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User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 3021 posts, RR: 11
Posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 5751 times:

Hey guys, if this had been discussed before, please feel free to delete this toppic. I already did a search without success. anyway...

I came along this trip report of a.netter Ndebele Uniting Nations - Swiss A330 To GVA, With Pics (by Ndebele Jan 28 2006 in Trip Reports)

My question is, are there any other scheduled intra-European or deomestic flights operated with wide-bodies? LH do with A306 and BA with B767. But are there any other? I heard about IB MAD-FRA with A346 some times ago. Is this information still existent?

Thx for all replies.
Cheers
Ori

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User currently offlineAcabgd From Serbia, joined Jul 2005, 666 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 5726 times:

Back in the "good old days" and not so distant past, Jat Airways used to fly the DC-10-30 (YU-AMB) on summer flights BEG-TIV. Tivat approach can be very challenging, it was really special to see the DC-10 land there.

I flew once TIV-BEG on this beauty and we truly rocketed out at takeoff.

Very often the plane was also used on the high-load route BEG-ZRH.



CSud,D9,MD8x,D10,Trid,BAC1,A30,31,319,320,321,33,346,B71,72,73,74,75,76,77,L10,S20,A42,A72,T13,T15,F50,F70,F100,B146
User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 5725 times:

KLM flies the morning flight in weekdays to LHR from AMS with the a330...
Also IB flies to Tenerife Norte with the a346.



L1011,733,734,73G,738,743,744,752,763,772,77W,DC855,DC863,DC930,DC950,MD11,MD88,306,319,320,321,343,346,ARJ85,CR7,E195
User currently offlineZRHnerd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 5677 times:

LX flies A340/330s on the early and/or mid morning flights to LHR.

User currently offlineHBJZA From Switzerland, joined Jan 2006, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 5636 times:

Quoting ZRHnerd (Reply 3):
LX flies A340/330s on the early and/or mid morning flights to LHR.

In this case it's because on the high load factor they have on those flights.
But for the GVA-ZRH or ZRH-GVA, it's in the only purpose of ferrying the plane that does the JFK flight.


User currently offlineIvo From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 470 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 5629 times:

Air France used A300 & A310 domestic and intra European
Air Inter also used A300 and later A330-300.

Ivo


User currently offlineSfuk From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 5625 times:

OA sometimes use the A340 to LHR.

User currently offlineHBJZA From Switzerland, joined Jan 2006, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 5625 times:

During winter, Monarch uses sometimes the A300-600 from the UK and used to fly with the DC-10.

Britannia Airways (thomson fly) also uses the 767-300ER !! from UK


User currently offlineAfay1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1293 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 5570 times:

Aeroflot occasionally has the IL96/767 to London from SVO, and BA has a 767 from London to DME.

User currently offlineAlexPorter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 5567 times:

Aer Lingus has an A330 from DUB to SNN. Icelandair has a B763 from KEF to CDG, or at least does in the summer.

User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 5558 times:

Two more:

- LA flies MAD-FRA-MAD with the A343
- LT flies some DUS-MUC-DUS flights with the A330

Patrick


User currently offlineBx737 From Ireland, joined Sep 2001, 687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 5528 times:

In Summers, EI also uses A330s on routes from DUB-NCE and DUB-AGP

User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 5505 times:

Quoting Stylo777 (Thread starter):
I heard about IB MAD-FRA with A346 some times ago. Is this information still existent?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that flight was likely a football charter for the World Cup.

Quoting Afay1 (Reply 8):
Aeroflot occasionally has the IL96/767 to London from SVO

Same in HAM, only just the IL96. It's a welcome change from the usual Tupolev or A319.


User currently offlineUpperDeck79 From Finland, joined Feb 2005, 1139 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 5480 times:

Finnair Flying A343 Domestic Again (by UpperDeck79 Nov 2 2006 in Civil Aviation)


AY and ANA rock!
User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1453 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 5364 times:

TK flies 330s and 340s to several cities in Europe especially summer (DUS, FRA, LHR, ORY, ZRH, LYS, AMS, GVA have all seen these aircraft). TK also flies them on high demand domestic routes to BJV, DLM, AYT or ESB.


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User currently offlineHBJZA From Switzerland, joined Jan 2006, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 5283 times:

Quoting HBJZA (Reply 7):
During winter, Monarch uses sometimes the A300-600 from the UK and used to fly with the DC-10.

Britannia Airways (thomson fly) also uses the 767-300ER !! from UK

Sorry, I forgot to mention that it was for their flights to GVA


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7428 posts, RR: 57
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 5277 times:

Quoting Ivo (Reply 5):
Air Inter also used A300 and later A330-300.

Air Inter operated a fleet up to 22 Airbus A300 (314 Y) and 4 A330 (412 Y )on its French domestoc Network.

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In 1988/89 Air Inter even wet leased from AF a B747-100 (F-BPVD). It was operated on the biggest routes from ORY (to MRS, BOD, NCE and TLS).
Air Inter almost bought 3 second hand B747SR from JAL, but finally decided to add more A300 to its fleet instead.

As mentionned previously, Air France operated a large fleet of A300 & A310 on its European network until the late 90s.
B747 were also sometimes used on the busiest CDG-LHR route, as shown on this pic. :

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AF is still using sometimes a B744 on flights such as CDG-NCE during hight peak season or special events (Cannes Film Festival, Monte Carlo Grand-Prix ) and also on CDG-AJA, during the summer season.


User currently offlineOV735 From Estonia, joined Jan 2004, 920 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 5277 times:

A few years ago, Aeroflot used to fly Il-86's from Moscow to key European destinations (Frankfurt, Paris, London, Milan, etc). Don't know if they do anymore.

User currently offlineZrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3222 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 5261 times:

Thai flies teh 747-400 FCO-MAD-FCO

I believe Singapore still has the 747-400 ZRH-MAN-ZRH

For a long time, Varig flew LHR-CPH-LHR on the MD-11, as well as CDG-AMS-CDG



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User currently offlineAirtrainer From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 1559 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 5261 times:

Quoting Kappel (Reply 2):
Also IB flies to Tenerife Norte with the a346

I flew TFN-MAD in march and it was on a 744... Did they change for the A346 since ?



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User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 811 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 5243 times:

CY fly A330 to mainly to LHR but also to AMS, CDG, ATH and MAN.


CY@Uk
User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 5217 times:

TP A310 on LIS-ORY-LIS .A330 / L15 / 747 in the past.
TK A310/330/340 on IST-ORY-IST
IB A343/346 on MAD-ORY-MAD.DC10 in the past.
BA L10 / 747 / 767 on LHR-CDG-LHR in the past
LH A300/310/AB6 on FRA-CDG-FRA in the past
BCAL A310 on LGW-CDG-LGW in the past.
AZ A300 on FCO-CDG-FCO , MXP-CDG-MXP in the past
SR A310 on ZRH-CDG-ZRH , GVA-CDG-GVA in the past
OA A300/AB6/340/ 747 on ATH-ORY (CDG)-ATH
SU IL86/A310 on SVO-CDG-SVO , LED-CDG-LED in the past
VA DC10 MAD-ORY-MAD in the past
AM DC10 MAD-ORY-MAD in the past
LA DC10 MAD-ORY-MAD in the past
SK DC10 CPH-LBG-CPH , occasionnally in the past
Laker DC10 ORY-NCE-ORY in the past for IT strike


User currently offlinePhilb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 13
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 5196 times:

Interesting how times change. Going back 15-20 years the following airlines all used widebodies for scheduled flights/sectors within Europe. Not all the sectors were operated under Fifth Freedom rights.

The list does not include charter carriers of the time, some of the types were used regularly only on peak day or peak hour flights to replace the scheduled types to cater for heavy loads, e.g. Iberia DC10s on the teatime flight into Heathrow from Madrid:

Aeroflot IL86
Aer Lingus B747
Aerolineas Argentinas B747
Air France A300 A310
Air Inter A300
Alitalia A300 DC10
Air Portugal A310 L1011
Bangladesh DC10
British Airways B747 B767 L1011
Finnair A300 DC10
Iberia A300 DC10
Iran Air B747
Japan Air B747
JAT DC10
KLM A310 DC10
Kenya A310
Lufthansa A300 A310
Olympic A300 B747
Qantas B747
Sabena A310 B747
SAS DC10 B747
Singapore AL B747
Swissair A310 DC10
Syrian Air B747SP
THY DC10
UTA DC10

There were others which had short lived intra European sectors using wide bodies such as Air India, Ariana, Egyptair, Iraqi, Kuwait, Malaysian, Nigerian, Pakistani, Saudia, Thai.


User currently offlineGoldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1872 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 5088 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 16):
AF is still using sometimes a B744 on flights such as



Quoting FlySSC (Reply 16):
and also on CDG-AJA, during the summer season

to be precise, it's ORY-AJA


User currently offlineZRHnerd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 5078 times:

Quoting HBJZA (Reply 4):
In this case it's because on the high load factor they have on those flights

Did i claim anything else?  Smile


25 BuyantUkhaa : TP flies the A310 LIS-LHR. LT occasionally flies the A330 DUS-LIS (today for example)
26 HBJZA : No you didn't but it was to confirm what you said, in opposition to my following explanation. As to for the GVA-ZRH it's for aircraft positionning fo
27 Trinxat : Some input from/to BCN: BA flies every morning from LHR using a 762 IB uses quite often a 343 in afternoon "puente aéreo" vs. MAD SQ flies a T7 (i do
28 Homm : No, IB still uses 340's on that route, but only on sundays. IB 3507 12:35 15:05 A342 FRA-MAD
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