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User currently offlineFiaz From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 94 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 16676 times:

Hey everyone!!

i just found this video on the net, and when i watched it, it was a little weird because if u watch the whole video,,,the plane nose almost opposite of the runway heading, now i dont think that is a crosswind landing video, because i have seen bad ones!!
just take a look at it....i would love u hear what u guys think

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HEehSpiT5...%20landing%20KLM%20747%20Amsterdam

Fiaz

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User currently offlineMH1402 From Malaysia, joined Jun 2006, 123 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 16630 times:

It is a normal landing procedure in Hong Kong Kai Tak Airport


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User currently offlineCoronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1597 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 16531 times:

I don't know, Fiaz, what's more difficult. Reading text without capitalization or shooting an IGS approach to RWY 13 at the old Kai Tak airport.


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User currently offlineBritPilot777 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1075 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 16293 times:

That would have been a really nice video of the approach had the guy filming not screwed up at the end how much he zoomed in! Ah well

As stated already the approach is normal procedure at Kai Tak, Just looks as though they didn't turn in enough to line up properly. If you do a search of photos a Kai Tak you can see it happened a fair few times.

BritPilot777



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User currently offlineRICARIZA From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2391 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 16233 times:

All I know is that they are speaking Italian.. maybe AZ?


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User currently offlineKeego From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 16052 times:

Anyone else notice the Captian having a sneeky smoke before landing??  hot 

User currently offlineFlyboy14295 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 80 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 16030 times:

He was nervous  Big grin  Big grin


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User currently offlineXA744 From Mexico, joined Mar 2004, 734 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 16029 times:

Quoting RICARIZA (Reply 4):
All I know is that they are speaking Italian.. maybe AZ?

Yes Ricardo, it looks like an Alitalia MD11 to me.

Very easy going Italian crew, even the smoking by the skipper looks just fine !!!

The Italians are really very comfortable people !!!

Best regards



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User currently offlineZRHnerd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 15948 times:

It is a video of an AZ MD11 landing at Kai Tak, I have seen it before on a website, sadly I can't remember it.

User currently offlineSpacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3625 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 15923 times:

The best part of this video is that it's under the category of "Comedy".

Really bad camerawork, btw.

[Edited 2006-11-09 22:39:25]


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User currently offlineEGNR From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 508 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 15923 times:

Quoting RICARIZA (Reply 4):
All I know is that they are speaking Italian.. maybe AZ?

At 02:32 in the video, the captain uses the radio and identifies the flight as "Alitalia 177".



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User currently offlineWSOY From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 15874 times:

For comparison, I suppose everyone has seen this already (34 000+ views):
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=258406597762808482&q=md-11


User currently offlineJetMech From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 2696 posts, RR: 53
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 15413 times:

Quoting Fiaz (Thread starter):
plane nose almost opposite of the runway heading

G'day Fiaz  Smile , I think it was a case of bad camera work more then anything else. It did look like they overshot the turn and ended up a bit to the left of the centre-line, but the recovery seemed to be quite good and the landing itself seemed to be very smooth. Must have been the calming effect of that cigarette  bigthumbsup !



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User currently offlineSnaiks From Panama, joined Mar 2005, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 13333 times:

does anyone have kai taks approach chart_? it would be very good for me to have them

User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 12847 times:

Quoting EGNR (Reply 10):
At 02:32 in the video, the captain uses the radio and identifies the flight as "Alitalia 177".

I actually heard "Alitalia 1774".



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User currently offlineAirWillie6475 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 12529 times:

How hard is it to hold a camera steady? A perfectly good video ruined.

User currently offlineAA87 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 11916 times:

AirWillie6475, you understate. Criminal in my book. Jumpseat on a beautiful MD11 into Kai Tak, landing, the heart of the video, ripped out. Fortunately, I got to jump seat into the new airport once, before 911

User currently offlineRICARIZA From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2391 posts, RR: 26
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 10952 times:

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 14):
I actually heard "Alitalia 1774

Right.. I heard that too.



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User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7583 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 9153 times:

Out of curiosity, are the landing procedeures different at Kai Tak Vs. Chek Lap Kok? I havent been to Hong Kong in a long time, so I dont know.


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User currently offlineTjcab From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 330 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 9101 times:

Quoting Spacecadet (Reply 9):
"Really bad camerawork, btw".

you are right, I've seen this video a while back. What a wasted opportunity. Zoom out already!


User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3769 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 8316 times:

Quoting Coronado990 (Reply 2):
I don't know, Fiaz, what's more difficult. Reading text without capitalization or shooting an IGS approach to RWY 13 at the old Kai Tak airport.

You go, sweetheart!

Cheers
Mats



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User currently offlineVref5 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 8266 times:

Ahem... let's be nice and not jump all over the camera operator.

It's still something we can enjoy of a time gone by, shaky or not, and was a labor of love.

However, if any of you here has personally filmed a better video of the Kai Tak approach and landing, please do post the website link. Thanks.


User currently offlineVref5 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 8123 times:

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 18):
Out of curiosity, are the landing procedeures different at Kai Tak Vs. Chek Lap Kok? I havent been to Hong Kong in a long time, so I dont know.

Oh, they are.

Approach plates for both airports:

http://www.vatroc.org/english/charts/vhhh_new.htm

You'll recognize the old Kai Tak plate if you had looked closely at the video and compared it to the one at the link above.  Smile

Quoting Snaiks (Reply 13):
does anyone have kai taks approach chart_? it would be very good for me to have them

See above.


User currently offlineSlovacek747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7376 times:

That guy shouldn't be allowed to touch a video camera again.. what the hell is he trying to film during touchdown. The guy acts like he has Parkinson's disease or something.

Slovacek747


User currently offlineFrancoBlanco From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7188 times:

I liked the "Bank Angle" callout from the GPWS shortly before touchdown...

Sebastian


25 Wingedarrow : Alitalia has never had such a flight number on intercontinental commercial/pax routes, except at the time when they had Australia based crews operati
26 FPOST : This plane IS a Alitalia MD11: look at the throttle ( 3 engines) and MD ergonomy! Although Kai Tak is a very particular approach, hearing the "bank an
27 WSOY : Compare the view @2:24 and @3:06. Does it seem to you that there's a different person occupying the left hand seat at these times?
28 Leothedog : An airline pilot smoking a cigarette? While flying??? I'm surprised. I would have thought that would be a big no-no.
29 Ferret : Well there's 9 minutes of my life that I'll never get back.
30 Threepoint : Sure does. First guy was younger with a flop of brown hair, then the camera pans outside the windscreen and when it returns inside the cockpit, the b
31 Post contains links and images ZRHnerd : For all MD11 fans: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3341055849825848343&q=md-11
32 797 : Indeed they are Italian, AZ, MD-11 What an amazing experience to be able to land the most beautiful aircraft on such a hard runway! Especially on AZ!
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