Aio86 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 928 posts, RR: 0 Posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2144 times:
Ok, here's my question...
American's big hub and base is at Dallas-Ft. Worth although I know that they have a lot more European flights from Chicago and more Latin American flights from Miami but I think that Dallas should still be important to them. So why do they fly their great 777s to London-Gatwick? Why not heathrow? Send Miami or some other destination to Gatwick, Heathrow's slots are too valuable. How about a smaller market like Boston or (as previously mentioned) Miami. Is it because the only other airline to Dallas from London is on BA and that flight is to LGW and it is the only airport that there is no competition with the Heathrow route. Wow did I just answer my own question or am I totally wrong and stupid?
Aio86 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 928 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2068 times:
Sorry umm, no American is one of the four airlines included in that. Delta does not have permission to fly to Heathrow. American flies there from LAX, SFO (I think), Chicago, New York JFK, New York Newark, Miami, Boston and Washington DC Dulles. Dallas is the only place they don't fly from the US to Heathrow.
FLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4510 posts, RR: 3 Reply 4, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2062 times:
Actually, the only airlines allowed to operate from the United States to London Heathrow are BA, AA, UA, and VS. AA aquired their landing rights through TWA in '91, as did UA from Pan Am.
Bermuda II also provides for only a certain number of cities which can have non-stop Heathrow service, of which the cities of Dallas/Ft. Worth were not included (I'll try to find a complete list). That is why DFW (and PHX, DEN, CLT, etc.) cannot have non-stop LHR flights.
Aio86 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 928 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1998 times:
Whoa, so does that mean that United is going to be starting their first service to Gatwick soon? They're starting Denver-London service, I asummed to heathrow but I guess I was wrong, as usual. Thanks for responding, if there's anything else important please mention it.
Sn330 From Belgium, joined Nov 2004, 16 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1953 times:
I don't think the missing city would be Denver. Why would BA serve it from LGW if it could from LHR. Also, DFW and IAH are much larger airports with much larger populations than DEN, as well as having continuous nonstop London services since the 70's when BCAL started to fly them. Trust me, Denver IS DEFINITELY NOT one of cities allowed by the Bermuda II agreement; IAH or DFW would have higher priority on getting on that exclusive list. There might not even be a missing city; there might be really 10, and SEA twice is a misprint.
Jderden777 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1749 posts, RR: 31 Reply 16, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1943 times:
this is kinda off topic, but why are there so many international airlines at IAH (i.e. AF, KLM) rather than DFW. yes, houston may be a larger city than Dallas, but is houston bigger than dallas and fort worth combined??? I would think that DFW would have more int'l traffic. anyone else agree?? blink182 do you have any comments on this???