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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3921 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 6230 times:

Which airlines would you say have very "random" fleets? I nominate Air Madrid.

http://www.air-madrid.com/info_flota.do

Their long haul fleet is certainly a bit "random"!

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User currently offlineSpacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3629 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6112 times:

If by "random" you really mean "varied", that's nothing. JAL had by far the most varied fleet of any major carrier up until a year or so ago. At one point, JAL was flying the following types simultaneously:

747-100
747SR
747-400
747-400D
767-200
767-300
777-200
777-300
777-300ER
737-400
DC-10
MD-11
MD-81
MD-87
MD-90
A300-B2/B4
A300-600R

Include subsidiaries flying under JAL colors and you can add the following to that list:

747-200 (cargo)
747-300
CRJ-200
DHC-8402
Saab 340B

That said, no fleet is "random". All types made sense at the time to whoever was purchasing them. JAL's fleet was a mixture of JAL and JAS post-merger - JAL didn't buy those Airbuses or most of the MD-80's. Also, the year or two that all of these types were flying simultaneously was a transition year between new and old - the 747 classics are almost all gone from the passenger roster at this point. Not sure about the A300's; I believe they were slated for retirement, though.



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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 6020 times:

In the late 1980's, many airlines in the U.S. had "varied" fleets. UA, for example, flew the DC-10-10 & DC-10-30, DC-8-70's, 727-100's and 727-200's, 737-200's, 737-300's, & 737-500's, 747-100's, 747-200's, & 747-400's, 757-200's, 767-200's, (I think the 767-300's were much later!!). In fact, right after the Pan Am Pacific Routes acquisition, United even operated the 747SP and the Lockheed L-1011!!


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User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4676 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 5962 times:

Northwest comes to mind..

CRJs
E175s (soon)
CR9 (soon)
DC9s
A319/320
B757
A330
B787 (soon)
B747
and up till recently, the DC-10

all over the map, both new and old.



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User currently offlineCptGirmayTesfa From Peru, joined Oct 2003, 406 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks ago) and read 5891 times:

Of course you have to put things in perspective and take into account the size of the airline.

A relatively small airline with relatively many aircraft types that comes to my mind is Egypt Air.


User currently offlineBoysteve From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 940 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5792 times:

Well I guess we should include any smaller airline that flies both the B737 and A320 family. Or a samll airline that flies both the B767 and A330 with just a handful of each.

User currently offlineNZAA From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5783 times:

AN had this problem. Thanks to Sir Peter Ables. This is one of the reasons for its downfall


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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5768 times:

TAM is going to top that list soon, and it concerns me.

N


User currently offlineB6WNQX From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5602 times:

What about US?

A319 (same pilot rating as A320 though)
A320
B733
B735 (same pilot rating as B733 though)
A333
B762
B752
E190-soon to be

The list isn't too long but still quite a few.


User currently offlineNewSky From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5461 times:

Quoting Boysteve (Reply 5):
Well I guess we should include any smaller airline that flies both the B737 and A320 family. Or a samll airline that flies both the B767 and A330 with just a handful of each.

You mean like Asiana! They have A320/321 + B734/735. Also A333 + B763.

Oh, and some 747s and 777s as well.


User currently offlineAg92 From India, joined Jul 2006, 1317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5379 times:

MH

From the Fokker F50 to the B737-400

Regards


User currently offlineZKNEA From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 151 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5267 times:

How about Saudi Arabian?

http://www.saudiairlines.com/services/fleet.jsp


User currently offlineB6WNQX From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5140 times:

Here is what LH has:

B747-400 x 30
A340-600 x 12
A340-300 x 28
A330-300 x 10
A300-600 x 13
A321 x 26
A320 x 36
A319 x 18
B737-300 x 33
B737-500 x 29
Avro RJ85 x 18
CRJ900 x 11
CRJ700 x 20
CRJ100/200 x 30
MD 11F x 19

While many of these are same pilot rating they do have a nice array of planes!


User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2713 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5117 times:

I would vote for Thai and its widebodies. When I was in BKK last year, I was amazed:

Wide
A300-600
A330-300
A340-500
A340-600
MD-11 (Are these still in the fleet?)
747-300
747-400
777-200
777-300

Narrow - Probably one of the simpliest nb fleets
737-400

A380 on order


User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6330 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5104 times:

My own home airline, Air Namibia!

Airbus A340-300's
Boeing 737-200's
Raytheon 1900's, both C and D versions

Sure, not many planes, but they're all over the board!


User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2713 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5093 times:

It seems like a lot of the fleets are varied because the airline is slowing phasing out one aircraft type for another one, e.g.:

Replacing the 733 and 735 with the A320 family.
Replacing the MD-11 with the 777.
Replacing the 762 with the A330.

What I don't understand is airlines that own relatively new A340 and 777?


User currently offlineLufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3217 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5093 times:

I can't believe nobody has mentioned SAS.

do I need to say anymore?


User currently onlineCPHGuard From Denmark, joined Jun 2006, 278 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5063 times:

Quoting Lufthansa (Reply 16):
I can't believe nobody has mentioned SAS

I would like to nominate SAS.

Airbus 319
Airbus 321
Airbus 330
Airbus 340
Boeing 737
MD-81
MD-82
MD-83
MD-87
MD-90 (even though i think they retired the last ones)
Dash-8 Q400
CRJ

And then of course what their sister companys like Widerøe and Skyways are flying:

Dash-8/Q300
Fokker 50
Saab 340

Cheers
Thomas


User currently offlineAlexPorter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5044 times:

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 3):
Northwest comes to mind..



Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 3):
and up till recently, the DC-10

They still fly this, as well as the RJ-85 you didn't mention at all, until about the end of the year (DC-10 only does MSP-HNL, and RJ-85 only flies from DTW), plus you didn't differentiate the 747s. NW's current fleet is:

747-400
747-200
A330-300
DC-10-30
A330-200
757-300
757-200
A320
DC-9-50
A319
DC-9-40
DC-9-30
RJ-85
CRJ-200
Saab 340

US and UA are varied quite a bit since they have both Airbus and Boeing - UA in particular is known to order from both manufacturers, while US only orders Airbus nowadays, but the E-190 is going to be mainline so there's also that.

Quoting CPHGuard (Reply 17):
I would like to nominate SAS.

I can't think of any other airline that operates both the A320 series and the 737-NG! Very strange.


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6816 posts, RR: 77
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5035 times:

Let's not forget the Chinese carriers...e.g. China Southern:

B747-400F
B777-200ER
B777-200
A330-200
A300-600R
B757-200
A321-200
A320-200
A319-100
B737-800
B737-700
B737-300
B737-500
MD-90
MD-82
ATR72-500
ERJ145

Orders:
A380-800
B777-200LRF
B787-8
A330-300


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9215 posts, RR: 21
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5011 times:

Quoting B6WNQX (Reply 8):
What about US?

A319 (same pilot rating as A320 though)
A320
B733
B735 (same pilot rating as B733 though)
A333
B762
B752
E190-soon to be

The list isn't too long but still quite a few.

How about 5 years ago...

DC9s, MD80s, Fokkers, 727, 732, 733, 734, 757, A319, A320, A321, 767, A330. Of course the Airbuses have replaced the aged DC9/80, 727 aircraft and fokker aircraft, and more will eventually replace the 733s and 4s as soon as that need comes

Aren't they simplifying their regional fleet?

LH also comes to mind, as someone else has already mentioned



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User currently onlineCPHGuard From Denmark, joined Jun 2006, 278 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5011 times:

Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 18):
I can't think of any other airline that operates both the A320 series and the 737-NG! Very strange.

Agreed. They don't operate many A320 series aircraft. I beleive it is less than ten.

I dont have inside knowledge, but i imagine that it is some A330/340 orders that were changed to A320's, when SAS decided to cut down on their longhaul operations.
Actually the 319's were originally 321 orders, but this was changed.

The backbone of the SAS shorthaul fleet is the MD-80 series and the 737NG. I beleive they operate aprox. 50 of each type. MD-80's out of CPH, and 737NG's out of ARN & Oslo.

Cheers
Thomas


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6816 posts, RR: 77
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4999 times:

Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 18):
I can't think of any other airline that operates both the A320 series and the 737-NG! Very strange.

Air Astana
Air Berlin
Air China
ANA
Austrian
Chang An Airlines
China Eastern
China Southern
easyJet
Egypt Air
Hainan Airlines
KTHY
Royal Air Maroc
Shanghai Airlines
Shenzhen Airlines
South African
Tarom
Tunis Air
Turkish Airlines


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offline1stfl94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 1455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4815 times:

Quoting Vasu (Thread starter):
http://www.air-madrid.com/info_flota.do

Their long haul fleet is certainly a bit "random"!

An A310, some A330s and an A340. Hardly what I'd call random, aside from the fact that most of the aircraft are secondhand and still have their old operators interiors. But these are fairly minor points compared to some of the varied fleets around.

Actually for randomness, in the mid 90s Air France had nearly all versions of the 747 (-100s, -200s, -300s, -400s, full passenger aircraft, combis, freighters and two SUDs)


User currently offlineFly727 From Mexico, joined Jul 2003, 1789 posts, RR: 19
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4707 times:

Great diversity at AeroMexico's fleet:

Saab340B
EMB145
MD82
MD83
MD87
MD88
737-700
737-800
757-200
767-200
767-300
777-200

RM  Smile



There are no stupid questions... just stupid people!
25 Fuffla : Ansett had a weird fleet, and as stated before, it was a major reason for their bankrupsy! A320 x 20 BAE146-200 x 9 BAE146-300 x 11 727-200F x 1 737-3
26 Konrad : Can't believe nobody nominated Austrian. A while ago they had all that: 772 763 343 342 332 321 320 319 738 73G 736 734 733 M80 100 F70 CRJ DH4 DH3 No
27 Peh : Re: Ansett's weird fleet... Aren't there a few of these still sitting off Melbourne's airport? I can see them from the road on the drive out.
28 LHRspotter : Balkan Bulgarian Airlines had only about 20 aircraft at the beginning of the nineties but it was quite a collection: TU134 TU154 TU154M Boeing 737-300
29 777klm : What about KLM / KLC?: Fokker F50 Fokker F70 Fokker F100 Airbus A330-200 Boeing 737-300 Boeing 737-400 Boeing 737-700 (PrivatAir) Boeing 737-800 Boein
30 Shinkai : Singapore Airlines has a very random fleet if you look at its history, present and foreseeable future... Concorde DC-10 B707-300 B727-200 B737-100 B73
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