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Delta/KLM Expands Codeshare Deal  
User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2884 times:

Delta announced today (10NOV06 that it'll offer additional 14 cities in Europe as codeshare using KLM plane effective 01DEC06.

These cities are:
Bremen
Aberdeen
Luxembourg
Riga
Bergen
Stavanger
Newcastle

All flight connections are within 5 hours from a DL AMS-bound flight.


KLM, since 29OCT06, has enjoyed access to additional 29 cities through Delta's codeshare via JFK and Atlanta. The 28 new cities are within US, plus 1 to Santiago de Chile, complementing service via Paris operated by AF.

16 of 28 cities are brand new to KLM.

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User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5432 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 2798 times:

I guess we should see JFK-AMS by next summer.


I love long German words like 'Freundschaftsbezeigungen'.
User currently offlineRwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3103 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 2771 times:

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 1):
I guess we should see JFK-AMS by next summer.

We already do.


User currently offlineJammin From India, joined Nov 2006, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2688 times:

Is this really a big deal when code-shares are announced within an airline alliance? I mean, right now can't someone fly AMS-ATL-SCL without it being specifically a KL codeshare or say CDG-EWR-HNL on AF/CO? Or is it because, some customers will only fly flight numbers with their airline? But, they are informed it's operated by a partner, right...

I guess what I'm asking is, doesn't joining an alliance give your customers access to everyone else's flights in that alliance? Why the need for a specific code-share?



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User currently offlineJano From Slovakia, joined Jan 2004, 827 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2613 times:

Quoting Jammin (Reply 3):
I guess what I'm asking is, doesn't joining an alliance give your customers access to everyone else's flights in that alliance? Why the need for a specific code-share?

I found that typically it's easier to book airline A flights if an airline A is codesharing on airline B flights.



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User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2480 times:

Quoting Jammin (Reply 3):
I guess what I'm asking is, doesn't joining an alliance give your customers access to everyone else's flights in that alliance? Why the need for a specific code-share?

It's easier to see the same airline code appears from a via b to c.

otherwise finding KL flight from a to b then check DL flight from b to c can be a hassle and troublesome eventhough they're in the same alliance and under alliance availability look up.


User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5432 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2406 times:

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 2):
We already do.

Oops. I looked for the flight and somehow missed it.

I was in AMS in May and it's getting really crowded compared to a few years ago. Hope they can avoid the crowds and delays of other overstuffed airports.



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User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2353 times:

Quoting Jimyvr (Thread starter):
14 cities in Europe



Quoting Jimyvr (Thread starter):
These cities are:
Bremen
Aberdeen
Luxembourg
Riga
Bergen
Stavanger
Newcastle

I count 7.


User currently offlineDL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2093 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2335 times:

Quoting Jimyvr (Thread starter):
14 cities in Europe



Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 7):
I count 7.

The press release cited states 14 new codeshare flights...not cities.


User currently offlineJammin From India, joined Nov 2006, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2201 times:

Quoting Jimyvr (Reply 5):
It's easier to see the same airline code appears from a via b to c.

Makes sense.

Another question on code-sharing: Does DL get the same revenue from a customer flying DL metal from ATL-CDG versus on a DL code-share on AF metal?



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User currently offlineHaggis79 From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 1096 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 2003 times:

Quoting Jammin (Reply 9):
Another question on code-sharing: Does DL get the same revenue from a customer flying DL metal from ATL-CDG versus on a DL code-share on AF metal?

no answer on this one...? I'd be interested, too....



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User currently offlineGoldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1843 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1989 times:

Quoting Jammin (Reply 9):
Does DL get the same revenue from a customer flying DL metal from ATL-CDG versus on a DL code-share on AF metal?

No (AFAIK). In case of a DL ticket for a code-shared flight operated by AF, DL earns just a small portion of the ticket price (the majority goes to AF to pay for fuel, F/A, pilots, food, taxes, etc, which sounds logical).


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