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Air Berlin Starts CPH - PMI Route  
User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3997 posts, RR: 5
Posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3813 times:

Air Berlin will add CPH to its PMI-hub operation next summer with a daily nonstop CPH-PMI-CPH service (AB9474/9475). Flight times CPH 0535 - 0830 CPH 2100 - 0005 CPH. Fares from 49 EUR all incl. one-way.

Inbound to PMI, the flight will connect with Air Berlin's morning bank, outbound, the flight will connect with the afternoon bank. As a result, up to a dozen one-stop connections via PMI to destinations in SPain and Portugal are available from CPH.

After ZRH, STN and AMS another non-German PMI service.

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User currently offlineJoost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3167 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3795 times:

And again a airplane that will apparantly be based @CPH. They also have one single aircraft based @AMS. I'm interested in how they work with their crew for these flights: the aircraft only overnight in AMS/CPH but don't visit the airports during the day.

Are they employing Spanish crew, based @PMI that overnight in a hotel @AMS? Are they employing Dutch/Danish crew that make some very long days?


User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4679 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3765 times:

The aircraft is not based in AMS (after they stopped TXL) but only nightstops here. A lot of carriers do this.


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User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2387 posts, RR: 28
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3619 times:

I would guess that they will make a crew change on one of their Germany-CPH routes so that one crew will stay in CPH and then fly to PMI the next morning and vice versa. 0005-0535 is not enough time for a nightstop.


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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4693 posts, RR: 42
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3566 times:

Didn't AB employ Dutch crews for their AMS flights?


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User currently offlineKevin777 From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 1165 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3504 times:

Interesting. Wonder how they'll be doing on the route; it'll more than double capacity: Currently (summer schedule) there's JK twice weekly (M80) and NB thrice weekly (735/7/8) (plus charter). Adding a daily 738 (guess it'll be a 738) with 186 seats seems like quite an overkill, even considering that they're going for connecting traffic in PMI. Must say I'm surprised by the scale of this - and the timing, 5.35 will be the first flight out of CPH, and what a mess with the crew that'll have to fly TXL-CPH-PMI-??-TXL or something, but I guess they know what they're doing. Wonder how much they'll cut it back toin the winter, can't imagine it'll go 7x weekly year-round.

It's sure as hell a punch to Sterling; doubt that Spanair will be that affected since many pax on these flights are SK/Star-FF-point redeeming on the SK-code. Mallorca is coming up, also for Danes buying property abroad, but PMI (as and end destination anyway) is a lot more seasonal than, say, AGP, that can rely on year-round VFR traffic (snowbird related stuff..)

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User currently offlineJoost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3167 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3466 times:

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 4):
Didn't AB employ Dutch crews for their AMS flights?

A bit of searching on their website, they indeed mention AMS as a crew base. Also, the timings for the AMS-PMI flight do allow the crew to leave AMS in the morning and return in the evening.

AMS-PMI:
0625-0900
and on several days:
1125-1355

PMI-AMS:
1455-1730
and on the days where they left AMS @1125:
2005-2230

So working 0625-1730 or 1125-2230 is possible, as they mention on their website that you can work up to 14 hours a day, doing 4 legs.


User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3997 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3396 times:

I am pretty sure that Air Berlin eyes a considerable amount of connceting traffic. For travel between Northern Europe and anything in Spain/Portugal AB via PMI is certainly the smartest option if no nonstops are available. The folks from Copenhagen will be able to travel via PMI to BCN, IBZ, MAH, VLC, SCQ, SVQ, OVB, BIO, AGP, XRY, OPO, LIS, FAO, LEI, MJV, MAD.

By the way, I forgot to mention that in addition to STN, AMS, ZRH and CPH an other non-German/Austrian airport linked to the PMI-hub is BGY. I would not be surprised if ORY will become the next to join the network and possibly later NCE and FCO.


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