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Southwest To Add DTW/DEN-MCO  
User currently offlineFlyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1986 posts, RR: 12
Posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5286 times:

Service starts the 20th of December. Doesn't list the flight times yet.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/061102/dath055.html?.v=28

Puts 4 airlines on DTW-DEN.

[Edited 2006-11-02 20:47:06]

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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24631 posts, RR: 86
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5261 times:
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Quoting Flyinryan99 (Thread starter):
Puts 4 airlines on DTW-DEN.

Um - I didn't read it as new DTW-DEN service:

"new nonstop service between Detroit Metro and Orlando and an additional nonstop between Denver and Orlando."

I read it as new DTW-MCO service and an additional non-stop (as in frequency) DEN-MCO, which they already fly.

I could be wrong.

mariner



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User currently offlineFlyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1986 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5214 times:

Holy cow...I totally read it wrong...My mind told me otherwise. Need to lay off the Kool aid I guess.

It says "or" in there...gosh. I'm slipping. I'm sorry..  

Edited the title of post.

[Edited 2006-11-02 20:47:43]

User currently offlineJohnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2562 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5192 times:

LOL, don't feel bad....my mind told me the same thing when I looked at the title of the PR release in my e-mail subject line too!

User currently offlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3019 posts, RR: 29
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5173 times:

Quoting Flyinryan99 (Reply 2):

You got me confused with that too. But I read the news release so that cleared things up.  wink  The press realease doesnt state how many ns they will have between DTW-MCO, 1X daily?


User currently offlineFlyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1986 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5129 times:

Quoting Mexicana757 (Reply 4):
You got me confused with that too. But I read the news release so that cleared things up. The press realease doesnt state how many ns they will have between DTW-MCO, 1X daily?

Sorry D!

I would assume so. There's already 12x daily flights between the two cities on 3 carriers.


User currently offlineOOer From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1439 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4947 times:

Yes, the flight will route DEN-DTW-MCO and vice versa...

User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24631 posts, RR: 86
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4943 times:
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Quoting OOer (Reply 6):
Yes, the flight will route DEN-DTW-MCO and vice versa...

Where does it say that? It says DTW-MCO and an additional frequency DEN-MCO.

I don't see DEN-DTW mentioned anywhere.

???

mariner



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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4312 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4904 times:
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DTW-MCO:

1317 7:30am 10:05am N/S

MCO-DTW:

1020 7:05pm 9:55pm N/S

DEN-MCO:
253 9:20am 2:35pm N/S
1753 1:15pm 6:35pm N/S*

MCO-DEN:

1966 10:35am 12:45pm N/S*
826 3:15pm 5:25pm N/S

* New flight

[Edited 2006-11-03 00:33:07]

User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5223 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4807 times:

It's one new a/c operating (daily/RON DTW) as follows:
DTW-MCO 07:30-10:05
MCO-DEN 10:35-12:45
DEN-MCO 13:15-18:35
MCO-DTW 19:05-21:55

bb


User currently offlineCentPIT From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 990 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4781 times:

Does anyone think WN is going after NW a little? NW appears to be very weak at the moment!

Good luck to WN on the new routes!



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User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5223 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4735 times:

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 10):
Does anyone think WN is going after NW a little? NW appears to be very weak at the moment!

Good point CentPIT, WN just started DTW-BWI a month and a half ago. With 4 gates at Metro and 20 daily flights, WN could more than double their schedule real quickly if they smell the blood...

Needless to say, with service to only 5 cities currently (BWI, MDW, BNA, PHX and STL) + upcoming MCO, there's lots that WN could do from Detroit. I could easily see LAS, DEN, PHL, HOU (all top-growth stations for WN) and maybe PVD, OAK and FLL...

And who knows, maybe MSP is rapidly moving up the "Where-2-Next" list in DAL!

bb


User currently offlineCentPIT From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 990 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4713 times:

Quoting SANFan (Reply 11):
Needless to say, with service to only 5 cities currently (BWI, MDW, BNA, PHX and STL) + upcoming MCO, there's lots that WN could do from Detroit. I could easily see LAS, DEN, PHL, HOU (all top-growth stations for WN) and maybe PVD, OAK and FLL...

And who knows, maybe MSP is rapidly moving up the "Where-2-Next" list in DAL!

I agree! I think DTW-Flordia is Def. a market WN is going to be expanding.

DTW-TPA
DTW-FLL
DTW-RSW



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User currently offlineOOer From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1439 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4558 times:

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 10):
Does anyone think WN is going after NW a little? NW appears to be very weak at the moment!

Actually from what I heard today one of the biggest reason for MCO-DTW is because we saw that Spirit is making lots of money on that route...


User currently offlineOOer From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1439 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4555 times:

Quoting Mariner (Reply 7):
Where does it say that? It says DTW-MCO and an additional frequency DEN-MCO.

I don't see DEN-DTW mentioned anywhere.

???

mariner

Thats what I was told today at lunch with the MCO station manager...


User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24631 posts, RR: 86
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4544 times:
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Quoting OOer (Reply 14):
Thats what I was told today at lunch with the MCO station manager...

Well, okay, but it isn't what the article says, and DEN-DTW does not appear, as a non-stop, on the Southwest route map..

DTW-MCO is there as a non-stop.

???

mariner



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4544 times:

Quoting OOer (Reply 13):
Actually from what I heard today one of the biggest reason for MCO-DTW is because we saw that Spirit is making lots of money on that route...

We? Do you keep switching back and forth between OO and WN, because last week you said "we" in regards to Skywest.



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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7343 posts, RR: 28
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4435 times:

WN is adding DTW service to compete with AirTran (BWI and now MCO), not necessarily NW. NW isn't as weak as everyone makes them out to be.

Adding a single daily flight on DTW-MCO should be easy to fill, but yields are already extremly low.

WN is looking to battle AirTran and Spirit, this isn't a strike against NW.


User currently offlineDtw9 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1135 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4425 times:

Anybody else notice that Airtran has pulled out of DTW-BWI

User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4380 times:

Airtran recently added several new nonstops from DTW-Florida.

User currently offlineOOer From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1439 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4271 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
We? Do you keep switching back and forth between OO and WN, because last week you said "we" in regards to Skywest.

MAybe 5-6 months ago...not last week....please quote me...


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7343 posts, RR: 28
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4155 times:

Whoa, I didn't realize that AirTran pulled out of DTW-BWI, that sure didn't take long. As soon as WN announced service, someone had to blink. There was no way the route could support double the existing frequencies with AirTran & WN adding service. This goes to show that WN is attempting to defend their turf.

User currently offlineCentPIT From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 990 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3986 times:

Quoting OOer (Reply 13):
Actually from what I heard today one of the biggest reason for MCO-DTW is because we saw that Spirit is making lots of money on that route...

Hahaha, well, either way good old WN is going after someone! I don't blame them a bit. Good luck WN! (I am waiting for more service from PIT)!



Pittsburgh International: US Airways---160 daily departures! (52 destinations)
User currently offlineLuketenley From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3905 times:

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 22):
Hahaha, well, either way good old WN is going after someone! I don't blame them a bit. Good luck WN! (I am waiting for more service from PIT)!

We all are!!! Not sure when this will happen. No talks as of now.



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