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Delta CDG-CVG From 777 To 767?  
User currently offlineNijltje From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 241 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5389 times:

Hello, I booked my flight to CVG and just find out that it's not a 777 anymore but a 767? Why?
Maybe I'm wrong but wasn't air France also flying with their own metal on CVG?
I hope some Delta expert can help me...

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User currently offlineARGinLON From Vatican City, joined Jun 2005, 614 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5373 times:

If I'm not wrong all 772 are gone from the European Markets. Only 763/4s from now on.

User currently offlinePNQIAD From India, joined May 2006, 585 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5300 times:

IIRC, DL moved 777 to their new non-stop JFK-BOM run and 767 to its former slot.

User currently offlineDAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5274 times:

Quoting Nijltje (Thread starter):
Hello, I booked my flight to CVG and just find out that it's not a 777 anymore but a 767? Why?

Because it together with another 777 is needed for ATL-JFK-BOM. In exchange, CVG-CDG and another former 777 route will get the 763ERs previously used for ATL-CDG-BOM, which is being dropped.

Quoting Nijltje (Thread starter):
Maybe I'm wrong but wasn't air France also flying with their own metal on CVG?

AF only operates the route on a seasonal basis, which to AF means putting out a PR that they are dropping CVG, only to put out another PR 4 months later that they will return to CVG, though it looks like actually this time AF actually is gone for good from CVG.

Quoting ARGinLON (Reply 1):
If I'm not wrong all 772 are gone from the European Markets. Only 763/4s from now on.

Correct.


User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22309 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5096 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 3):
though it looks like actually this time AF actually is gone for good from CVG.

Why?



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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 46
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5013 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 4):
Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 3):
though it looks like actually this time AF actually is gone for good from CVG.

Why?

It's been mentioned here:
AF Summer 2007 - 744 To ATL, 6th JFK And Others (by HB-IWC Oct 29 2006 in Civil Aviation)
Reason's probably the reduction of feed with the flight cuts at CVG, and/or feeding more pax through ATL or JFK.


User currently offlineGoldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1778 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4905 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 3):
AF only operates the route on a seasonal basis, which to AF means putting out a PR that they are dropping CVG, only to put out another PR 4 months later that they will return to CVG, though it looks like actually this time AF actually is gone for good from CVG.

Exactly. They're constantly changing plans for CVG service. May be they're gone for true but I hope they'll change their mind and send again a nice A343 there next summer.

Quoting Nijltje (Thread starter):
Maybe I'm wrong but wasn't air France also flying with their own metal on CVG?

AF used to serve the route year-round, but since about 2 or 3 years, they serve it with their own metal only during the spring/summer season. Otherwise, they code-share year-round on the other flight operated by DL. AF has used quite different A/C on this route since they started it : B747-200, A332, A343


User currently offlineWorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4814 times:

ATLFRA remains a 777 for the winter.

DL also doesn't need as much feed into CDG since its India flights don't go through CDG anymore.


User currently offlineB4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2611 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4811 times:

Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 7):
DL also doesn't need as much feed into CDG since its India flights don't go through CDG anymore.

CDG is DL's best connection point for 2nd tier (that DL doesn't already server) and 3rd tier markets within Europe as well as many African and Middle East locales.

CDG is very important to DL for connections and feed!!!!!

But yes, the MAA route is finished and the BOM is direct from JFK with origin in ATL.



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User currently offlineZsx81 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 301 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4731 times:

Quoting Nijltje (Thread starter):
Hello, I booked my flight to CVG and just find out that it's not a 777 anymore but a 767? Why?
Maybe I'm wrong but wasn't air France also flying with their own metal on CVG?
I hope some Delta expert can help me...

Those beasts will be working much harder with the new..

DXB
BOM
ICN

and the existing

NRT
FRA

routes!


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 46
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4636 times:

Quoting B4real (Reply 8):
CDG is DL's best connection point for 2nd tier (that DL doesn't already server) and 3rd tier markets within Europe as well as many African and Middle East locales.

CDG is very important to DL for connections and feed!!!!!

CDG no doubt is still important, but not nearly as important as it used to be. Aside from the dropped India flights, DL's expansion of nonstop transatlantic flights that overfly the CDG hub also means a reduced need for feed into CDG. And it's not just Europe, but also Africa (ACC, DKR, JNB) as well as the Middle East with TLV and DXB. CDG will remain a main interest for Delta, but the more nonstop flights, the less pax Delta has to feed through CDG.

Plus, add the fact that DL and KL also this year started codesharing, which obviously means quite a few pax connect through AMS now instead of CDG (I know I will on my next US visit).


User currently offlineNijltje From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4617 times:

Mmmm so what is the best to fly BRU-CVG? I really want to fly 340 or 777... Is an european carrier even flying to CVG directly?

User currently offlineGoldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1778 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4465 times:

Quoting Nijltje (Reply 11):
Is an european carrier even flying to CVG directly?

No, AF was the only EU carrier to fly there


User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4731 posts, RR: 45
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4437 times:

Quoting Zsx81 (Reply 9):
Those beasts will be working much harder with the new..

DXB
BOM
ICN

and the existing

NRT
FRA

routes!

Add TLV take away FRA for next year.



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