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Santa Barbara Airlines Fleet Plans 2007  
User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 30
Posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6531 times:

I just read an article in the Tourism section of the Universal newspaper which featured an interview with S3's CEO.

He mentioned the following plans for the airline:

- Recent arrival of second 763ER to make MAD daily and FNC and TFN both weekly.

- A third 752ER is expected by February 2007.

- Three 733s will join the fleet on the 1Q of 2007.

- Retirement of both 727-200s.

- 6th ATR 42 just arrived to boost domestic network.

- Quito and Guayaquil are getting daily 757 service.

- Panama and Buenos Aires will start "very soon" with either 757 or 733.


Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis

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User currently offlineEmbajador3 From Spain, joined Aug 2006, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6414 times:

Great news for S3!!! At last some update for that airline! can't wait to see those aircraft in S3 colours!!!


Flying Together
User currently offlineUA868 From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6395 times:

That is great news, I hope they keep growing and one day become the Flagship Carrier of Venezuela. I am tired of VH and those MDs.!!

Gracias por esa informacion Luis!!

Regards


User currently offlineErikgnoha From Venezuela, joined Jun 2006, 214 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6361 times:

Hey Luis this was discussed a couple of weeks ago.

S3 New Announcements (by Erikgnoha Oct 23 2006 in Civil Aviation)

Good news indeed!



Venezuela, donde los suenos renacen
User currently offlineLamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6342 times:

From a personal point of view, let's see if they become ZED carrier one day and we can non-rev on them. That would be great.


I wish that all skies were orange and blue!!
User currently offlineCandid76 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 735 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6323 times:

Here in Manchester UK there is a Santa Barbara 767-300 (TFFIB of Icelandair) sitting outside my office window (with Santa Barbara titles and a nice logo with Venezuela on the tail).

Unfortunately this is not a new Manchester-Caracas service, as much as I would love to use it!


User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6308 times:
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Hola Luis,

do you know something about the plans of S3 to acquire 313 equipment from Air Plus Comet?



El dia que los gilipollas vuelen, no podremos ver la luz del sol!
User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6245 times:

Quoting Erikgnoha (Reply 3):
Hey Luis this was discussed a couple of weeks ago.

Sorry Erik, I missed that thread.

Quoting UA868 (Reply 2):
I hope they keep growing and one day become the Flagship Carrier of Venezuela. I am tired of VH and those MDs.!!

Indeed!

Quoting Embajador3 (Reply 1):
can't wait to see those aircraft in S3 colours!!!

Me neither!

Quoting Candid76 (Reply 5):
Here in Manchester UK there is a Santa Barbara 767-300 (TFFIB of Icelandair) sitting outside my office window (with Santa Barbara titles and a nice logo with Venezuela on the tail).

Hey Candid, do you think you can get a picture of TF-FIB? A mobile phone pic will work! I'm dying to see the 767s in S3 colors.

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 6):
do you know something about the plans of S3 to acquire 313 equipment from Air Plus Comet?

RAFVC10, S3 used to wetlease A313 from APC for some weeks when their DC10s were grounded and while they were searching for the 767s. I don't think they have plans to acquire that aircraft type.

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 40
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6242 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Thread starter):
- Panama and Buenos Aires will start "very soon" with either 757 or 733.

maybe now get some normal fares to PTY, checked yesterday and the cheapest option is for over 600 USD with AVIANCA,



Colombia es el Mundo Y el Mundo es Colombia
User currently offlineErikgnoha From Venezuela, joined Jun 2006, 214 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 6206 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 7):
Sorry Erik, I missed that thread.

No problem Luis, it happens.

Isn't this TF-FIB the wet-lease that S3 used some months ago along with TF-FIA? Because right now the wet-lease is with TF-LLA. Also, S3 wanted to get one of LAB airlines 767s that was stored in GIG but Mexicana got it first. Does anybody know why?



Venezuela, donde los suenos renacen
User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2005 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 6161 times:

All those announcements were already made on FITUR 2006 in January in Madrid. And most of them were anounced to take place in summer 2006......
Seeing is beleiving ! But I hope all this happens !


User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1880 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6073 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 7):
Hey Candid, do you think you can get a picture of TF-FIB?

On JP.net there is a picture of this aircraft (sorry no link here to JP.net..., but I think that you also find this picture).

The aircraft looks nice with the yellow engines and the S3 colors.

Quoting Luisde8cd (Thread starter):
- Retirement of both 727-200s.

They only operate one B727 at the moment (YV174T 21968/1565).


User currently offlineMarambio From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2004, 1160 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6054 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Thread starter):
- Panama and Buenos Aires will start "very soon" with either 757 or 733.

733 for CCS-EZE? I highly doubt it has enough range, but who knows...

Saludos,
Marambio



Aerolíneas Argentinas - La Argentina que levanta vuelo.
User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6018 times:

Any plans to add some S3 titles and logos to the red Primaris 757 or is that one going back to Primaris soon?

User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1880 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5985 times:

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 13):
red Primaris 757 or is that one going back to Primaris soon

I think it's just a short-time wet-leasing. But not sure.


User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 40
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5953 times:

Quoting Marambio (Reply 12):
733 for CCS-EZE? I highly doubt it has enough range, but who knows...

the flights are to long ... if we see a CCS-EZE flight of S3 than only using the 757



Colombia es el Mundo Y el Mundo es Colombia
User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5917 times:

yikes that is ugly IMO, not to mention boring

They put logos and titles on that ugly thing but don't do it to the Primaris 757 grrr..


User currently offlineErikgnoha From Venezuela, joined Jun 2006, 214 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5832 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 19):
Uh, CCS-EZE with a 733... devastating for all the PAX (if they survive :P)

With the 757, it would be far more reasonable!

That's true, but keep in mind that Copa runs a similar flight from PTY with a 73G, that even though is newer, is the same size.



Venezuela, donde los suenos renacen
User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5821 times:

They forgot to add a line on the lower fuselage, and left those engines yellow. That's why I think it looks so bad and plain..

I like the complete livery on the rest of the fleet, which is nothing special either, yet looks nice.

It's a good thing you like it, we just have diff. tastes thats all  Smile


User currently offlineLatinplane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2724 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5810 times:

Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 4):
From a personal point of view, let's see if they become ZED carrier one day and we can non-rev on them. That would be great.

Happy A-net "B" day LaMedianaraja. On this day you were born here on A.net. Exacty two years ago - you are so young.  Big grin

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Okay, the big question about the Caracas - Funchal route: Is there enough demand for the two carriers (TAP being the other). TAP will also be flying the route the same exact days, so the question will lie on which airline offers the most affordable fares between Vnza and the Islands.

Second question: Why is Santa Barbara still wet-leasing its 763s from Icelandair, and why can't SB get its own equipment. At first, it was said that it had something to do with the carrier not having ETOPS certification and that eventually SB would get its own equipment, but after more than a year since SB stopped flying its own DC-10s, this has yet to happen.


 Smile LatinPlane


User currently offlineLamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 20
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5697 times:

Quoting Latinplane (Reply 22):

Happy A-net "B" day LaMedianaraja. On this day you were born here on A.net. Exacty two years ago - you are so young.

Thx! Let's not think about that other b'day that's coming up! Only a few more and I'll have to change age groups...

Quoting 797 (Reply 16):
Incredible livery! Perhaps inside the TOP 5 for me on a 763!

The tail is gorgeous and the yellow engines are funny too but the fuselage is just plain white, that's nothing special IMHO. It would probably be too expensive to change it completely. Even the Primaris silver body lookes better with the blue tail.



I wish that all skies were orange and blue!!
User currently offlineMagyarorszag From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5669 times:

Quoting Candid76 (Reply 5):
Here in Manchester UK there is a Santa Barbara 767-300 (TFFIB of Icelandair) sitting outside my office window (with Santa Barbara titles and a nice logo with Venezuela on the tail).

Well, here's a nice picture of it!


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User currently offlineEmbajador3 From Spain, joined Aug 2006, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5628 times:

Awsome!!! however, it'd look even better if it had S3's full livery.


Flying Together
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9821 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5596 times:

Nice livery. It's not that striking but nice. CCS-EZE on a 733? It seems like pushing the limits of the aircraft but according to the airliners.net database the 733 high gross weight (HGW) version has a range of 6300 km with 140 passengers. If S3 can get there hands on these HGW 733s than CCS-EZE is do-able:

CCS-EZE: 5106 km.

Other than that a fleet of two B763ER's, two B752s, three 733s and six ATR42s sounds about right for an airline that size of S3. Good luck to S3, I sure hope to see them one day, unfortunately I don't see S3 flying to CUR as Aeropostal, Avior Airlines and Rutaca Airlines (charter flights) all fly to CUR already. Even so, S3 does fly to AUA.

And Lamedianaranja, how does a bull terrier spent her day? Haha, I just saw your profile with the dog sleeping and turning, that's a good one, priceless in my opinion!!! Big grin

A388


User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1894 posts, RR: 27
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5545 times:

Quoting Latinplane (Reply 22):
Why is Santa Barbara still wet-leasing its 763s from Icelandair, and why can't SB get its own equipmen

I think it has to do with the Luxury tax that is applied in Venezuela when you buy something really expensive. Actually, I do remember hearing about that some years ago...

Mr. Civilav would come great into this question!

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Saludos!



Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
25 Post contains links Lamedianaranja : One of them has her own profile: http://www.dogster.com/pet_page.php?j=t&i=386245
26 Post contains images A388 : " target=_blank>http://www.dogster.com/pet_page.php?...86245 Hahaha, cool website. I like the photo of the sleeping sunbathing dog Saludos, A388
27 Jfk777 : See their 757 at Miami all the time. SB has some flight at truly awful hours though. They have a Miami-CCS flight at 11:30pm arriving at 3:00AM in Car
28 Erikgnoha : I believe this was a delay because the normal flights departs during the morning and arrives CCS at 14:30. During high season a second flight is adde
29 Beech19 : There is no such thing as a 757-200ER.
30 797 : Hehe, well... they do call it like that on their site, and seems that they want to 'impress' people by adding the ER thing!
31 Civilav : Thank you for inviting me in ! Frankly, I do not know the reason why SB has not got its hands on its own 767s. After all, they are all second hand. W
32 797 : Thanks again Mr Civilav! Well, as you say, S3 might not be able to buy one of those 763s. Now, in the hypotetical case that they go ahead and buy it,
33 Viasa : This aircraft would now go to a new operator in Africa.
34 Erikgnoha : So, is S3 going to have only one 767-300? Or are they going to receive another one besides TF-FIB?
35 Post contains links Viasa : Untill today it was forbidden to say to which airline this aircraft would go. Now the first picture of the first GIA B767 you can see at Skyliner Avi
36 Erikgnoha : Thanks man. So, S3 is back to one 767 again?
37 TACAA320 : It is ! He always find something wrong about liveries.
38 Luisde8cd : It's impossible to fly daily to MAD plus 1 weekly to both FNC and TFN with a single 763... I wonder where is the other 767.... Saludos desde Caracas,
39 Erikgnoha : Exactly, that's my question. Although, right now they are flying 4x weekly to MAD and 1 weekly to TFN. In December they will upgrade the MAD service
40 Chiguire : Don't forget that FNC and TFS would also work with the 757...."ER" or not.
41 Chiguire : Should be TFN, not TFS...sorry.
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