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Which LCC's Are Unlikely To Suvive The Winter  
User currently offlineGoinv From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 264 posts, RR: 2
Posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4795 times:

Winter is often a difficult time of year for the aviation business.

Which Low Cost Carrier is top of you list to fail before Summer '07 ?


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User currently offlineChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1615 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4779 times:

None in the United States, though there are two that are destined to fail before starting.

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User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4669 times:
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I have many doubts about your question but here are my top listed:

1. Clickair (it's a failure and will be a great failure if IB don't prevent it).
2. Air Scotland (it out of Business now, no?)
3. Air Madrid (I do not consider it as low cost carrier but their rates are so reduced).



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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6484 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4606 times:

4. Virgin America
5. Virgin Express (only because it is being absorbed)



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User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2388 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4594 times:

Add Centavia to the list, they will fly their aircraft back to the UK for storage tomorrow because they did not get any traffic rights.


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User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4449 times:

Clickair -wrong product ,wrong destinations,too much competition
SkyEurope - not enough revenue,difficult Eastern European Market ,under capitalized,eaten up all capital..
Central Wings - see SkyEurope...(but sponsored by LOT )



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User currently offlineBeech19 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 936 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4439 times:

SkyBust! Err... Skybus... (won't even get started).  Wink


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User currently offlineZRHnerd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4439 times:

What about Wizzair? Haven't heard anything about them lately.

User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2972 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4422 times:

some of these Turkish carriers...

BestAir
FlyAir
Golden Airlines


User currently offlineGoinv From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 264 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4326 times:

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 2):
I have many doubts about your question but here are my top listed

May I ask what doubts you have ?



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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4920 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4179 times:

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 2):
1. Clickair (it's a failure and will be a great failure if IB don't prevent it).

Surely IB will keep ClickAir going - for it to fail this winter would be a total embarrasment

Quoting ZRHnerd (Reply 7):
What about Wizzair? Haven't heard anything about them lately.

Theyve recently announced their expansion for next summer, at least some of it and seem to be doing OK - they are also well placed to expand further into Romania and Bulgaria when they become EU members



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User currently offlineJetBlueGuy2006 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1660 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4029 times:

I will have to say Skybus and Virgin America. I would love to see them get off the ground, but there is just too much compacity as it is without 2 more carriers


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User currently offlineOMA2FAI2SAV From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3975 times:

Virgin America will not fail. Nor will Skybus. Not this winter anyways. I think too much has been pumped into Virgin America for them to fail. The only way I feel that they will fail is if the DOT does not let them fly. As for Skybus, they have a large amount of startup money, and will start service. Shortly after that, they will fail, but service will start before they do. My thoughts anyways.

User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2675 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3817 times:

Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Reply 11):
compacity

Capacity, I hope you mean. Also, US domestic load factors are reaching record levels, thanks to the recent decrease in capacity. The capacity isn't there because it can't be filled profitably, and thus isn't being offered. Capacity isn't the problem- yield is. That said, I also believe that neither of the two will survive.


User currently offlineStationManager From Spain, joined Sep 2006, 88 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3459 times:

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 2):
I have many doubts about your question but here are my top listed:

1. Clickair (it's a failure and will be a great failure if IB don't prevent it).
2. Air Scotland (it out of Business now, no?)
3. Air Madrid (I do not consider it as low cost carrier but their rates are so reduced).

1. Till now loads are very good, It will grow receiving pax transfered from IB, It will become 1st spanish low cost carrier sure in the next 3 years surpassing VY.
2. It could dissapear last year , now doing well.
3. Nothing to say about future but i would say is LCC clearly, no hotels, no welfare, low costs Big grin


User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3459 times:

Woth a biot of luck FR will go bust but it won't happen.


I think Clickair will work, dunno why just think it will !


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