Delta Fly Boy From Japan, joined Oct 2000, 242 posts, RR: 1 Posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1531 times:
OK... if ANYONE can help me...
I have been driving myself crazy trying to figure out how to tell the difference between the 767-300 and the 767-300ER by the exterior, (especially on Delta). Is there any feature or features that distinguish these two aircraft?? If anyone can help.. : )
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1371 times:
As far as I know, from the exterior, the only clue is the registration number and then checking a fleet list. Being that DL was PW and GE powers 300s and 300ERs, that also does not help. The only planes that are obviously ERs are the several acquired from GulF Air a few years ago, they have a mid-cabin door.
Modesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2832 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1347 times:
There are no external differences between these two aircraft. Aircraft painted in the old old livery say "Boeing 767" in the rear of the aircraft but it does not specify which variant (-300 or -300ER).
Boeing727 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 956 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1342 times:
I remember this question came up before and I say what I have said before; the only way I usually distinguish between an -ER and a non-ER is by the acronym ETOPS on the nose-gear doors. Here are some examples...
136DL is a B767-332 (non-ER), still in old colors ...
DFW-JETS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1319 times:
I think there is a way to tell the difference between a DL 767-332 and a 767-332ER. This is what i have noticed about 2 planes.
On the 767-332s the forward cargo door is the regular smaller size, on the 767-332ER the forward cargo door is the larger wider door so it can fit the large cargo pallets and freight flats that are used on Intl flights. Most of this heavy cargo is loaded up front and needs the bigger door. This is how I can tell them apart, now im not 100% sure this applies to all DL 767-332s, but a DL mechanic told my this, and Ive seen it at various airports as well. All of AA 767-323s have the bigger forward doors.
Delta fly boy From Japan, joined Oct 2000, 242 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1289 times:
Well, thanx guys for all your help...
About the foward cargo door being bigger, that's a great help, also the one about ETOPS written on the nose gear door. BUT, I was looking at pics of the two aircrafts, 767-332 and 332ER, and I noticed a diferent window pattern... I was wondering if this was distinct between the ER and non ER planes. But it seems that one one, there is a bigger gap where there are no windows right infront of the wing. just a thought...
Tarantine From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 210 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1239 times:
If you can see the difference, here it is, all of delta's 767-300's have GE CF6-80's and the 300ER's have only PW4060 engines (or it was in my last edition of JP worlds fleets that I have). I can see the difference, but it is not easy unless they are close. So this probably will be help to no one. Last note, some ER's with the old paint schemes have a US flag on the top of the fin, but it is not on the several new paint schemes that delta has now.
Exusair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 684 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1220 times:
As just mentioned a U.S. flag on the top of the vertical stabilizer on an a/c with the old paint is a dead giveaway between a -300er and a 300. Also, there is a large round antenna on the top of the a/c 2/3 of the way back on an ER. There is also a missing series of windows on both sides of the aircraft just forward of the window exits. The former Gulf Air and Asiana aircraft that DL acquired have 6 doors and 2 overwing exits as oppposed to the 4 doors and 4 window exits on the rest of the fleet. These a/c are ER's. Also, all of the subsequent 767-300 deliveries for DL will be ER's in either domestic or Int'l configuration.