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UA Continues Expansion With Huntsville, AL  
User currently offlinePlaneGuy27 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 314 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4939 times:

New service to Denver and Washington Hubs....

IAD needs Mobile service back!

Press Release Source: United Airlines


United Airlines Offers Customers New Service to Sweet Home Alabama
Wednesday November 8, 11:36 am ET
Customers will have daily nonstop service to Huntsville, Ala., via United Express from United's hubs in Washington Dulles and Denver


CHICAGO, Nov. 8 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- United Airlines today announced new nonstop service to Huntsville, Ala., daily from Denver beginning Feb. 14, and twice daily from Washington Dulles beginning April 9. On the Denver flights, customers will have the benefit of explus(SM) -- the United Express® regional jet service that offers the most premium seats of any regional jet carrier, including the amenities of first class and the extra legroom of Economy Plus®.
"We're excited to add Huntsville to our global network and look forward to serving customers traveling to and from this key U.S. southeastern city," said Kevin Knight, United's vice president of Resource Planning. "The new service will connect customers to hundreds of destinations around the world, including our newest capital-to-capital service between Washington, D.C., and Tokyo Narita."

The proposed flight schedule between Huntsville, Ala., and Denver will begin Feb. 14, 2007, and be operated by United Express partner SkyWest:


Route: Depart: Arrive:
Denver to Huntsville 10:30 a.m. 1:46 p.m.
Huntsville to Denver 2:20 p.m. 4:11 p.m.


The proposed flight schedule between Huntsville, Ala., and Washington Dulles will begin April 9, 2007, and be operated by United Express partner Mesa:


Route: Depart: Arrive:
Dulles to Huntsville 12:15 p.m. 1:10 p.m.
Dulles to Huntsville 5:00 p.m. 5:55 p.m.
Huntsville to Dulles* 8:45 a.m. 11:25 a.m.
Huntsville to Dulles 1:38 p.m. 4:18 p.m.

*Will begin on April 10, 2007

All routes and frequencies are subject to change.
A sample fare between Huntsville, Ala., and Denver on United Express is $149** each way, based on required roundtrip purchase by Dec. 6, 2006. A sample fare between Huntsville, Ala., and Dulles on United Express is $124** each way, based on required roundtrip purchase by Dec. 6, 2006. Visit united.com for more details.

Huntsville, Ala., has been chosen by Inc. Magazine for the past two years as one of the cities with the most high-growth businesses per capita in the United States. It is home to the U.S. Army's Redstone Arsenal, Cummings Research Park and NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center, in addition to many Fortune 500 companies.

United's global network connects its customers to major cities around the world. United, Ted(SM) and United Express® will provide an average of 321 daily departures from Washington Dulles by November 2006 and convenient connections to more than 90 destinations.

Customers will earn 1,000 bonus miles each time they purchase qualifying travel at united.com, which also offers no booking fees and the guaranteed lowest United fares. Customers can also earn 500 bonus miles each time they check in for a flight using EasyCheck-in Online at united.com by Jan. 31, 2007. Both of these bonus mile offers enable customers to earn an additional 2,000 miles per flight. Terms and conditions of the offers are available at united.com.

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User currently offlineMEACEDAR From Lebanon, joined Oct 2006, 753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4939 times:

Good for United...I don't think they will make money...but its a possibility.

User currently offlineBicoastal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4903 times:

United isn't expanding to Huntsville. United Express is. United can't expand because it can't/won't buy new planes for a couple of years. So, have the lower paid regionals pick up the slack. Not a bad strategy.

User currently offlineFlyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2000 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4892 times:

Are we going to see any more new domestic markets introduced in 2007? Would be nice to see them back here in TOL....but I'm sure they prefer DTW.

User currently offlineChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1613 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4842 times:

Quoting PlaneGuy27 (Thread starter):
IAD needs Mobile service back!

I agree, PNS too, from Chicago though. Make it easier to visit Mom.

US serves PNS, so that may be the reason? It does seem strange to me not to be able to book ORD-PNS through united.com.

MOB is a good one though. Without having to connect in ATL, IAH or DFW to come to CHI.

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User currently offlineZone1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1035 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4810 times:

Quoting PlaneGuy27 (Thread starter):
IAD needs Mobile service back!

 yes  When I read the headline on Yahoo news I was hoping for MOB service.

Quoting ChiGB1973 (Reply 4):
I agree, PNS too, from Chicago though. Make it easier to visit Mom.

It would be nice if UA brought back service to MOB or PNS. I doubt this will happen, though. DL has cut back service to MOB so badly that there is plenty of room for another carrier, but I'm sure that if anyone started up service, DL could easily send in a couple of MDs or 738s and flood the market. The prices out of MOB are making CO, US, NW, and AA happy, so there is no reason to increase their service. I feel the status quo is going to stay for a while.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32619 posts, RR: 72
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4793 times:

I'm pretty sure (not 100%) that is thanks to a Small Community Air Service Development Grant.


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User currently offlineMtnWest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2433 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4647 times:
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It'll be nice to see UA (although Express) back at HSV.


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User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7456 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4624 times:

I wish UA would do E170 or CR7 service to ROC-DEN. Eagle does ROC-DFW.


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User currently offlineRocANDtpa From United States of America, joined May 2006, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4512 times:

If its any consaltation

UA has upgraded express eqipment on ROC-ORD and ROC-IAD

ROC-IAD: from 5 crj/erj to 2 erj70 & 3 crj/erj

ROC-ORD: now has crj7 service


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26376 posts, RR: 76
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4443 times:

Quoting Bicoastal (Reply 2):
So, have the lower paid regionals pick up the slack. Not a bad strategy.

Wrong. That strategy is one of the main reasons the legacy carriers got themselves into such a hole. Remember, just because the regional carriers pay like crap doesn't mean their costs are any lower than legacies. The CASM on RJs is sky high and the legacies must subsidize profit levels for their regional carriers. It ends up costing United more to use regional service.



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User currently offlineSupa7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4405 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 10):
It ends up costing United more to use regional service.

Uh-huh. Yeah, United should abandon its Express operations. Do us all a favor and stick with topics you know something about.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 6):
I'm pretty sure (not 100%) that is thanks to a Small Community Air Service Development Grant.

To DEN? Washington already has 3 or 4 HSV flights (US Airways) last time I was aware. HSV enjoys some govt traffic but UA must be hoping for Northeast / Europe connections?


User currently offlineWeAreUnited From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 423 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4382 times:

Does it seem odd to anyone else that ORD is not included? Is it because it is now a slot-controlled airport?!?

User currently offlineOMA2FAI2SAV From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4366 times:

Now all UA has to do is announce SAV-DEN, and I will be happy! LOL! When will SAV get something to DEN?

User currently offlineBrick From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1579 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4308 times:

I fly into HSV from Denver frequently for business. This is great news! No more ATL connections! Or flying into BNA and driving for 2 hours!

The HSV-IAD is going to be a killer money maker just for the Intergraph business alone.



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User currently offlineCIDflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2273 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4271 times:

Quoting WeAreUnited (Reply 12):
Does it seem odd to anyone else that ORD is not included? Is it because it is now a slot-controlled airport?!?

I was thinking the same thing...is this the only airport to be served by UA that has service to DEN and IAD without having ORD service?


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26376 posts, RR: 76
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4246 times:

Quoting Supa7E7 (Reply 11):
Uh-huh. Yeah, United should abandon its Express operations. Do us all a favor and stick with topics you know something about.

Do us all a favor and don't patronize me. I never said United should abandon Express. If United abandoned Express, I couldn't fly into OXR as I tend to prefer. I was talking about the overreliance on regional carriers since the introduction of them disaster that is the regional jet.



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User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 44
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4182 times:

Quoting Supa7E7 (Reply 11):
Washington already has 3 or 4 HSV flights (US Airways) last time I was aware.

4x daily (3x CRJ + 1x E70) HSV-DCA flights on US and also 2x daily (both CRJ) HSV-DCA flights on DL.



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User currently offlinePensacolaguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 546 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4091 times:

Congrats to HSV! Is this the first time United has had a presence in HSV?

Quoting ChiGB1973 (Reply 4):

Try AA.com, American Eagle has a Daily ORD-PNS-ORD flight.  Smile


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26376 posts, RR: 76
Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4060 times:

Quoting Pensacolaguy (Reply 18):
Congrats to HSV! Is this the first time United has had a presence in HSV?

Nope. In fact, BHMBAGLOCK mentioned to me this weekend that he flew on an old mainline ORD-HSV-BHM flight



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User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5369 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3806 times:

Quoting Pensacolaguy (Reply 18):
Is this the first time United has had a presence in HSV?

About 45 years ago UAL inherited Huntsville routes to DCA/PHL/NYC, CLE, and BUF in the north and MSY in the south via intermediate points from the UAL-Capital merger. They offered decent service using mainly Viscounts in the early 60's.



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User currently offlineMtnWest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2433 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3767 times:
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Quoting Pensacolaguy (Reply 18):
Is this the first time United has had a presence in HSV?

Looking thru some old UA timetables , HSV has had:

Sept 6,1978-
1 nonstop GSO (Greensboro)
2 nonstop TYS (Knoxville)
2 nonstop LAX
1 nonstop DCA xSa

April 26,1981-
2 nonstop BHM
1 nonstop DEN
1 nonstop TYS
1 nonstop DCA xSa

October 1,1984-
2 nonstop BHM
1 nonstop DEN
2 nonstop TYS

Feb 9- April 2,1994-
3 nonstop Express/Atlantic Coast to IAD
1 daily, 1 xSa, 1 xSaSu

Next timetable I looked at was April 1995, and HSV was gone.

It to me would look like HSV is a fairly high fare airport, seeing as there is no LCC of any type there. Is this somewhat true? Looks like AirTran or someone might do OK.



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User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5970 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3724 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
I was talking about the overreliance on regional carriers since the introduction of them disaster that is the regional jet.

Let me get this straight: you think it's a disaster if a regional aircraft comes in and loses a lot less money than a mainline aircraft that can only pull the same number of passengers?



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User currently offlineZone1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1035 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3569 times:

Quoting MtnWest1979 (Reply 21):
t to me would look like HSV is a fairly high fare airport, seeing as there is no LCC of any type there. Is this somewhat true? Looks like AirTran or someone might do OK.

I could see an LCC doing well there. HSV was served by iAir up until shutdown, so it must have been doing well enough to not get the ax when they went through the first round of cuts.



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User currently offlineBHMBAGLOCK From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2698 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3514 times:

Quoting MEACEDAR (Reply 1):
Good for United...I don't think they will make money...but its a possibility.

Lots of business and government traffic to HSV. NASA, Redstone Arsenal, all US Army rotorcraft program management, US Army Missile Command, lots of electronics fabrication and design, Delta rocket factory, Toyota factory, etc. Looks like a pretty smart move to me, Dulles in particular.

Quoting Pensacolaguy (Reply 18):
Congrats to HSV! Is this the first time United has had a presence in HSV?

No, they used to run a 737 ORD-HSV-BHM-ORD once or twice a day.



Where are all of my respected members going?
25 N1120A : No, I think it is a disaster to lose money in the first place. Turboprop flights are absolutely something the regionals should do, but if a city can'
26 Goldenshield : Perhaps UA should look into the Q400 then. It'll do DEN-HSV in 5 hours and 1 fuel stop.
27 Zone1 : Yup. It's a great way to fill some seats on IAD-NRT.
28 BHMBAGLOCK : Sanmina/SCI and some of the other electronics manufacturers will also eat that up. There are also many European companies and organizations with a pr
29 N1120A : No, what they should do is use 90-100 seat jets flown by mainline. The problem is, they can't afford the new capacity, which is why they are stuck wi
30 Goldenshield : The only new aircraft in that range now is the CRJ-900 and and E-190/95. If the mainline carriers used these aircraft with their crews, they lose the
31 Post contains links Ytib : Probably due to the fact there is not much demand to ORD and AE already has two flights a day there. Most likely not due to the amount of service alr
32 N1120A : Incorrect. Mainline carriers flew that sized aircraft for years with success. Air Canada operates aircraft in the 75 seat market as mainline and has
33 Xpfg : Goldenshield's response still stands here. Regardless of whether they "flew" (key thing being past tense) these size aircraft or not, the payscales t
34 Milesrich : United began service to HSV on July 1, 1961 when United absorbed Capital Airlines. United had nonstop service between DCA and HSV for year prior to de
35 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Yup, been there done that. UA used a 732 on that run. In fact, done it several times. Got stranded in HSV once as they couldn't get the engine fired
36 CIDflyer : would be nice to see UA expand more in the SE to places like MOB, PNS, MGM, TLH, etc. I realize that they probably use the US codeshare to places like
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