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Which LCC's Are Unlikely To Suvive The Winter  
User currently offlineGoinv From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 264 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4888 times:

Winter is often a difficult time of year for the aviation business.

Which Low Cost Carrier is top of you list to fail before Summer '07 ?


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User currently offlineChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1619 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4872 times:

None in the United States, though there are two that are destined to fail before starting.

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User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4762 times:
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I have many doubts about your question but here are my top listed:

1. Clickair (it's a failure and will be a great failure if IB don't prevent it).
2. Air Scotland (it out of Business now, no?)
3. Air Madrid (I do not consider it as low cost carrier but their rates are so reduced).



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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6491 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4699 times:

4. Virgin America
5. Virgin Express (only because it is being absorbed)



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User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2396 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4687 times:

Add Centavia to the list, they will fly their aircraft back to the UK for storage tomorrow because they did not get any traffic rights.


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User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4542 times:

Clickair -wrong product ,wrong destinations,too much competition
SkyEurope - not enough revenue,difficult Eastern European Market ,under capitalized,eaten up all capital..
Central Wings - see SkyEurope...(but sponsored by LOT )



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User currently offlineBeech19 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 936 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4532 times:

SkyBust! Err... Skybus... (won't even get started).  Wink


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User currently offlineZRHnerd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4532 times:

What about Wizzair? Haven't heard anything about them lately.

User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 3008 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4515 times:

some of these Turkish carriers...

BestAir
FlyAir
Golden Airlines


User currently offlineGoinv From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 264 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4419 times:

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 2):
I have many doubts about your question but here are my top listed

May I ask what doubts you have ?



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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4927 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4272 times:

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 2):
1. Clickair (it's a failure and will be a great failure if IB don't prevent it).

Surely IB will keep ClickAir going - for it to fail this winter would be a total embarrasment

Quoting ZRHnerd (Reply 7):
What about Wizzair? Haven't heard anything about them lately.

Theyve recently announced their expansion for next summer, at least some of it and seem to be doing OK - they are also well placed to expand further into Romania and Bulgaria when they become EU members



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User currently offlineJetBlueGuy2006 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1663 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4122 times:

I will have to say Skybus and Virgin America. I would love to see them get off the ground, but there is just too much compacity as it is without 2 more carriers


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User currently offlineOMA2FAI2SAV From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4068 times:

Virgin America will not fail. Nor will Skybus. Not this winter anyways. I think too much has been pumped into Virgin America for them to fail. The only way I feel that they will fail is if the DOT does not let them fly. As for Skybus, they have a large amount of startup money, and will start service. Shortly after that, they will fail, but service will start before they do. My thoughts anyways.

User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2692 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3910 times:

Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Reply 11):
compacity

Capacity, I hope you mean. Also, US domestic load factors are reaching record levels, thanks to the recent decrease in capacity. The capacity isn't there because it can't be filled profitably, and thus isn't being offered. Capacity isn't the problem- yield is. That said, I also believe that neither of the two will survive.


User currently offlineStationManager From Spain, joined Sep 2006, 88 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3552 times:

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 2):
I have many doubts about your question but here are my top listed:

1. Clickair (it's a failure and will be a great failure if IB don't prevent it).
2. Air Scotland (it out of Business now, no?)
3. Air Madrid (I do not consider it as low cost carrier but their rates are so reduced).

1. Till now loads are very good, It will grow receiving pax transfered from IB, It will become 1st spanish low cost carrier sure in the next 3 years surpassing VY.
2. It could dissapear last year , now doing well.
3. Nothing to say about future but i would say is LCC clearly, no hotels, no welfare, low costs Big grin


User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3552 times:

Woth a biot of luck FR will go bust but it won't happen.


I think Clickair will work, dunno why just think it will !


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