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Airlines/Apple Up To Offer Ipod Integration  
User currently offlineFlyingDoctorWu From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 307 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5116 times:

Apple today announced it is teaming up with Air France, Continental, Delta, Emirates, KLM and United to deliver the first seamless integration between iPod and in-flight entertainment systems. These six airlines will begin offering their passengers iPod seat connections which power and charge their iPods during flight and allow the video content on their iPods to be viewed on the their seat back display....

In-flight iPod connectivity will be available to Air France, Continental, Delta, Emirates, KLM and United passengers beginning in mid-2007.

http://www.ipodnn.com/articles/06/11/14/ipod.airline.integration/

This is cool. It seems to me that what'll be availble is a USB port (a la Singapore airlines) that will recognize an attached ipod and allow access to the content and power the device. i wonder if Microsoft will uh encourage the airlines to allow access to their new Zune also (a la their encouragment to Universal music).

Finally, they have combined my two loves, Apple and Aviation. Now, too bad Connexion is closed because it means the end of iChatting at 35.000 Ft
Chris

[Edited 2006-11-14 15:17:46]

40 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineFA4B6 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5051 times:

This is awesome! I wish JetBlue would offer this. There are so many people that have an iPod and with our IFE, it would be awesome!

User currently onlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4763 posts, RR: 44
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5044 times:

cats outta the bag i guess! Knew about DL and AF, wasn't sure who the others were.


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User currently offlineThePalauan From Guam, joined Oct 2006, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5025 times:

SWEEET!!  bigthumbsup   cloudnine 


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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5019 times:

Very cool! Im tired of my ipod dying after a 3 hour flight and I have another city and segment to go  Sad


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User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3309 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5010 times:

I think it's a nifty idea, but 1) I can already charge my iPod if there's a DC power port available, and 2) I think I'd prefer to watch my movies on my smaller, yet higher definition iPod screen than on a larger, blurry, fuzzy, lower definition IFE screen.

Just my  twocents 



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User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 3008 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4982 times:

This is a very smart idea and a welcome development. I like to watch TV shows on my iPod when I travel, but currently need to bring a bulky external AA battery pack because otherwise the battery life is very poor. It would also be great to be able to use the seat-back screen--although the resolution of the iPod's screen is excellent, it is very small, and it can be hard to find a good viewing angle (I usually prop it up on the tray table using the external battery pack, which is a bit awkward).


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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6491 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4953 times:

Yeah, the iPod's video capability is the real winner here. You can have TV shows or movies (which ostensibly you could have copied onto the iPod yourself, or simply buy from iTunes) during a long trans-atlantic flight.


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User currently offlineN231YE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4902 times:

Microsoft is probably fuming: "what about our Zune player?"  biggrin 

User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8470 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4856 times:

OK,

We now have a light weight IFE solution for the 380. Pull those wires and bring in Apple Computer for a iPod/Mac wireless IFE system.  Smile


User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3826 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4852 times:

Quoting N231YE (Reply 8):
Microsoft is probably fuming: "what about our Zune player?"

I'm sure they're working on something with some airline to promote the Zune. Maybe it's JetBlue, as B6 has standardized on Microsoft everything for their IT needs... the whole company runs on Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP.



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User currently offlineWarreng24 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4840 times:

iPod videos can sometimes be very "sensitive." Is it going to be good to be able to watch those on the in-seat IFE screens?

I know that they have pornography available in iPod video format....


User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8034 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4819 times:

I'm surprised it took the airlines this long to offer iPod data connector connections on airline seats, especially since they could have done this at least a year ago with the arrival of the 1G (first generation) iPod nano and 5G (fifth generation) regular iPod models that used the data connector back then.

Well, at least now we can listen to podcasts recorded on the iPod and not worry about running out of battery charge!  bigthumbsup 


User currently offlineSirOmega From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 735 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4796 times:

All I need is a magsafe adapter now. I know Apple came out with their emPower adapter but it'd be nice just to have a magsafe adapter.

User currently offlineDartland From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 646 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4747 times:
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Quoting Warreng24 (Reply 11):
iPod videos can sometimes be very "sensitive." Is it going to be good to be able to watch those on the in-seat IFE screens?

I know that they have pornography available in iPod video format....

As opposed to now when you can bring a porno mag on board or watch a porn on your laptop or portable DVD player? No difference.


User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7810 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4725 times:

Quoting RayChuang (Reply 12):
I'm surprised it took the airlines this long to offer iPod data connector connections on airline seats

FWIW iPod integration for automobiles is also relatively new. From the simple line-in jacks/power ports, to the more advanced systems that let you control the iPod from the stereo head-unit.



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User currently offlineSkoker From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 440 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4687 times:

MacRumors has a good conversation going on about this:

http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/11/20061114093258.shtml

(click on the comments link)


User currently offlineMEACEDAR From Lebanon, joined Oct 2006, 753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4687 times:

Way to go, I knew when I read the topic that EK had something to do with it.

User currently offlineFlyingDoctorWu From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4665 times:

Quoting N231YE (Reply 8):
Microsoft is probably fuming: "what about our Zune player?"

I am sure that it'll only be a software update- it's likely that it'll be integrated via an usb port and that the user will be responsible for the integratign cable (aka standard ipod usb cable)

chris


User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6491 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4589 times:

Quoting FlyingDoctorWu (Reply 18):
am sure that it'll only be a software update- it's likely that it'll be integrated via an usb port and that the user will be responsible for the integratign cable (aka standard ipod usb cable)

I doubt it. The iPod plug is proprietary. Microsoft or its agents can't touch it.



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User currently offlineKilljoy From Finland, joined Dec 1999, 646 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4554 times:

This is retarded. There's no reason they couldn't just implement it using USB mass storage standards, yet they insist on using a proprietary connector to one brand of music player.

I can't wait until Bridgestone pays Toyota to start requiring Bridgestone tires...


User currently offlineWorldsurfer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4539 times:

I just hope its not like Itunes, everytime you open it up you get a message saying "A New Version of Itunes is available, would you like to download it "

User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6491 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4526 times:

Quoting Killjoy (Reply 20):
This is retarded. There's no reason they couldn't just implement it using USB mass storage standards, yet they insist on using a proprietary connector to one brand of music player.

I can't wait until Bridgestone pays Toyota to start requiring Bridgestone tires...

There are several reasons why your statement is unfounded. If they did it via USB, they would not able to control the iPod directly. They need to be able to do that because of FairPlay. The Zune would have the same issue with its Digital Rights Management (DRM) scheme. This is about more than just MP3 music where the player is just a big hard drive.

In this case, the big stick is video, and the movie and TV studios will require DRM. To do that requires that the integration be more than just a USB cable.



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User currently offlineKilljoy From Finland, joined Dec 1999, 646 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4513 times:

Quoting N328KF (Reply 22):
There are several reasons why your statement is unfounded. If they did it via USB, they would not able to control the iPod directly. They need to be able to do that because of FairPlay. The Zune would have the same issue with its Digital Rights Management (DRM) scheme. This is about more than just MP3 music where the player is just a big hard drive.

In this case, the big stick is video, and the movie and TV studios will require DRM. To do that requires that the integration be more than just a USB cable.

Ah, so your solution would be to just leave everyone who doesn't use DRM behind? What a nice future we're heading for...


User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31394 posts, RR: 85
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4503 times:
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Quoting Killjoy (Reply 23):
Ah, so your solution would be to just leave everyone who doesn't use DRM behind? What a nice future we're heading for...

That is what the media companies and many artists indeed want.


25 N328KF : I didn't advocate it as my solution. I simply illustrated why a simple USB connection isn't doable. And your discussion is outside of the scope of iP
26 Killjoy : Ok, you're right. However, there's still another solution: Use a DVI connector instead. Any device, using DRM or not, could decode the video by itsel
27 DesertJets : In part I think you have it backwards. It is not the airlines designing the systems to work exclusively w/ the iPod, but rather it is Apple that is d
28 N328KF : With 70% market share, I see most airlines either supporting the iPod or nothing. Why support a manufacturer with 5-10% market penetration of such a
29 Post contains links Thebry : Ummm... last time I checked, the iPod and iTunes worked with Windows XP. Can't say the reverse for Zune and their music marketplace. That stuff is ju
30 ATLflyer : Does anyone know if Delta and Continental will offer this in all classes? United's press release said they would offer it in First and Business class
31 Killjoy : OK, so use VGA instead of DVI. And a standard display connector would most certainly not have the IFE system decoding anything except the video signa
32 N328KF : Dude, VGA, DVI, what size devices do you think we're talking about here? The devices in question usually have a mini-phono plug for video--the iPod i
33 Killjoy : My point is that they wouldn't need to "support" any specific player if they just implemented some real standard instead. Then *everyone* could conne
34 Post contains links JoseMEX : Well, according to this press release, apparently at United it will be only be available for Business and First class customers: http://biz.yahoo.com/
35 FlyingDoctorwu : One end of the plug is proprietary. The other end is a USB connector. So the question is whether the airlines will be offering a "dock connector" at
36 N328KF : Since the announcement came from Apple, I would put money on it being a dock connector. And it has to be an iPod connector, since several articles me
37 FlyDeltaJets : Who doesn't use Windows for thier busness. I know Mac O/S ois better but as with iPod windows is the popular choice. I guess that if you are pround e
38 Centrair : This is great! I had a feeling this was coming. iPods hold 70% marketshare but can't go much further without new products and new options. It is rumor
39 RayChuang : I think it will be the full dock connector, too. That connector has been around for a couple of years and is used by most recent iPod models except f
40 ATLflyer : I wonder if Delta will eventually put this on their international flights too? It seems when they reconfigure the 767-400s with PTVs they should just
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