BA once fabulous honeypot to India. I sure the Indian Goose is still quite golden

User currently offlineMk777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3015 times:

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 3):
I still feel that DEL-MAN / BOM-MAN nonstop can work if scheduled and marketed the right way as there is a niche market for that route

i agree, especially if MAN can connect to JFK, IAD, IAH, LAX. It already connects to ORD (BMI). i think it would be a good alternate than flying to India via LHR. Maybe AI with their new planes could do this.



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