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A320 Nouvelair Incident In GVA (pics)  
User currently offlineAlphafloor From Chile, joined Jun 2004, 1277 posts, RR: 40
Posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 38260 times:

Hi, I was with some fellow spotters this afternoon. There was nothing special. When suddenly a fellow spotter noticed a fuel leak coming out from the right wing of Nouvelair A320 TS-INB that was taxiing to take-off. The aircraft made a 180° and stopped just in front of us. The pilot shutted down the engines and soon the firefighters came and spreaded foam over the fuel. The passengers were deplaned. Here are some pictures I've taken during the incident.

http://www.alphafloor.net/aviation/images/A320-nouvelair-ts-inb_1.jpg

http://www.alphafloor.net/aviation/images/A320-nouvelair-ts-inb_2.jpg

http://www.alphafloor.net/aviation/images/A320-nouvelair-ts-inb_3.jpg

http://www.alphafloor.net/aviation/images/A320-nouvelair-ts-inb_4.jpg

http://www.alphafloor.net/aviation/images/A320-nouvelair-ts-inb_5.jpg

http://www.alphafloor.net/aviation/images/A320-nouvelair-ts-inb_6.jpg

http://www.alphafloor.net/aviation/images/A320-nouvelair-ts-inb_7.jpg

http://www.alphafloor.net/aviation/images/A320-nouvelair-ts-inb_8.jpg

http://www.alphafloor.net/aviation/images/A320-nouvelair-ts-inb_9.jpg

http://www.alphafloor.net/aviation/images/A320-nouvelair-ts-inb_10.jpg

http://www.alphafloor.net/aviation/images/A320-nouvelair-ts-inb_11.jpg

http://www.alphafloor.net/aviation/images/A320-nouvelair-ts-inb_12.jpg
There was even an ambulance to take a guy (maybe shocked?)

http://www.alphafloor.net/aviation/images/A320-nouvelair-ts-inb_13.jpg

This is the second Nouvelair incident I saw in less than a month here in GVA!!


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Photo © Alejandro Pérez




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User currently offlineA3 From Greece, joined Oct 2006, 262 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 38256 times:

One word !!!

E X C E L L E N T !!!



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User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 38245 times:

Very impressive pictues -excellent quality !
Thanks for sharing -any known reason for the leak?



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User currently offlineAlphafloor From Chile, joined Jun 2004, 1277 posts, RR: 40
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 38226 times:

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 2):
Thanks for sharing -any known reason for the leak?

I don't have any info right now. It happened two hours ago.



Whatever
User currently offlineOsiris30 From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3192 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 38222 times:

 bigthumbsup  Great pics!


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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8524 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 38224 times:
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Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 2):
Very impressive pictues -excellent quality !
Thanks for sharing

- I second that!



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User currently offlineRammstein From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 37995 times:

Compliments for the pics! Excellent work!

User currently offlineDIJKKIJK From France, joined Jul 2003, 1791 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 37877 times:

Nice pics, alphafloor. Thanks for sharing

I'm not an expert on A320, but could the fuel be leaking out of the fuel jettison thing? If I'm correct, it is located at approximately the place where the fuel is leaking from.

could some expert comment?



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User currently offlineBOAC707 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 278 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 37854 times:

And how come the fuel stopped flowing while the fire dudes were there?


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User currently offlineAlphafloor From Chile, joined Jun 2004, 1277 posts, RR: 40
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 37779 times:

Quoting DIJKKIJK (Reply 7):
I'm not an expert on A320, but could the fuel be leaking out of the fuel jettison thing?

I think the A320 do not has a jettison.

Quoting BOAC707 (Reply 8):
And how come the fuel stopped flowing while the fire dudes were there?

I'm not sure about it. The fact is that the wing was leaking at least during 5mn.



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User currently offlineBoeing Nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 37742 times:

Not to take anything away from the pictures, they are excellent. But IMO, the rescue crews took unnecessary measures dealing with the fuel. Maybe things are done differently in other parts of the world, but when I saw the first pic of the ARFF crews dousing the fuel with foam, my first reaction was, "why the hell are they doing that?" Many of you know that jet fuel in this type of state is rather stable, so IMO, this was an unnecessary action. Not to mention the fact that they probably freaked the hell out of some of the passengers.

Quoting Alphafloor (Reply 9):
I'm not an expert on A320, but could the fuel be leaking out of the fuel jettison thing?

I think the A320 do not has a jettison.

Most narrow bodies don't have jettison capabilities. Usually, fuel leaking from this location is coming from an overflow valve. Fuel will come out of these valves when it's either faulty (obviously) or in an overflow situation. I've seen this numerous times during fueling operations where there has been a capacity miscalculation or the wrong switched was turned on/off..


User currently offlineBmiBaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1803 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 37687 times:

Quoting BOAC707 (Reply 8):
And how come the fuel stopped flowing while the fire dudes were there?

Im no techno freak, but would it be because the Pilot turned off the engines and most likely stopped the fuel from going to that part of the aircraft?

Bmi


User currently offlineAlphafloor From Chile, joined Jun 2004, 1277 posts, RR: 40
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 37693 times:

Quoting Boeing Nut (Reply 10):
But IMO, the rescue crews took unnecessary measures dealing with the fuel. Maybe things are done differently in other parts of the world, but when I saw the first pic of the ARFF crews dousing the fuel with foam, my first reaction was, "why the hell are they doing that?" Many of you know that jet fuel in this type of state is rather stable, so IMO, this was an unnecessary action. Not to mention the fact that they probably freaked the hell out of some of the passengers.

I cannot agree more with you. That was also our opinion while watching the scene. Plus it was 8°C !

Quoting Boeing Nut (Reply 10):
I've seen this numerous times during fueling operations where there has been a capacity miscalculation or the wrong switched was turned on/off..

I understand. But why this happened during taxi and not before ?



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User currently offlineAlphafloor From Chile, joined Jun 2004, 1277 posts, RR: 40
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 37669 times:

btw, I can imagine the mess the foam would have done to the engine !...


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User currently offlineBoeing Nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 37588 times:

Quoting Alphafloor (Reply 12):
I've seen this numerous times during fueling operations where there has been a capacity miscalculation or the wrong switched was turned on/off..

I understand. But why this happened during taxi and not before ?

Maybe a fuel transfer didn't go according to plan?


User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 40
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 37382 times:

Truely amazing pictures.
When you called me I would have never iamgined it was like that

Quoting Alphafloor (Thread starter):
This is the second Nouvelair incident I saw in less than a month here in GVA!!

I bet they'll end up being banned !



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User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 40
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 37366 times:

Quoting Alphafloor (Reply 12):
I cannot agree more with you. That was also our opinion while watching the scene. Plus it was 8°C !

they may still have in head the fuel trail that bruce willis burned in die hard two after he opened the fuel inlet !
 biggrin 



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User currently offlineBA777 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2175 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 37366 times:

Thats what I thought RootsAir (how are you BTW?)

My pics show the same things, I'm the one that spotted it leaking originally.

Henry


User currently offlineTumbledgyro From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 36930 times:

Great pictures! My guess for the leak is a fuel transfer mix up or a stuck vent valve. I would think the crew transfered fuel to the left wing or possibly a fuselage tank, stopping the leak. I agree, the firefighters might have gone a little overboard, but there's nothing wrong to err on the side of safety. Plus, those guys don't get to play with the foam all to often. Let them have their fun. I'm sure a good announcement to the pax from the crew would calm most, if not all, fears.  spin 

User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 40
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 36747 times:

Quoting BA777 (Reply 17):
Thats what I thought RootsAir (how are you BTW?)

My pics show the same things, I'm the one that spotted it leaking originally.

Henry

Hi Henry,

Alejandro told me you were the first one to notice!
I'm doing fine thanks. hope you arrived home well. Sorry if I couldn't make it. I had quite a lot to study and I wanted to get abit ahead given that I'm in BCN meet next week.
Have you already uploaded your pics into the database?
Take care
BM



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User currently offlineKanokwan From Italy, joined Oct 2006, 3 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 36711 times:

very beautiful photo

compliments


User currently offlineFlylku From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 804 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 36717 times:

Is it me or did they get foam in the engine? If so that was a very expensive over reaction! Foam yes but - and I could be wrong - I can't imagine the protocol is to foam the engine. I'd hate to have to pay the bill to clean that up.

Of course had the situation gone south and they'd exercised restraint, the airmchaire fireman, like us, would have been all over them for holding back.



...are we there yet?
User currently offlineCPHGuard From Denmark, joined Jun 2006, 278 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 36496 times:

Quoting Flylku (Reply 21):
I'd hate to have to pay the bill to clean that up.

I don't think the engine will be damaged. The foam consists of 99.9 % water, and Jet-engines can withstand quite some things.

I once saw a catering truck losing a hydraulic line, spraying approx. 50 liters into an A340 engine. After consulting the engine manufacter, they started up the engine, and it was running fine.

I think the Fire-brigade did the right thing. No need to take the chance, even though it's one in a million.

Cheers
Thomas


User currently offlineSwissy From Switzerland, joined Jan 2005, 1734 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 36322 times:

Great pics!! lucky you....

Good job from the fire department, any idea how hot that engine was?? sure
jet fuel is more or less stable, however vapours occur...... a spark or hot heat source and sh.. will fly.

Cheers,


User currently offlineDeC From Greece, joined Aug 2005, 616 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 35939 times:

EXCELLENT! Thank you so much for sharing your beautiful photos from such a rarely seen incident!


DEC
25 Piercey : It's an optional feature, IIRC. Great pics. Is the plane still @ GVA and if so where?
26 N754PR : Thats what you call in on the action.. great pics.
27 Alphafloor : Thanks for the compliments, but honestly it was an easy task as the aircraft stopped right in front of us. The plane is still in GVA, I'll call tomor
28 HighFlyer9790 : great pics! why would a guy need to go to hospital though?
29 Alphafloor : btw, some extra pictures of the firefighters are available on my own website They are on the bottom of the page.
30 Post contains images Lostmoon744 : Vacan! Nice shots. La cago. Good photographs.
31 Motopolitico : Holy Schnikes! Thar she blows! Like an upside-down geyser of kerosene! I watched a UPS MD-11's #3 engine do some sort of a mini-surge or stall when th
32 Post contains images BMIFlyer : Woah Thankfully it was noticed before the bird took off. A job well done, and great pics too Lee
33 CO7e7 : WOW... That's what i call being the right place at the right time! Thanks for sharing the pics. -Zaki
34 Piercey : I know, but the quality was very nice and you were at the right place at the right time and took some shots. Both deserve a compliment. Older guy wit
35 SpeedBird203 : Really nice photos, This is gonna sound crazy but when i first saw the first one it looks like an high quality aircraft from Flight Simualtor, Must go
36 Semsem : Wan't it also Nouvelair who had an ATR crah into the sea because they had no fuel?
37 Goldorak : No, it was Tuninter (fron Tunisia)
38 Geo772 : After the refuelling incident in Denver a few years ago where a refueller lost his life taking precautions like this when fuel could get near a hot e
39 LY777 : thanks for sharing. By the way, 2 incidents in one month in the same place:that's a lot.I'll try to avoid Nouvelair
40 LHR777 : It looks like fuel venting from an overflow valve to me. We see it on our 747's from time to time. Happens when the outer wing tanks are overfilled, o
41 Post contains images Silver1SWA : I assume this comes from the fact you saw "jaggies" in the photos as your browser probably automatically resized them? Click on the images above to o
42 Post contains images Nonfirm : Great photos.Thanks
43 Post contains images B747SP : Good job, Alejandro. Thanks for sharing!
44 Post contains images Myt332 : Sweet photos. Right place, right time. You should sell them to the media claiming an A320 nearly blew up at GVA. You could make a mint.
45 LHR777 : Yes, and definitely include words like "exploded", "crashed", "lethal" and "lawsuit"....
46 Starlionblue : Nope, not optional. Simply not available. Even widebodies can land at maximum weight, even though it is safer to dump. The reason widebodies have fue
47 Post contains images ZBA320 : Excellent Pics!! Cheers for sharing.
48 Hamster : 2 questions How will the airline and the authorities deal with this situation moving foward ie leaking plane, messed up engine and floam all over the
49 CPHGuard : As i stated in a previous post, the engine is most likely NOT messed up. The foam on the tarmac is simply removed with water. The firetrucks can spra
50 Post contains images AnMCOSon : Great pictures Alphafloor. EXACTLY!!! A family member of mine, (who's a maintenance controller for the A-319/20/21's for an airline), said it's a resu
51 Pilotaydin : Those of you who think the emergency services over reacted...wow...we need to sit down and have a talk about air safety... you can sit there and look
52 Jetset7E7 : Great pictures! Right place, right time! Mark
53 Alessandro : BA777 and Alphafloor, have you sent in the pics to a.net? Never seen anything like this before, amazing....
54 Alphafloor : I've uploaded one, see if it is accepted...
55 320tech : The fuel is leaking from either the NACA vent or the frangible disc. The NACA vent vents the overflow tank, and the frangible disc is designed to brea
56 RootsAir : today alejandro's pictures were all over the local newspapers !! congrats
57 Post contains links BA777 : Yeah congratulations Alej! I've uploaded 3 of my shots to A.net for now (time constraints really getting in the way) http://img484.imageshack.us/img48
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