PlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6191 posts, RR: 79 Posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 24315 times:
British Airways has started to retire the ex-British Caledonian A320s, with G-BUSD (msn 011) awaiting part-out at Lasham. It's also the first time for an A320-100 frame to be scrapped.
PlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6191 posts, RR: 79 Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 24292 times:
Quoting RedChili (Reply 1): How about G-BUSI? BUSI was one of the ex-Caledonian A320s and the second A320 that I ever flew with (the first was D-AIPC).
G-BUSI is a -211 model and planned to be retired by BA in 2008.
Speedbirdie From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 899 posts, RR: 56 Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 24112 times:
NOOOO this is terrible news...
I have yet to fly BUSB, the oldest in our fleet...
Im actually quite upset at this news. As much as they are old and falling apart, they are classic...
Who is but the form following the function of what, and what I am, is a Woman in a mask..
PlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6191 posts, RR: 79 Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 24110 times:
According to ATDB all remaining four A320-111s and the five A320-211s are planned to leave BA's fleet in 2008. Would be interesting to know whether there's a particular reason for taking out G-BUSD earlier.
Speedbirdie From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 899 posts, RR: 56 Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 24085 times:
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 7): According to ATDB all remaining four A320-111s and the five A320-211s are planned to leave BA's fleet in 2008. Would be interesting to know whether there's a particular reason for taking out G-BUSD earlier.
Yes, BUSB has has more problems than any other 111 in the fleet. Ill try and find out some information on that..
Maybe ill still get to fly on BUSB before she goes then..
Who is but the form following the function of what, and what I am, is a Woman in a mask..
Philb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 14 Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 24059 times:
Maybe Slovacek747 is just in shock since last Tuesday. Let's hope it continues!
As for the 100 srs A320s, considering that at the time BA didn't really want the aircraft, (as they didn't want the DC10s) they certainly put both types to good use, made plenty of money from them and, no doubt like the DC10, many at BA will regret them going.
It would be interesting to know the cycles/hours on the frames as they seem too young to be being dismantled.
I presume there is more value in the spares than the whole airframe.
UK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2550 posts, RR: 33 Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 24031 times:
As daft as it may sound, I wonder whether it has occured to BA to donate one or more of these aircraft for preservation.
I'm sure that the likes of the Manchester Aviation Viewing Park would like to get their hands on such an aircraft, and the A320-100 series is the rare forerunner of the ever successful A320-200. It is similar to the B737-100 in that respect and sadly even Lufthansa did not try and save one of their old -100s.
If anyone reading this is 'in' with a preservation society, why not suggest this before it is too late?!
PlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6191 posts, RR: 79 Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 23985 times:
Quoting Speedbirdie (Reply 13): BUSB is the oldest and has had more problems, thats why im wondering why BUSB hasn't been scrapped first. Thats what i was trying to say..
Ok, thanks for clarification. Can you elaborate a bit on the problems?
UK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2550 posts, RR: 33 Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 23984 times:
Can anyone at BA tell me whether there are certain routes which specifically see -100 service? I would like to take a flight on one of these rare birds before it is too late.
Also, are Air France still flying their -100s? If not, what happened to them?
GDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 12715 posts, RR: 80 Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 23956 times:
The term 'reclaimed for spares' is preferred!
These very early production are about the highest time A320's flying, having entered BA service in 1988.
They also lack commilarity with the A319/320/321's in the fleet since 1999, which Slovacek747, we are keeping.
Considering how long they were a cuckoo in the nest fleet wise, how often, in the early days after we got them from BCAL, their sale was considered, they've had a long and successful career with BA.
I would suggest they were never sold then, since they were such a good aircraft, the most modern in fleet for many years too.
Speedbirdie From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 899 posts, RR: 56 Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 23956 times:
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 14): Ok, thanks for clarification. Can you elaborate a bit on the problems?
Id rather not lol...
Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 15): Can anyone at BA tell me whether there are certain routes which specifically see -100 service? I would like to take a flight on one of these rare birds before it is too late
You will find these doing quite a lot of european work. I flew on one back from Milan the other day, Prague is also popular with the old buses and they also carry a lot of domestic flights.
KC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 11711 posts, RR: 52 Reply 17, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 23762 times:
I seem to remember that an A-320 was scrapped last year, in Florida. So, would this be the second A-320 scrapped?
Dogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 23692 times:
Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 15): Can anyone at BA tell me whether there are certain routes which specifically see -100 service? I would like to take a flight on one of these rare birds before it is too late.
I have seen them being used on the EDI-LHR route before. I think they are scattered all over aren't they?
Philb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 14 Reply 23, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 23723 times:
Quoting Timboflier215 (Reply 24): Oh right, yes sorry. Guess I failed to make the connection between American election results and BA retiring an A320. Silly me!
Well, if you wish to be obtuse and ignore replies 3,4 and 5 that's up to you.
26 N231YE: You're correct: Why Will This A-320 (5B-DAT) Be Scrapped? (by Jorge1812 Apr 12 2005 in Civil Aviation) And more: RE: A320's Now Being Scrapped! (by C
27 Baroque: When a plane like this is "scrapped", is there much that can be salvaged for use as spares for siblings that are still in service? Sorry if this aspec
28 Planesarecool: That was an A320-200 - G-BUSD is an A320-100, a much rarer species, only currently operated by British Airways and Air France. The following flights
29 PlaneHunter: AF still flies 13 A320-100s, no frame retired yet. Six of them are based at ORY and mostly fly on domestic routes, the others are used on the Europea
30 Edina: They're also used frequently on all LHR-Germany routes, FCO & NCE; but can also turn up on any flight ex T1.
31 Tom_EDDF: I've heard G-BUSH will be phased out on Jan 20, 2009
32 TristarSteve: Yes everything that is bolted on the aircraft can be removed and used on the other A320s. Most of the components can be used on BA A319 and A321 as w
33 LTU932: Curious, there were A320-200s which got scrapped before any of the Series 100 would meet the same fate. Anyone know why?
34 Etops1: these planes were built without winglets am i correct ?
35 Jetset7E7: I flew on G-BUSD MAN-LHR in April, a bit of shame thats its gone now. A bit of a mystery why its been withdrawn and parted out before SB and SC. I had
36 LTU932: Only the -100s don't have the wingtip fences. The -200s, in this case, the ex BCal -211s, do have wingtip fences.
37 Birdwatching: I'm flying LGW-MAN on BA2910 on November 24, how are my chances of flying on a dash 100? Soren
38 Shamrock_747: Zero. It's not all bad though, you will be on another of BA's classic fleet - the wonderful Boeing 737! Or there's a very slim chance you'll be on an
39 Planesarecool: Zilch. The only A320's in BA colours flying from LGW are those flying for GB Airways, to leisure destinations. Your flight is scheduled to be a B737-
40 Birdwatching: Well, thanks for the info! That's certanly another classic to look forward to! Soren
41 Climb1: This is indeed sad news. Im not that much of an expert on the series 100 so can someone please elaborate for me what is meant by this? Whats so differ
42 TristarSteve: The biggest difference is that the -100 has lower certificated weights. We have problems with the MZFW quite regularly. Full load of pax and you can
43 Gkirk: Look forward to a B737-800 in BA colours at LGW
44 G-CIVP: At a guess G-BUSD had more cycles on the clock than G-BUSB, hence it's getting withdrawn from use first. Yes, I probably stating the obvious!
46 AutoThrust: Really sad, a A320-100 model being scrapped. This plane was a revolution and way ahead his time. Lets hope Air France will keep their -100 model a lit
47 Ncelhr: Those are still flying on their "La Navette" services, from CDG & ORY to TLS, NCE, etc. By now they must have an astronomical number of cycles!
48 VV701: I believe that G-BUSD's last revenue flight was on 30 August and that it was ferried LHR-GLA on 31 August for decommissioning. Can anyone confirm or c
49 Philb: G-BUSE was at Shannon this weekeng crew training.
50 BrightCedars: I flew a BA A320-100 BRU-LHR back in the mid-nineties! Actually I believe it was my first ever flight on an Airbus!
51 CRJ900: I too have flown on BA's A320-100, but I didn't really notice any vast differences from the A320-200. The rear galley was different, as one lav is on
52 BA777ER236: Yes, but not from the flight crew perspective - it's all one fleet at LHR. Two of the main reasons for specific route allocation are: The catering eq
53 TristarSteve: BA does not use pallets on A319/320/321. They have containers on ALL A320 and A321. On the A319 a cargo loading system is installed but not used. The
54 PlaneHunter: At least they haven't published a retirement schedule yet. Probably some AF insiders know more about that? PH
55 Lazyshaun: What will these a/c be replaced with? If all A320-111 are being phased out in 2008, will they be replaced with the newly ordered 3 A321 and 1 A320?
56 BA777ER236: I was obviously thinking of the 319 then and should have said 'containers', it's over 2 years since I left the fleet, and my memory is clearly failin
57 TristarSteve: USD last flight was BA573 MXP-LHR on 27 Oct. It was ferried LHR-QLA on 6 Nov. USD has 26238 cycles and 33018 hrs USB has 26551 cycles and 33475 hrs.
58 Scarebus03: The main differences are: As Tristar Steve says are the lower weights. The -100 has no centre tank. No wingtip fences. Uses the old type toilet system
59 PlaneHunter: Two A320s will be delivered in 2007, five A320s in 2008. No date set yet for the three A321s. PH
60 Trintocan: This is sad - the first BA A320 to go to the grave. BA indeed inherited the fleet of 5 -100s and 5 -200s in 1988 so this plane has had a lifespan of 1
61 VV701: Many thanks for the correction: and the additional data:
62 A340600: Look forward for a long time and in your dreams. Won't happen. In fact, I think LGW will be a shadow of its current self in a couple of years once le
63 Ncelhr: I was in LGW the other day and saw a BA A320 in the middle of their 735 fleet. Looks like times are-a-changing...
64 Planesarecool: It would have been a GB Airways aircraft. They base around 12 A320/321's at Gatwick and operate flights mainly to leisure destinations across the Med
65 Trintocan: Well, now we see that another BA first in the scrapping league is about to occur. An ex-BA 777-200A is due to be scrapped - the first 777 to be broken
66 Planesarecool: Not necesarily - GB Airways are leasing an XLA B737-800 next year, so it may appear in the full BA colours.
67 G-CIVP: Tristar Steve - indeed you are correct, G-BUSD was in need of a D check and apparently it's uneconomical to be undertaken.
68 NA: Cyprus AW 5B-DAT (the first A320 scrapped last year) A. West N644AW A. West N646AW NW N302US NW N306US NW N307US (49.931 total flying hours, 21.946 c
69 PlaneHunter: N644AW is still flying. N645AW and N646AW were scrapped. N645AW: 45150 hours, 19726 cycles N646AW: 44462 hours, 18169 cycles 5B-DAT first flew in Dec
72 AirbusA346: Why is this 1 being scrapped?? Tom.
73 AirplaneFan: I don't know why is being scrapped. I just thought of posting the pic because it was recently added and Anet. member, NA, was wondering if this parti
75 N1120A: Not really. Given the fact that WN has not yet retired its first 733, which entered service in 1984, and that there are many 1982 vintage 762s and 75
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