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Tower Error Blamed In Brazil Plane Crash

Egghead From United States of America, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 48 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2915 times:

Yahoo news is quoting Folha de S. Paulo news paper:

Tower error blamed in Brazil plane crash

Complete story at:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061102/..._on_re_la_am_ca/brazil_plane_crash

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Macc From Austria, joined Nov 2004, 970 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2863 times:

lets wait for more. this still would not explain the switched off responder, therefore no TCAS actions...

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Art From Lebanon, joined Feb 2005, 2937 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2548 times:

But it would seem from the report that an ATC error put the aircraft in danger:

"According to Folha, the flight recorder shows American pilot Joseph Lepore receiving instructions from the tower in Sao Jose dos Campos to fly northwest at 37,000 feet "until Eduardo Gomes," the airport in Manaus. That altitude contradicted the pilots' filed flight plan and as an odd-numbered altitude should be reserved for southbound flights."

N328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6222 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2548 times:

Quoting Macc (Reply 1):
lets wait for more. this still would not explain the switched off responder, therefore no TCAS actions...

The Legacy pilots may have been errant in that, but:

If the Legacy was where the tower thought it was
The 737-800 was where the tower thought it was
The Legacy followed the tower's instructions
The 737-800 followed the tower's instructions

Then the fault has to be with the tower. What if the plane didn't have TCAS? This accident would have happened anyhow.

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ThrottleHold From South Africa, joined Jul 2006, 622 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2499 times:

Quoting N328KF (Reply 3):
What if the plane didn't have TCAS? This accident would have happened anyhow.

No it wouldn't have. This is a classic example of the purpose of TCAS.

N328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6222 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2433 times:

Quoting ThrottleHold (Reply 4):
No it wouldn't have. This is a classic example of the purpose of TCAS.

What? I don't think you read what I said.

My assertion was that if the planes involved lacked collision avoidance (and many do), then there still probably would have been an accident under these circumstances.

When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'Present' or 'Not guilty.' T.Roosevelt

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