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First Dba B737-300 In Full Air Berlin Colors  
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6808 posts, RR: 77
Posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7179 times:

The first dba B737-300 (D-ADIA) has received Air Berlin's full livery. The question is whether it also carries the odd "powered by dba" slogan?

http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/viewphoto.main?LC=&picid=3287


PH


Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
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User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2901 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7141 times:

And here's the second aircraft, D-ADIB:
http://www.flugzeugbilder.de/show.php?id=553635

It doesn't carry any DBA slogan at all, as far as I can see. I thought it's necessary by law to put a small "operated by" sticker if the aircraft is operated by a different airline than the livery the aircraft is operated in???


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6808 posts, RR: 77
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7132 times:

Thanks for the other link!

Quoting Ndebele (Reply 1):
I thought it's necessary by law to put a small "operated by" sticker if the aircraft is operated by a different airline than the livery the aircraft is operated in???

Good question - probably someone can elaborate on that. I only hope they won't use anything similar to the awful "powered by Condor" slogan...


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineGodBless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2752 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7093 times:

Quoting Ndebele (Reply 1):
I thought it's necessary by law to put a small "operated by" sticker if the aircraft is operated by a different airline than the livery the aircraft is operated in???

That is new to me. But what is the case then when an airline has no markings at all? The C9 735 comes to mind there...

Max


User currently offlineLindy Field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3120 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7071 times:
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I was interested to see if there would be a DBA sticker by the nose of the plane like there is on the Air Berlin Fokkers which are operated by Germania. Perhaps these have just not yet been applied yet? And most important, will Air Berlin carry on the DBA tradition of giving passengers a heart-shaped chocolate?

User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2901 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6852 times:

D-ADIF, which left the paintshop on Friday:
http://www.flugzeugbilder.de/show.php?id=556781

D-ADIA/B/F have all been painted at IGS, however D-ADIG has been flown to EMA for painting earlier this week.


User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 6777 times:

Air Berlin seriously needs a logo/cs update. It's so BORING !

User currently offlineAMSSFO From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 952 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 23 hours ago) and read 6639 times:

When will the first Fokker 100 be repainted? If they ever will.

User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2901 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6506 times:

Quoting AMSSFO (Reply 7):
When will the first Fokker 100 be repainted? If they ever will.

D-AGPH has been sent to the paintshop today.

I just wonder why they chose for D-AGPH instead of D-AGPP, which looks a bit unprofessionally-repainted at the moment:
http://www.flugzeugbilder.de/show.php?id=558551


User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7063 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6481 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 6):
Air Berlin seriously needs a logo/cs update. It's so BORING !

Do you think so ? I think it is quite nice and different from all the other "all-white" airlines we see flying around.



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User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7063 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6476 times:

In other news:

Rumor in a German spotter forum is that AB will acquire 4 Boeing 757 next year:


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User currently offlineUshermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2965 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6387 times:

I flew on D-ADIB on Monday. Nice on the outside, but the inside looked pretty old. No stickers on the plane though.
What I did find odd though was that they did not say it was an Air Berlin flight powered by dba, which it claimed in Air Berlin's inflight mag. Weird, since it was a sub for a "real" Air Berlin flight with Air Berlin catering.



Where have all the tri-jets gone...
User currently offlineAMSSFO From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 952 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6308 times:

Quoting Ndebele (Reply 8):
I just wonder why they chose for D-AGPH instead of D-AGPP, which looks a bit unprofessionally-repainted at the moment:
http://www.flugzeugbilder.de/show.php?id=558551

Maybe it's just for a short-term lease??  Confused

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User currently offlineTheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3590 posts, RR: 29
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6276 times:

Do not forget all these Fokker 100s in Germany come from the same operator, Germania, anyway... They were used for AB, HLX, DBA and so on. When DBA still served THF, they were both flying F100s with Gexx and DBA scheme there.

The one seen above uses the HLX paint scheme, indeed not really a typical DBA scheme, but a beautiful livery indeed.

I think it is better to save money by not repainting every single week.


User currently offlinePetertenthije From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 3369 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6260 times:

Quoting AMSSFO (Reply 7):
When will the first Fokker 100 be repainted? If they ever will.

28/11/06 D-AGPR is expected at Aviation Cosmetics at EIN.
03/12/06 D-AGPA is expected at Aviation Cosmetics at EIN.



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User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2901 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 6102 times:

D-AGPH is back from the paintshop:
http://www.flugzeugbilder.de/show.php?id=562040


User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2595 posts, RR: 29
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5991 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 6):
Air Berlin seriously needs a logo/cs update. It's so BORING !

They freshened it up a few years ago by replacing the grey with white. I think it is quite a unique colourscheme and rather like it. Much better than what it would probably be if they changed it - white with big 'airberlin.com' titles I bet.


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5973 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 6):
Air Berlin seriously needs a logo/cs update. It's so BORING !

It's still much better than what DBA came up with for a colourschme when they ceased to be Deutsche BA.


User currently offlineFraport From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 5931 times:

Quoting AMSSFO (Reply 12):
Quoting Ndebele (Reply 8):
I just wonder why they chose for D-AGPH instead of D-AGPP, which looks a bit unprofessionally-repainted at the moment:
http://www.flugzeugbilder.de/show.php?id=558551


Maybe it's just for a short-term lease??

Well it has been leased by HLX as you can see. End of November HLX returned both Fokkers back to the lessor Germania. Germania obviously leased it immediately to dba. So, to answer your question: I don't think it's a short-term lease because HLX won't take them back.


User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2901 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5782 times:

D-AGPJ:
http://www.flugzeugbilder.de/show.php?id=564169

D-AGPR:
http://www.flugzeugbilder.de/show.php?id=564370

D-AGPO is at IGS for painting.


User currently offlinePADSpot From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5681 times:

So what is the combined DBA/AB fleet now?

  • 19 F100 (14 ex-DBA, 2 ex-HLX, 3 AB)
  • 15 B733 (ex-DBA)
  • 5 B734
  • 5 B73G
  • 35 B738
  • 4 A319
  • 11 A320

quite a mix if you ask me ...


User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5665 times:

Quoting Columba (Reply 10):
In other news:

Rumor in a German spotter forum is that AB will acquire 4 Boeing 757 next year:

Only rumors. They seem to aquire two 738 and two 73G (some from Air Astana) according to the forum at www.jet737.de (lot's of insider knowledge but in German only).

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 6):
Air Berlin seriously needs a logo/cs update. It's so BORING !

So you only fly an airline b/c of the paint-sheme? When looking at the pax records AB has every month the sheme can't be too bad. But IMO it looks better on the 737 than on the Airbus fleet.

Georg


User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2901 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5631 times:

Quoting PADSpot (Reply 20):
# 19 F100 (14 ex-DBA, 2 ex-HLX, 3 AB)
# 15 B733 (ex-DBA)
# 5 B734
# 5 B73G
# 35 B738
# 4 A319
# 11 A320

The 734s have left the fleet, as far as I know. But you forgot DBA's 735 which is still in service.

By the way, D-AGPA has been repainted as well:
http://www.flugzeugbilder.de/show.php?id=564244


User currently offlinePADSpot From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 5592 times:

Quoting Ndebele (Reply 22):
The 734s have left the fleet, as far as I know.

They are still registered with AB, but I could not find any pictures later than 10/06. Maybe stored before they leave for freighter conversion ... ?

Quoting Ndebele (Reply 22):
But you forgot DBA's 735 which is still in service.

OY-APL is a little strange. I don't know the exact status.


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6808 posts, RR: 77
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5496 times:

Quoting PADSpot (Reply 23):
They are still registered with AB, but I could not find any pictures later than 10/06. Maybe stored before they leave for freighter conversion ... ?

D-ABAH is still active, D-ABAK and D-ABAL are already registered with BlueBird, D-ABAI is parked at BUD and also destined for BlueBird, D-ABAM is parked at HAM and destined for LAT Charter.

Quoting PADSpot (Reply 23):
OY-APL is a little strange. I don't know the exact status.

Still active.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
25 TriStar500 : No B734 is flying for AB any longer, so the "active" status of D-ABAH is only an academic value.
26 PlaneHunter : According to ATDB it is still active. Would be interesting to know whether it has definitely left the fleet or is still kept as backup aircraft. PH
27 PADSpot : Ok, then here the updated fleet 19 F100 (14 ex-DBA, 2 ex-HLX, 3 AB) 15 B733 (ex-DBA) 1 B735 5 B73G 35 B738 4 A319 11 A32071 frames total.
28 TriStar500 : According to a source directly at AB, it is no longer flying for the airline.
29 Lindy Field : How many of the new combined Air Berlin are actually leased from Germania? And what exactly is the story with OY-APL? Is it just a short-term lease?
30 PlaneHunter : Which raises the question about (ex-)D-ABAH's current status. PH
31 PADSpot : All of the 19 F100. Maybe it was planned as such, but it now flies for DBA since more than 2.5 years (with minor interruptions) without ever receivin
32 TriStar500 : D-ABAH was ferried to BUD for a D-check on November 9.
33 PADSpot : *sigh* I flew on her PAD-SOU on 9th Nov 2003. Exactly three years before she left AB ...
34 Post contains links and images Jorge1812 : Definately no AB 734 in service anymore (just had my g/f look-up in the Flight system). Did a BUD-BUD flight today. Because it's wearing the Hannover
35 Post contains images Columba : I have heard that by now. Too bad the 757 would be a nice change and it would have looked pretty good in AB livery. I know this forum and read there
36 Post contains images Douglasdc10 : OY-APL has been flying for DBA for over three years now, so it seems that it is a long-term lease now . It was leased from Maersk together with sister
37 PADSpot : Was is cabin crew? Then i know why: It's the shortest ... short aisles!
38 Post contains links AMSSFO : Accroding to http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.main?LC=nav4&page=4 D-AGPP was registered XA-SHL and ferried TXL-KEF on December 13th in basic HLX
39 TriStar500 : One should have expected the F-100 to be their favorite -or is that type exclusively crewed by ST staff?
40 DouglasDC10 : The Fokkers are wet-leased by ST with full ST crew. Regards DouglasDC10
41 AMSSFO : Very soon, it was ferried TXL-KEF on December 14th as XA-SHK in basic HLX c/s
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