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Delta's Longest Nonstop: JFK-Mumbai?  
User currently offlineShortsquat From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 25 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8634 times:

With Delta inaugurating its new JFK to Mumbia, India flight tonight, would this become Delta's longest nonstop route?

Thanks!

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User currently offlineMEACEDAR From Lebanon, joined Oct 2006, 753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8636 times:

Maybe ATL-TLV is longer, no? I am not sure.

User currently offlineShortSquat From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 25 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8599 times:

I don't believe so, MEACEDAR, as TLV is in a region the 777 would overfly (Middle East). Still, that is one long flight!

User currently offlineThepilot From Canada, joined Jan 2010, 5 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8574 times:

JFK-BOM is much longer, according to gc.kls2.com

JFK-BOM-6777nm
ATL-TLV-5594nm



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User currently offlineKE086 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 107 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8548 times:

Wouldn't Delta From ATL to ICN be the Longest???


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User currently offlineMk777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 8517 times:

Quoting KE086 (Reply 4):
Wouldn't Delta From ATL to ICN be the Longest???


according to gc.kls2.com
ATL-ICN-6215nm
JFK-ICN-6001 nm



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User currently offlineManny From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 467 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 8447 times:

Quoting Shortsquat (Thread starter):
With Delta inaugurating its new JFK to Mumbia, India flight tonight, would this become Delta's longest nonstop route?

Mispelling: Its Mumbai & not Mumbia.


User currently offlineRwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3068 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 8404 times:

None of DL's other current or proposed flights even come close, with the exception of ATL-DXB.

User currently offlineB4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2611 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 8151 times:

I was tracking it last night, watching it's progress.

Funny, the new track flight lets you see the route and the plan overlayed from a Google Earth/Map picture.

The blue line yesterday on DL 16 deviated from the orange line (not sure if that means anything), but was cool to watch. Especially since I looked at it last night before I went to bed (10:00 PM) and when I woke up it was still going.

I wonder how often this route will have to stop en route for fuel situations, medical emergencies, etc. EWR-HKG is 12,900 km and JFK-BOM is 12,500 km on simarly equipped aircraft - so I am really curious how often it will get diverted.



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User currently offlineMEACEDAR From Lebanon, joined Oct 2006, 753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8063 times:

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 7):
None of DL's other current or proposed flights even come close, with the exception of ATL-DXB.

Wow!!! That is great that Delta is thinking about opening ATL-DXB, it is better than JFK-DXB because it would be hard to defeat EK, I think. Go DL!!


User currently offlineWalter747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1440 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8009 times:

ATL-JNB via DKR thats pretty far.


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User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7322 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 7992 times:

Quoting MEACEDAR (Reply 9):
Wow!!! That is great that Delta is thinking about opening ATL-DXB, it is better than JFK-DXB because it would be hard to defeat EK, I think. Go DL!!

No arguement there. Its the same point that people make when talking about UA at SFO vs. LAX. There is so much more competition at LAX with all the foreign carriers. Same is true for ATL and JFK. JFK-BOM is without question the longest route on DL. ATL-DXB is close but misses it by about 200 miles. ATL-ICN is about 750 miles shorter.



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User currently offlineRwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3068 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 7964 times:

Quoting MEACEDAR (Reply 9):
Wow!!! That is great that Delta is thinking about opening ATL-DXB, it is better than JFK-DXB because it would be hard to defeat EK, I think. Go DL!!

They aren't thinking about it - it's been announced, and will start early next summer.


User currently offlineB4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2611 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7891 times:

Quoting Walter747 (Reply 10):
ATL-JNB via DKR thats pretty far.

It is no farther than the now replaced JFK then ATL-CDG-BOM and JFK-CDG-MAA (no finished) routes.

Now.... We just need ATL-LAX-SYD and CVG-LAX-AKL on a 764.........



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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 3993 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7836 times:

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 11):
JFK-BOM is without question the longest route on DL. ATL-DXB is close but misses it by about 200 miles. ATL-ICN is about 750 miles shorter.

Big version: Width: 481 Height: 241 File size: 6kb
ATL-DXB=7600miles JFK-BOM=7800miles

ATL-PER, Australia would take the cake over and over again!
Big version: Width: 481 Height: 241 File size: 6kb
Atlanta-Perth: 9779 nautical miles!

But it is highly doubtful such a route will ever be flown for commercial passenger traffic.



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User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 7744 times:

Quoting Shortsquat (Thread starter):
With Delta inaugurating its new JFK to Mumbia, India flight tonight, would this become Delta's longest nonstop route?

Yes.

Quoting Walter747 (Reply 10):
ATL-JNB via DKR thats pretty far.

Answer here....:

Quoting Shortsquat (Thread starter):
Delta's Longest Nonstop: JFK-Mumbai?



The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 7683 times:

Quoting Manny (Reply 6):
Mispelling: Its Mumbai & not Mumbia.

I thought it was spelled it BOMBAY!


User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 3993 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 7683 times:

Quoting 474218 (Reply 16):
I thought it was spelled it BOMBAY!

Once upon a time it was that way. Kind of like Beijing was once known as Peking.



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User currently offlineManny From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 467 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 7548 times:

Quoting 474218 (Reply 16):
Quoting Manny (Reply 6):
Mispelling: Its Mumbai & not Mumbia.

I thought it was spelled it BOMBAY!

BOMBAY was the old name. The name was changed a few years ago to MUMBAI.


User currently offlineDetroitflyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 382 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 7532 times:

really wonder y new york and now atlanta have non stops to dubai?? Do these cities even have large arab populations. I know that detroit has the largest arab population in the country and yet no non-stops from dtw????


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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5108 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7487 times:

Quoting Manny (Reply 18):

BOMBAY was the old name. The name was changed a few years ago to MUMBAI.

And I am here following the post, in the back of my mind trying to picture where in India is Mumbai. So it is Bombay with a changed name. Where was I when this all happened. HEHE

That would be the longest in DL system right now I think.



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User currently offlineFlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 7453 times:

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 7):
None of DL's other current or proposed flights even come close, with the exception of ATL-DXB.



Quoting Walter747 (Reply 10):
ATL-JNB via DKR thats pretty far.

When DL's 772LR's come online, it is presumable that they will switch ATL-JNB over to a non-stop, since the 772LR has the range to run that without DKR. DL has talked a lot about asian expansion. I don't think an ATL-HKG is entirely unreasonable to expect in the next 5-8 years.

ATL-JNB: 7,334 nm
ATL-HKG: 7,298 nm



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User currently offlineHaggis79 From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 1096 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 7431 times:

Quoting B4real (Reply 8):
Funny, the new track flight lets you see the route and the plan overlayed from a Google Earth/Map picture.

out of curiousity: which flight tracker would that be?



300 310 319/20/21 332/3 343 AT4/7 143 B19 732/3/4/5/G/8/9 742/4 752/3 763/4 77E/W CR2/7/9 D95 E45/70 F50 F70 100 M11 M90
User currently offlineNickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1483 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 7310 times:

the one at delta.com

User currently offlineDAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 46
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6973 times:

Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 21):
When DL's 772LR's come online, it is presumable that they will switch ATL-JNB over to a non-stop, since the 772LR has the range to run that without DKR.

Long-term, yes, but I believe once DL get's their first 2 77Ls, they will use them to add another new destination from ATL, most likely HKG, and then convert either ATL-JNB or JFK-BOM to a 77L, depending on which route would offer the more promising yields and cargo loads.


25 N1120A : Except of course that the 764 would splash down somewhere between RAR and AKL.
26 Schipholjfk : India has been changing a lot of their city names to reflect what these cities were locally known in the past prior to the era of colonialism. Bombay
27 Post contains images Vivekman2006 : It indeed is one hell of a long flight. Imagine the condition of the passengers especially in "Y" when they arrive at their destinations! I am sure th
28 SLCUT2777 : Something China also did a few years ago (The early 1980s I believe).
29 United787 : Is Delta the only airline with a flight tracking map? That is cool since FlightAware.com doesn't track flights beyond North America!
30 Post contains images Gr8Circle : Just for the records, it happened way back in 1997 or '98.....and it's not just a different spelling, it's a different name altogether....Bombay was
31 FLLspoter : what about atl-nrt that has to bee over 7000 NM
32 Post contains links LAXdude1023 : Nope, its 5953 nm. http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=a...STYLE=best&RANGE-COLOR=&MAP-STYLE=
33 Post contains links Manny : It happened in 1995 per Wikipedia. Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumbai
34 B4real : The 764 is fully capable of HNL-SYD or HNL-AKL.
35 LAXdude1023 : I know I harp on it all the time, but DL should totally start service from HNL-SYD or AKL. From HNL they can use the 767 variety and have good conect
36 B4real : AH! It's my own fault!!!! I meant ATL-HNL-SYD and CVG-HNL-AKL. Sorry all!!!!
37 Gigneil : I sincerely doubt it. The DKR stop should prove valuable on its own. Not fully. Capable, maybe, but not without some serious restriction. NS
38 B4real : Are you sure? Not to ding you - as you are one of the best here. I (actually) checked the performance of the 764 on this website and it has the range
39 Skibum9 : I was paying attention to DLs flight tracker for DL16 and it appears that they flew over Iran and Iraq. I would have thought the a US flag carrier wou
40 Post contains links NRTfan : William Safire did a pretty entertaining column about this in the Times magazine in August. Link here (Requires free NYT registration. Or you can goo
41 B4real : I was watching the flight plan and it said that, but the flight tracker showed it just North of Iraq but over Iran.
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