NZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6643 posts, RR: 36
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2447 times:
Sounds good, but at awfully strange times though.. Leave PVG at 3am and arrive in HKG at 5:45!
CX only has so many options to fly into China. When Dragonair came along, they gave all of the options to them. So now they own Dragonair they can fly into China more easily. They were probably always looking to fly this route, ever since they started PEK. I was hoping for this link, now everyone will be able to get to PVG all the way on CX metal. I wonder if there are any more destinations in China CX would be interested in travelling to..
PEK18R36L From China, joined Dec 2005, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2289 times:
Quoting Superhub (Reply 2): I am a little curious as to why CX decided to start PVG services with its own aircrafts, even when the takeover of KA is a done deal. Why start a flight to compete with its subsidiary?
Best reason I can think of for CX to maintain - and increase - its frequencies HKG-PVG and HKG-PEK would be the eventual likelihood (following the Olympics) of CAAC opening skies between HK and the Mainland, allowing CX fifth freedom rights ex-PEK and PVG, and CA, MU, and CZ fifth freedom rights ex HKG.
After all, we're all one big happy country now, and the Chinese government would see this as an extension of the preferential treatment it already gives HK businesses.
This would give CX two additional cities from which to serve European and especially North American pax, and the mainland airlines could use HKG as a hub.
Given the cross-ownership between CA, CX, and KA, my money is on this to start from PEK. Think of CX 312 landing in PEK at 2010, departing PEK for onward destination at 2130, catching businesspeople after a full work day. Return would put the plane into PEK at 0630, bringing said businesspeople in to start their work day in Beijing, then the aircraft would pick up the PEK pax and fly down to HKG.
I'm no scheduling expert, but if you tweaked times a bit you could probably make this work nicely and add a service that is more convenient for busines passengers than the current scheduling that kills at least half a work day in China in each direction.
Either way, that's the plan. Grab the slots now, push for fifth freedom later.
In China, everything is possible - but nothing is easy.
SQ452 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2287 times:
CX has also been trying to break into the mainland Chinese market for YEAAAAAARS. One has to keep in mind the parent company of CX (Swire) as another reason mainland China was restricted for CX to enter.
At present PVG makes the THIRD destination for CX in mainland China, NOT the second. Xiamen, and Beijing were the original two cities that the government allowed CX to fly to. CX has been wanting a slice of the action of the mainland market for a while now so this is a big big step for them to get PVG rights.