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If WN Gets The 737ER  
User currently offlineWalter747 From United States, joined Oct 2006, 1438 posts, RR: 7
Posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1265 times:

If WN is the launch coustmer like people think for the 737ER or 737NG will they expand internatioanlly.

Personally i dont think they will because, who wants to fly across the atlantic in a 737. quite cramped.


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User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7029 posts, RR: 41
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1241 times:

Are you nuts (ta da!)? You mean start flying across the pond? They don't even fly to Toronto, Vancouver, The Peg to the north, or god knows how many dozen - hundreds, even - cities in Latin America they could reach with 1 or 2 hour flights from the US, just like their domestic operation, with their regular 737s - if they wanted to "go international" in a big way. They may fly more people than any other airline in the world, but not a single one ever gets a stamp in a passport. SWA's issue with international flying isn't a lack of range with their hardware.


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User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States, joined Mar 2004, 7430 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1238 times:

There's no reason to believe that WN will order the 737-700/ER.

Not only does WN have no intention of starting any international routes before 2009, the first they would be likely to open would not include trans-Atlantic destinations. WN could fly to many high-yielding international destinations with the 73G they have now, so why order a non-standard subfleet?

In terms of comfort, CO has been quite successful flying the 757 with the same cabin diameter as the 737.

User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States, joined Sep 2004, 12440 posts, RR: 54
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1208 times:

The only International service I see them doing anytime soon is maybe to Canada, Mexico, and a few other destinations.....


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User currently offlineWalter747 From United States, joined Oct 2006, 1438 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1198 times:

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 1):
Are you nuts (ta da!)? You mean start flying across the pond? They don't even fly to Toronto, Vancouver, The Peg to the north, or god knows how many dozen - hundreds, even - cities in Latin America they could reach with 1 or 2 hour flights from the US, just like their domestic operation, with their regular 737s - if they wanted to "go international" in a big way. They may fly more people than any other airline in the world, but not a single one ever gets a stamp in a passport. SWA's issue with international flying isn't a lack of range with their hardware.

well it just got thinking because someone said that in the other thread and i was confused. on boeings website it says tge 73G could help LCC's fly across the pond. read the second paragraph


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User currently offlineVref5 From United States, joined Dec 2005, 195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1186 times:

Quoting Walter747 (Reply 4):
well it just got thinking because someone said that in the other thread and i was confused. on boeings website it says tge 73G could help LCC's fly across the pond. read the second paragraph

Sure, but it's probably more aimed towards LCCs such as Air Transat, a charter outfit, for instance.

User currently offlineWalter747 From United States, joined Oct 2006, 1438 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1099 times:

Quoting Vref5 (Reply 5):
Sure, but it's probably more aimed towards LCCs such as Air Transat, a charter outfit, for instance.

o i see


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User currently offlineChiGB1973 From United States, joined Mar 2004, 1456 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 987 times:

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 2):
WN could fly to many high-yielding international destinations

High-yielding international routes are becoming fewer, at least that WN would consider serving or even could serve if they stuck with the 737. CO, DL, US and NW are covering Europe with flights. I can see WN venturing further into Mexico via TZ, though these aren't necessarily high-yielding. Canada, I dunno, I have just never seen the competition or desire of lots of carriers going there. Plenty do, but it is rarely discussed as much as Mexico, Europe and Asia.

Much less in:

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 2):
international routes before 2009

By then, all the high-yielding routes will be taken. Of course, it being a little more than 2 years away, the legacies can thoroughly screw it up by then and maybe WN will still have limited opportunities.

I continue to stick by my guns in saying that WN will never venture across borders or the Pacific with their own metal. It will be TZ or some other similar situation. It can be argued until everyone is blue in the face, but that is my impression.

M

User currently offlineBoeingfever777 From United States, joined Oct 2004, 2026 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 939 times:

Quoting Walter747 (Thread starter):
Personally i dont think they will because, who wants to fly across the atlantic in a 737. quite cramped.

Where are all these 737ER rumors flying from?

International will not happen for 2-3yrs... Both Herb and Gary Kelly, have stated desire and wants for flying international but Kelly has stated numerous times that they DO NOT have the structure in place for this yet.


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User currently offlineChrisNH From United States, joined Jun 1999, 2693 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 905 times:

People talk about Southwest to Canada a fair bit. I'm one who thinks service from, say, Manchester to the Maritimes would be attractive. That might make MHT a nice little connecting point for people in Atlantic Canada who want access to the rest of the WN system.

But my question is whether the Canadian government would block such a move. Do we have an aviation agreement with Canada that would permit WN to start service at will?

Chris in NH

User currently offlineWalter747 From United States, joined Oct 2006, 1438 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 846 times:

Quoting Boeingfever777 (Reply 8):
Where are all these 737ER rumors flying from?

click the link in reply 4


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User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States, joined Mar 2004, 2049 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 734 times:
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Quoting Boeingfever777 (Reply 8):
Where are all these 737ER rumors flying from?



Quoting Walter747 (Reply 10):
click the link in reply 4

Actually, it started here...
http://www.airliners.net/discussions...eneral_aviation/read.main/3080044/

These rumors started from someone here on airliners.net that seems to enjoy getting everyone riled up about WN over nothing. They enjoy stirring up controversy, and then deleting their account only to create a new one and do it all over again a few days later. Please throw all serious consideration regarding this topic out the window. As far as I'm concerned, the poster that started this rumor has absolutely ZERO credibility. I believe y'all have been played.

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