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JFK VS EWR. Which Airport Is Busier?  
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 8105 times:

JFK VS EWR. Which airport is busier? I mean in terms of the number of passengers/flights.

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User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 8091 times:

Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
JFK VS EWR. Which airport is busier? I mean in terms of the number of passengers/flights.

If you tried Google, you'd get this answer....

http://www.panynj.gov/aviation/traffic/coverfram.HTM


User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4085 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 8077 times:

JFK has fewer flights but bigger planes than Newark. I thought the two would cancel out and they'd be nearly equal. But JFK wins by a fair bit, to my surprise. I guess EWR gets a lot of 'lawn darts' while JFK gets the A340s, the 747s, etc. EWR gets those, too, but not enough to make it close.

Chris in NH


User currently offlineAF454GRU From France, joined Aug 2006, 40 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 8051 times:

IMO JFK is the busiest as it handles more airlines than EWR.
Most of int'l carriers send their birds of JFK rather than Newark or even IAD USA's capital airport...
JFK is along with LHR, CDG and FRA one of these places where carriers must
to fly to...

Cheers,

Hugo


User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2422 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 7881 times:

Quoting AF454GRU (Reply 3):
IMO JFK is the busiest as it handles more airlines than EWR

It's not a matter of opinion. Both are "busier" than the other. JFK has more revenue passengers, EWR has more aircraft movements.

Here's the numbers:
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Y/E 2005 total revenue passengers:
JFK: 40,884,350
EWR: 33,037,756

YTD 2006 (through Aug-06) total revenue passengers:
JFK: 28,382,177
EWR: 24,292,581
--
Y/E 2005 total flights, including general aviation:
JFK: 349,519
EWR: 435,874

YTD 2006 (through Aug-06) total flights, including general aviation:
JFK: 239,082
EWR: 297,469
--



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User currently offlineEWRandMDW From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 410 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7765 times:

Tjwgrr pointed out some statistics comparing the 2 airports. Another taken from the PANYNJ website is the 12 months ending August 2006:

JFK: 41 22/100 million passengers and 355,528 aircraft movements
EWR: 35 37/100 million passengers and 443,180 aircraft movements.

Comparing to the 2005 12-month totals this suggests the difference in passengers between the 2 airports is shrinking from about 8 million to 6 million, while the difference in total flights is rather static.


User currently offlineVTNYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 277 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7720 times:

Quoting EWRandMDW (Reply 5):
difference in passengers between the 2 airports is shrinking from about 8 million to 6 million

It was not too long ago that EWR led all the New York City airports in both passengers and movements but JetBlue at JFK made all the difference.

VT-NYC



First Flight, PA001 DEL-FRA-LHR-JFK; Dream- JFK-COK on a B6 787
User currently offlinePtugarin From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7418 times:

Quoting VTNYC (Reply 6):
JetBlue at JFK made all the difference.

How does jetBlue's contribution to JFK movements and passenger traffic compare to that of TWA?


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7296 times:

So EWR was no 1 before. When was that?

User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5397 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7278 times:

Out of approx. 3900 JFK arrivals in the last 7 days, 938 were Jetblue....so around 24%!

EWR had around 4400 arrivals in the same period.

Matches fairly well with other stats posted above (remember to double my numbers for total movements).


Jimbo



I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was in the air, than in the air wishing I was on the ground!
User currently offlineCessna057 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 439 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7267 times:

In terms of buisiness, EWR because of their runway situation and gate problems. In terms of customers, JFK is the bigger.


Hold it . . . Hold it . . . HOLD THE FREAKIN NOSE UP!!
User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7096 times:

They are both insanely busy during peak hours...Throw in a summer thunderstorm or a winter snowstorm and things get hairy.

User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5397 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7086 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 11):
They are both insanely busy during peak hours...

Yeah, although LGA is the busiest NYC airport in terms of flights.

There are plenty busier airports than the NY airports. None of them are even in the top ten for the USA, in terms of movements.


Jimbo



I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was in the air, than in the air wishing I was on the ground!
User currently offlineVTNYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 277 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6999 times:

Quoting United Airline (Reply 8):
So EWR was no 1 before. When was that?

for 2000
JFK 32 856 220
EWR 34 188 468
Jetblue was born 2/10/2000

2001 JFK inched closer but traffic fell, I guess due to 9/11
JFK 29,349,000
EWR 30,558,000
Jetblue has flown more than 1 million passenger on it's first anniv.

and in 2002 JFK went ahead
JFK 29 943 084
EWR 29 202 654
Jetblue has flown it's 5 millionth passenger on second anniv.

the lead widened in 2003
JFK 31 732 371
EWR 29 431 061
Jetblue has carried more than 10 million passengers.

2004
JFK 37 518 143
EWR 31 947 266
Jetblue fleet strength at 57 A320s

2005
JFK 41 885 104
EWR 33 999 990
JetBlue Turns Five; Fastest Airline to Reach 'Major' Status,
Welcomes 71st Aircraft



First Flight, PA001 DEL-FRA-LHR-JFK; Dream- JFK-COK on a B6 787
User currently offlineEADC8 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6868 times:

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 12):
Yeah, although LGA is the busiest NYC airport in terms of flights.

No it's not. Click on the link in the first reply and check the stats. YTD as of August 06, LGA was second with about 31,000 fewer movements than EWR.

Edit: Unless of course you mean only New York City itself. LGA is busier, in terms of flights, than JFK. But, if you mean all three NYC airports, LGA is number 2.

[Edited 2006-11-09 02:19:23]


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User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5397 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 6822 times:

Quoting EADC8 (Reply 14):
No it's not. Click on the link in the first reply and check the stats.

Well, depends on the dates, and I failed to explain mine.

this month to date, LGA has more movements ...not much, somewhere like average 1100/day vs 1000 ....not much I admit.


Jimbo



I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was in the air, than in the air wishing I was on the ground!
User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16819 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6618 times:

Quoting United Airline (Reply 8):
So EWR was no 1 before. When was that?

For seven consecutive years EWR handled more passengers and flights than JFK or LGA, JFK took back the title of handling the most passengers in 2002.

Same in the 1980s, during the 1980s EWR was busier in terms of passengers and flights than JFK thanks to the success of PeoplExpress.

EWR and JFK have gone back and forth several times as NYC's busiest airport in terms of passengers handled, also keep in mind EWR is NYC's first airport opening in 1928 before LGA or Idlewild/JFK.

S



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineJFK998 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6565 times:

EWR is the hub for CO, while JFK has B6 which is a major carrier, B6 does not have as many flights as CO's domestic and international combined. I would love to say JFK is busier as thats my hometown airport.. but I gotta say its EWR.

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