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Why Did NWA Choose RR For The 787?  
User currently offlineScouse From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 77 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3585 times:

I have just noticed that NWA have chosen RR trent 1000 engines for their 787,s that have been ordered. Does anybody have any ideas why they might have gone for the trent as I believe they do not have any other planes with RR? Have they ever used planes with RR?
I did search for this topic but only found one sentence within another thread that mentioned this.


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User currently offlineLegacytravel From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1067 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3571 times:

because it would have cost too much to feed the gerbils.
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User currently offlineAreopagus From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1357 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3522 times:

Because they couldn't get P&W.  Smile

User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7338 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3464 times:		 Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Quoting Scouse (Thread starter):
Does anybody have any ideas why they might have gone for the trent as I believe they do not have any other planes with RR? Have they ever used planes with RR?

NWA has never ordered RR engines. We only operated the RR powered 757's that NW-O inherited from Republic. But PW didn't win a contract for the 787, and RR probably gave us better financing for the engines and the aircraft.


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User currently offlinePM From India, joined Feb 2005, 6753 posts, RR: 65
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3449 times:

At the time of ordering 787s NW announced that they had an MoU (or something similar) with GE. It seemed a done deal. But then, some months later, NW announced that they'd chosen RR.

What happened? Did RR just do some great sales work or did GE somehow blow it? I'd love to know.

User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 10897 posts, RR: 100
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3277 times:		 Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Quoting Areopagus (Reply 2):
Because they couldn't get P&W.

 checkmark  At that point it was an open field.

Quoting PM (Reply 4):
What happened? Did RR just do some great sales work or did GE somehow blow it? I'd love to know.

Good question PM, I'm afraid I don't know the *exact* answer. Part of it might be the triple spools improved durability and fuel economy on *short* flights. Thus I speculate NW will use the planes for long haul followed by a short hop to maximize utilization... But I'm only speculating. Currently GE is promising public numbers a fraction more efficiency (1%) than RR.

The GEnX weight I do not have a good number. After fuel economy, weight is the next biggest selection criteria...  scratchchin 

The Trent 1000 weights in at 11,924 lbm.
www.rolls-royce.com/civil_aerospace/downloads/airlines/trent_1000.pdf

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User currently offlineWingnutMN From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 590 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3126 times:

I thought it was because RR is helping bankroll the 787 for NW. Wasn't there a thread on here recently talking about how RR and Bombardier and a couple other companies were offer large amounts of financing for NW to exit ch. 11?

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User currently offlinePM From India, joined Feb 2005, 6753 posts, RR: 65
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2938 times:

Quoting WingnutMN (Reply 6):
I thought it was because RR is helping bankroll the 787 for NW. Wasn't there a thread on here recently talking about how RR and Bombardier and a couple other companies were offer large amounts of financing for NW to exit ch. 11?

That came some time after the selection of the Trent. My guess is that it was more a case of RR protecting an important deal than part of the original agreement. But I'm only guessing.
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