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Aeromexico Announces Flights To Austin, TX  
User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4960 times:

Looks like 4 weekly flights to get things going.

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...story/11-13-2006/0004472996&EDATE=

28 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineCun757 From Mexico, joined May 2004, 202 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4839 times:

It looks like AM wants to go all to international flights, and I think for them is beter cause to many new airlines in the local skyes, all flighrts to the same destinations, but national flights, and I think AM have to take this points that they have in favor and go all the way to the International skyes and leave the national to the new low and saturate cost flights...
What do you think aboutit...?
And now with Japan... They have to buy lots of big birds and go all the way... to all the world bringing the name of Mexico...
And AM have very good reputation outside Mexico, and they have to take also that as part of the years of good work...



757 forever
User currently offline102IAHexpress From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1156 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4816 times:

Good news for AUS. I think the route will do well.
Didn’t DFW have AM service at one time?


User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5554 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4810 times:

Good going for Austin on its first international service! I hope you folks there see lots more.

I do hope the AUS-MEX service lasts longer than AM's SAN-MEX service which started (most recently) in July 2005 and has been completely gone now for a month or 2; it was also applied for/announced to be started with 4x weekly but actually started with 2x. (I know, it's been tried before and TIJ is nearby...)

Quoting Cun757 (Reply 1):
It looks like AM wants to go all to international flights

I didn't see this comment supported in this linked article; are you sure this is correct, Cun? I find it a bit hard to believe that is the case.

bb

[Edited 2006-11-14 03:14:09]

User currently offlineJoseMEX From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 1539 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4803 times:

I hope it lasts longer than MX's previous MEX-AUS a few years ago.

User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 4013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4796 times:

Good for AUS, could not have happened to a nicer airport.

Thomas



"Show me the Braniffs"
User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4772 times:

Quoting Cun757 (Reply 1):
It looks like AM wants to go all to international flights, and I think for them is beter cause to many new airlines in the local skyes

I agree with you. I think some day Aeromexico will fly more passengers internationally than they do within Mexico.

Quoting JoseMEX (Reply 4):
hope it lasts longer than MX's previous MEX-AUS a few years ago.

COEX also tried this route.


User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4702 times:

Quoting SANFan (Reply 3):
I do hope the AUS-MEX service lasts longer than AM's SAN-MEX service which started (most recently) in July 2005 and has been completely gone now for a month or 2; it was also applied for/announced to be started with 4x weekly but actually started with 2x. (I know, it's been tried before and TIJ is nearby...)

Actually, SAN-MEX is returning next month as a 4x weekly service. Schedules are as follows:

Operational days: 1567

SAN 0820 737
MEX 1335

Operational days: 4567
MEX 1710 737
SAN 1850

Aaron G.


User currently offlineJetBlueAUS From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1145 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4697 times:

What gate with AM operate out of?


Not all of us can be heroes, some of us can only stand on the sidewalk and clap as they go by.
User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5554 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4638 times:

Quoting Trvlr (Reply 7):
Actually, SAN-MEX is returning next month as a 4x weekly service.

Hey Trvlr, thank you for that! Did you stumble on that on the website's flight sked's or was there a PR I missed? I love the times too; in the past, they've approached the flights from a MEX-business-traveler standpoint: lv MEX early morning and return out of Lindbergh late afternoon. This time, apparently they are trying it the other way around and I think it will do much better. (I wonder why they let the service die for a few months. I hope they aren't bringing it back just for the Holidays...)

bb


User currently offlineMyOthrCarsA777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 55 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4606 times:

Quoting SANFan (Reply 3):
Good going for Austin on its first international service! I hope you folks there see lots more.

Technically, this isn't AUS's first international service. For not long - maybe five months in 2000 - Air Canada operated a 1x daily AUS-YYZ with an A319. Disappointing results, but I maintain hopeful that one day this could work with an E170.


User currently offlineRojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2476 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4587 times:

Quoting JoseMEX (Reply 4):
I hope it lasts longer than MX's previous MEX-AUS a few years ago.

It was QA's venture into AUS with only two weekly flights (Thursdays and Sundays). Lets see if this time AM can make it work... My only concern is that AM should concentrate in either SAT or AUS, but not both, since they are quite close and it does not make sense to serve them both...

Quoting SANFan (Reply 9):
(I wonder why they let the service die for a few months. I hope they aren't bringing it back just for the Holidays...)

AM will not be successful in the MEX-SAN route until they tie the price and schedule strategy to the MEX-TIJ route (difficult for AM to achieve with its cost structure). I am a frequent traveler to the TIJ/SAN area and the convenience of many flights spread throughout the day and cheap tickets (thanks to multiple airlines competing) make me fly to TIJ, rent a car and cross the border. I was in SAN yesterday and it took me 25 minutes to get from Downtown to TIJ airport. I know sometimes it is a nightmare to cross the border, but if you know the peak hours and stay away from them, it is quite easy to go from TIJ to SAN and from SAN to TIJ.

Every time I fly MEX/TLC - TIJ between 40 and 60% of the passengers are going to SAN. I even have a coworker who lives in SAN, works in Mexico City and travels every weekend to San Diego to see his wife and kids, but uses TIJ instead of SAN because of schedule convenience. We also forget that in TIJ airport there are many bus companies that take you to SAN, LAX, Anaheim, Las Vegas, etc. and instead of using the same bus to drive all the way to your destination, they take you in one bus to the border, you walk through it (skip all traffic) and another bus is waiting for you to get you to your destination, so you don't have to wait hours to cross the border. If you add up everything, I don't see a market for AM in the MEX-SAN route. Even CO was not successful when the tried the route because yields were so low thanks to the TIJ factor!!


User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5554 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4490 times:

Quoting Rojo (Reply 11):
AM will not be successful in the MEX-SAN route until they tie the price and schedule strategy to the MEX-TIJ route

Thanx for the input Rojo.

Quoting SANFan (Reply 9):
In the past, they've [AM] approached the flights from a MEX-business-traveler standpoint: lv MEX early morning and return out of Lindbergh late afternoon. This time, apparently they are trying it the other way around.

I don't know if they are timing the flights this time more for the SAN market on purpose or what, but I suspect the flights will do better on this schedule. (BTW, the flights operate only from Dec 7 thru Feb 4. so they haven't returned permanently.) For what it's worth, the fare seems to be around $520 r/t.

There certainly is a huge market to MEX from SAN but of course you're right about TIJ; as I've said many times before, I find it interesting that AM even tries competing with themselves at all.

Finally, I can't help but wonder the results if an American carrier, e.g., CO (again), DL (unlikely), F9Smile ), etc., offered travelers an alternative.

bb


User currently offlineLt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4487 times:

Quoting Juventus (Reply 6):
COEX also tried this route.

Wasn't it from SAT ? I don't remember. There was also a short lived Frontier Cancun flight wasn't there?

Ciao, and Hook 'em Horns,
Capt-AWACS, I'd like to supersize that with a diet coke


User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4458 times:

Quoting Lt-AWACS (Reply 13):
Wasn't it from SAT ? I don't remember.

I'm sorry, I think you're right. It was SAT-MEX COEX flew, not AUS-MEX.


User currently onlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3345 posts, RR: 45
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4391 times:

Quoting JetBlueAUS (Reply 8):
What gate with AM operate out of?

I'd guess gate 2, because that is the gate with US customs.

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineCoronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1610 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4314 times:

First of all...congrats to AUS! Must be nice to something other than the usual domestic stuff.

Quoting Trvlr (Reply 7):
Actually, SAN-MEX is returning next month as a 4x weekly service. Schedules are as follows:

Operational days: 1567

SAN 0820 737
MEX 1335

Operational days: 4567
MEX 1710 737
SAN 1850

These flights must be a reliever segment during the high season for the SAN-SJD-MEX direct flight that departs less than an hour later.



Uncle SAN at your service!
User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2692 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4293 times:

What aircraft is being used on the route? MD80, 737-700, other?

User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5226 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4266 times:

Quoting SANFan (Reply 12):
For what it's worth, the fare seems to be around $520 r/t.

And why is that? Because there's people that pay to fly those outrageous fares! So people like Rojo or he's co-wo and more that frequently fly the route do all things possible to avoid paying a 500USD fare. But some others go full 520!!

ghost77 APM



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16335 posts, RR: 56
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4205 times:

Quoting SANFan (Reply 3):
Good going for Austin on its first international service!

Air Canada flew YYZ-AUS 319 service briefly around 2000.



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently onlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3345 posts, RR: 45
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4180 times:

Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 17):
What aircraft is being used on the route? MD80, 737-700, other?

737-700.

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7759 posts, RR: 25
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4146 times:

Quoting 102IAHexpress (Reply 2):
Didn’t DFW have AM service at one time?

Yeah, they left shortly after DL closed its hub. Since then MX has come in and taken their place. Now its a split market between AA and MX.

Good news for AUS. It was only a matter of time.



Stewed...Lewd...Crude...Irreverent...Belligerent
User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7616 posts, RR: 42
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4117 times:

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 21):
Now its a split market between AA and MX.

Good news for AUS. It was only a matter of time.

Well, split market yes, but clearly dominated by AA. AA flies 5x daily with MD-80's whereas MX flies 2x daily (is this right?) with A319's.

About all this 'AM goes to AUS' thing, I am not completely convinced. As Rojo mentioned, Austin and San Antonio are very, very near from each other and I am not sure it is a good idea to serve both airports. In any case, good luck to AM!!!



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineXAAPB From Mexico, joined Jan 2005, 445 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4087 times:

A bit out of topic, dose anyone knows why COEX quit the SAT-MEX and LRD-MEX routes, or are they are only operated seasonal?
I remember watching the announcement at the Continental ticket counters here in Mexico City and the flights where from SAT to MEX, LRD to MEX and MFE to MEX, now days the only flight that still operated is the MFE-MEX route.
So those anyone knows what happened to the other 2 flights?
Greetings



Jorge Meneses
User currently onlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3345 posts, RR: 45
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4083 times:

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 22):
About all this 'AM goes to AUS' thing, I am not completely convinced. As Rojo mentioned, Austin and San Antonio are very, very near from each other and I am not sure it is a good idea to serve both airports. In any case, good luck to AM!!!

Very near, yes (80 miles roughly). But, aside from a relatively small overlapping population, they are completely different cities, with completely different motives for serving. Not being racist, whatsoever, but San Antonio has a very large hispanic population, which would do well to have easier ties to Mexico. I'm sure they, in large part, keep that route alive, and even force AM to upgrade it to daily.

Austin, on the other hand, will benefit from the diplomatic connection between the capital of the state, and the capital of our southern neighbor. It also links the Central Texas high tech industry to one of the largest cities in the world, and a high tech customer. Austin, itself, also has a good sized hispanic population, as well as the University of Texas, which I'm sure creates a fair amount of demand also.

I know this route has been tried in the past, without much success, but here's to hoping AM operates this route well, and the business follows.

BTW, this reply may have come across as a little snooty, it was certainly not intended as such.  Smile Just defending my hometown!

Cheers,
Cameron


25 Rojo : Keep in mind that AA was not happy with MX's decision to step into the MEX-DFW route so AA does not codeshare on MX's flights and MX does codeshare o
26 Cun757 : All I want to say is that AM is thinking more and more on the international routes... And Im shure that there is the future of AM...
27 Post contains images Longhornmaniac : You do have a good point. San Marcos actually is only about 30 miles from AUS, whereas SAT is about 45, just FYI. The only thing that Austin can brag
28 EddieDude : As you all know (Mexican a.netters), you need to rent a car in San Antonio unless it is a very short trip and you stay at a hotel close to Northstar
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