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PTV's On BA's LGW/LHR 777 Fleet  
User currently offlineLGWspeedbird From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 459 posts, RR: 3
Posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6916 times:

Hi All

Just wanted to know wether the screen size of the PTV is smaller on the triple 7's in Club World compared to the 747 fleet, and also is the PTV's different to the LHR fleet than the LGW fleet?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

LGWspeedbird

edited to add club world

[Edited 2006-11-07 19:08:49]


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User currently offlineMEACEDAR From Lebanon, joined Oct 2006, 753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6888 times:

I think they are both the same size.

User currently offlineRichard28 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 1617 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6842 times:

There is a mixture of Rockwell Collins and Marconi IFE on the 777.

I do not know the screen sizes, but IIRC the Marconi system (I think on GE powered 777's) has a much smaller screen.


User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3890 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6837 times:

Am I right in thinking the LGW 777s are the older ones, with the smaller PTVs?

Or have they all been updated?


User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5190 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6831 times:

Not sure about LGW, but I travelled to AUH recently in F and we had the small style PTV's. (about2.5")

User currently offlineManny From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6798 times:

Quoting ANstar (Reply 4):
Not sure about LGW, but I travelled to AUH recently in F and we had the small style PTV's. (about2.5")

Did it come with a magnifying glass ?


User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5190 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6790 times:

Quoting Manny (Reply 5):
id it come with a magnifying glass ?

Unfortunately not. I decided to watch a movie from the Library... which to my surprise came out on a portable DVD player!! (Rather than the DV tape that usually goes in the seat!)


User currently offlineFbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3706 posts, RR: 28
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6749 times:

From Flyertalk.com

B-777-200IGW w/Marconi IFE (small screen):
G-ZZZA/B/C; G-RAES; G-VIIA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/*/J/K/L/M/N/S.

B-777-200 w/Rockwell Collins systems:
G-YMMA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P; G-VIIO/P/R/T/U/V/W/X/Y.

Rockwell Collins system on 747 and some 777s:

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Photo © Fraser Davidson



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User currently offlineMEACEDAR From Lebanon, joined Oct 2006, 753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6604 times:

Yum......I am getting hungry already.

User currently offlineWrighbrothers From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1875 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6479 times:

Quoting LGWspeedbird (Thread starter):
Hi All

Just wanted to know wether the screen size of the PTV is smaller on the triple 7's in Club World compared to the 747 fleet, and also is the PTV's different to the LHR fleet than the LGW fleet?

The screens are the same size aslong as they are the same make  Smile

Quoting Vasu (Reply 3):
Am I right in thinking the LGW 777s are the older ones, with the smaller PTVs?

Or have they all been updated?

There is a mix of Rockwell and Marconi at LGW, LHR is all Rockwell. Although this will no dobut be changed to all Rockwell when the LGW 777's go in for their IFE refits to AVOD.

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User currently offlineFbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3706 posts, RR: 28
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6474 times:

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 9):
There is a mix of Rockwell and Marconi at LGW, LHR is all Rockwell.

Not for sure. That post above with the Marconi was on an ex-LHR flight. It is the luck of the draw with the 777s.

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 9):
Although this will no dobut be changed to all Rockwell when the LGW 777's go in for their IFE refits to AVOD.

According to a BA insider on Flyertalk apparently the GMIS system will not be upgraded. Only 25 of the 43 777s are getting an AVOD upgrade, so you'll end up with AVOD or a substandard 12 channel system  thumbsdown 

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=525853



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User currently offlineWrighbrothers From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1875 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6330 times:

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 10):
Not for sure. That post above with the Marconi was on an ex-LHR flight. It is the luck of the draw with the 777s.

I see, I'm probably worng then.

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 10):
According to a BA insider on Flyertalk apparently the GMIS system will not be upgraded. Only 25 of the 43 777s are getting an AVOD upgrade, so you'll end up with AVOD or a substandard 12 channel system

Hmmm, sounds odd. Since they habe both GE and RR power aircrafts with the old IFE, it'd make scence to atleast one whole fleet, doesn't add up...

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User currently offlineEdina From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 743 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6309 times:

The 3 LGW based ex-AML 777s have a non standard and non uprgradeable 12 channel Rockwell Collins system with Rockwell size screens.


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User currently offlinePlanefixer From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6292 times:

The 3 ex AML aircraft have all been upgraded. When they had the Dusk mod, they also got the Rockwell TES system. 18 channels of movies and games in Club World and WT+.

There is not a "non-upgradeable" Rockwell Collins IFE system.

There are now 4 LGW based 777's with 3 classes, flying the routes that the AML aircraft used to fly. G-VIIO,P,R,T.


User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3890 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6292 times:

Quoting Edina (Reply 12):
ex-AML

What does that mean?


User currently offlinePlanefixer From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6292 times:

AML stood for Airline Management Limited

It was basically a "paper" airline that operated certain flights on behalf of BA, they had BA flight crew, Flying Colours (then JMC) cabin crew, and the aircraft tech log was in the name of AML.

This lasted for a few years in the late 1990's Ceased operations in Nov 1998

[Edited 2006-11-10 00:17:26]

User currently offlineRichard28 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 1617 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6262 times:

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 9):
Quoting LGWspeedbird (Thread starter):
Hi All

Just wanted to know wether the screen size of the PTV is smaller on the triple 7's in Club World compared to the 747 fleet, and also is the PTV's different to the LHR fleet than the LGW fleet?

The screens are the same size aslong as they are the same make Smile

are you sure? the Marconi screens look smaller to me:

Marconi:

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Rockwell Collins:

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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3890 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6256 times:

Quoting Planefixer (Reply 15):
AML stood for Airline Management Limited

Aha, yes! Weren't they the ones that operated 777s in 3-4-3 config?


User currently offlinePlanefixer From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6247 times:

Had them crammed in down the back. Rod Eddington made a point of bringing those routes back "in house" and making the config the same as standard 777's

I only ever flew them in Club, and only once since having the flat beds fitted.


User currently offlineEdina From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 743 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6134 times:

Rockwell screens definitely larger than the GMIS ones.


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User currently offlineAlanUK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6091 times:

Quoting Edina (Reply 19):
Rockwell screens definitely larger than the GMIS ones.

Yes, definitely.

Quoting ANstar (Reply 4):
I travelled to AUH recently in F and we had the small style PTV's. (about2.5")

No! More like 6''! Which isn't a lot for a PVT, but I guess it depends how you use it...  flamed 


User currently offlineWrighbrothers From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1875 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5956 times:

Quoting Richard28 (Reply 16):
are you sure? the Marconi screens look smaller to me:

That's because it is (by an inch or 2). What i meant, was that there was no difference in size between LHR Rockwell screens, and the LGW Rockwell screens.

Quoting Planefixer (Reply 15):
It was basically a "paper" airline that operated certain flights on behalf of BA, they had BA flight crew, Flying Colours (then JMC) cabin crew, and the aircraft tech log was in the name of AML.

Wasn't it flying colours, then it became JMC, and they were then taken over by someone else ?

Wrightbrothers

[Edited 2006-11-12 16:51:14]


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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5921 times:

On what routes were the AML aircraft flown?


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User currently offlineWrighbrothers From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1875 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5897 times:

Quoting Captaink (Reply 22):
On what routes were the AML aircraft flown?

They flew (at some point) to
KIN
TAB
TPA
SJU
MBJ
CUN
SJO
Havana
Puerto Plata (Dominican Republic)

Hope that answers your question  Smile

Here's some other info: when BA stopped using Airline Management Limeted (AML) they operated 3 BA 777's (G-VIIO, G-VIIP and G-VIIR) in a 2 class 28J/355M configuration from LGW.
Before that, they operated 1 (later 3) BA DC-10's (G-BHDH,G-BHDI and G-NIUK) in a 32J/279M layout from LGW between March 1997/8 and March 1999

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