Spacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3277 posts, RR: 14 Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4456 times:
If by "random" you really mean "varied", that's nothing. JAL had by far the most varied fleet of any major carrier up until a year or so ago. At one point, JAL was flying the following types simultaneously:
Include subsidiaries flying under JAL colors and you can add the following to that list:
747-200 (cargo)
747-300
CRJ-200
DHC-8402
Saab 340B
That said, no fleet is "random". All types made sense at the time to whoever was purchasing them. JAL's fleet was a mixture of JAL and JAS post-merger - JAL didn't buy those Airbuses or most of the MD-80's. Also, the year or two that all of these types were flying simultaneously was a transition year between new and old - the 747 classics are almost all gone from the passenger roster at this point. Not sure about the A300's; I believe they were slated for retirement, though.
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PanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 9 Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4364 times:
In the late 1980's, many airlines in the U.S. had "varied" fleets. UA, for example, flew the DC-10-10 & DC-10-30, DC-8-70's, 727-100's and 727-200's, 737-200's, 737-300's, & 737-500's, 747-100's, 747-200's, & 747-400's, 757-200's, 767-200's, (I think the 767-300's were much later!!). In fact, right after the Pan Am Pacific Routes acquisition, United even operated the 747SP and the Lockheed L-1011!!
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RL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4537 posts, RR: 13 Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4306 times:
Northwest comes to mind..
CRJs
E175s (soon)
CR9 (soon)
DC9s
A319/320
B757
A330
B787 (soon)
B747
and up till recently, the DC-10
all over the map, both new and old.
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Boysteve From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 888 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4136 times:
Well I guess we should include any smaller airline that flies both the B737 and A320 family. Or a samll airline that flies both the B767 and A330 with just a handful of each.
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4112 times:
TAM is going to top that list soon, and it concerns me.
NewSky From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 38 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks ago) and read 3805 times:
Quoting Boysteve (Reply 5): Well I guess we should include any smaller airline that flies both the B737 and A320 family. Or a samll airline that flies both the B767 and A330 with just a handful of each.
You mean like Asiana! They have A320/321 + B734/735. Also A333 + B763.
B6WNQX From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 239 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3484 times:
Here is what LH has:
B747-400 x 30
A340-600 x 12
A340-300 x 28
A330-300 x 10
A300-600 x 13
A321 x 26
A320 x 36
A319 x 18
B737-300 x 33
B737-500 x 29
Avro RJ85 x 18
CRJ900 x 11
CRJ700 x 20
CRJ100/200 x 30
MD 11F x 19
While many of these are same pilot rating they do have a nice array of planes!
United787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2352 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3461 times:
I would vote for Thai and its widebodies. When I was in BKK last year, I was amazed:
Wide
A300-600
A330-300
A340-500
A340-600
MD-11 (Are these still in the fleet?)
747-300
747-400
777-200
777-300
Narrow - Probably one of the simpliest nb fleets
737-400
SW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6105 posts, RR: 10 Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3448 times:
My own home airline, Air Namibia!
Airbus A340-300's
Boeing 737-200's
Raytheon 1900's, both C and D versions
Sure, not many planes, but they're all over the board!
United787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2352 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3437 times:
It seems like a lot of the fleets are varied because the airline is slowing phasing out one aircraft type for another one, e.g.:
Replacing the 733 and 735 with the A320 family.
Replacing the MD-11 with the 777.
Replacing the 762 with the A330.
What I don't understand is airlines that own relatively new A340 and 777?
Lufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3086 posts, RR: 10 Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3437 times:
They still fly this, as well as the RJ-85 you didn't mention at all, until about the end of the year (DC-10 only does MSP-HNL, and RJ-85 only flies from DTW), plus you didn't differentiate the 747s. NW's current fleet is:
US and UA are varied quite a bit since they have both Airbus and Boeing - UA in particular is known to order from both manufacturers, while US only orders Airbus nowadays, but the E-190 is going to be mainline so there's also that.
Steeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 8852 posts, RR: 19 Reply 20, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3355 times:
A319 (same pilot rating as A320 though)
A320
B733
B735 (same pilot rating as B733 though)
A333
B762
B752
E190-soon to be
The list isn't too long but still quite a few.
How about 5 years ago...
DC9s, MD80s, Fokkers, 727, 732, 733, 734, 757, A319, A320, A321, 767, A330. Of course the Airbuses have replaced the aged DC9/80, 727 aircraft and fokker aircraft, and more will eventually replace the 733s and 4s as soon as that need comes
Aren't they simplifying their regional fleet?
LH also comes to mind, as someone else has already mentioned
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CPHGuard From Denmark, joined Jun 2006, 254 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3355 times:
Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 18): I can't think of any other airline that operates both the A320 series and the 737-NG! Very strange.
Agreed. They don't operate many A320 series aircraft. I beleive it is less than ten.
I dont have inside knowledge, but i imagine that it is some A330/340 orders that were changed to A320's, when SAS decided to cut down on their longhaul operations.
Actually the 319's were originally 321 orders, but this was changed.
The backbone of the SAS shorthaul fleet is the MD-80 series and the 737NG. I beleive they operate aprox. 50 of each type. MD-80's out of CPH, and 737NG's out of ARN & Oslo.
PlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6211 posts, RR: 79 Reply 22, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3343 times:
Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 18): I can't think of any other airline that operates both the A320 series and the 737-NG! Very strange.
Air Astana
Air Berlin
Air China
ANA
Austrian
Chang An Airlines
China Eastern
China Southern
easyJet
Egypt Air
Hainan Airlines
KTHY
Royal Air Maroc
Shanghai Airlines
Shenzhen Airlines
South African
Tarom
Tunis Air
Turkish Airlines
Their long haul fleet is certainly a bit "random"!
An A310, some A330s and an A340. Hardly what I'd call random, aside from the fact that most of the aircraft are secondhand and still have their old operators interiors. But these are fairly minor points compared to some of the varied fleets around.
Actually for randomness, in the mid 90s Air France had nearly all versions of the 747 (-100s, -200s, -300s, -400s, full passenger aircraft, combis, freighters and two SUDs)
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25 Fuffla: Ansett had a weird fleet, and as stated before, it was a major reason for their bankrupsy! A320 x 20 BAE146-200 x 9 BAE146-300 x 11 727-200F x 1 737-3
26 Konrad: Can't believe nobody nominated Austrian. A while ago they had all that: 772 763 343 342 332 321 320 319 738 73G 736 734 733 M80 100 F70 CRJ DH4 DH3 No
27 Peh: Re: Ansett's weird fleet... Aren't there a few of these still sitting off Melbourne's airport? I can see them from the road on the drive out.
28 LHRspotter: Balkan Bulgarian Airlines had only about 20 aircraft at the beginning of the nineties but it was quite a collection: TU134 TU154 TU154M Boeing 737-300
29 777klm: What about KLM / KLC?: Fokker F50 Fokker F70 Fokker F100 Airbus A330-200 Boeing 737-300 Boeing 737-400 Boeing 737-700 (PrivatAir) Boeing 737-800 Boein
30 Shinkai: Singapore Airlines has a very random fleet if you look at its history, present and foreseeable future... Concorde DC-10 B707-300 B727-200 B737-100 B73