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Boeing's Orders For 11/15/06  
User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5676 posts, RR: 48
Posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 11651 times:

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm

Adds:
15 x 777 for UFO (GECAS)
1 x 787BBJ
1 x 777 for AF
12 x 737NG UFO

KLM - 6 x 737 from UFO
AM - 2 x 787 from UFO, 10 x 737 from UFO

829 gross orders, 822 net

[Edited 2006-11-16 17:01:23]


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User currently offlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 967 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 11656 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
1 x 787BBJ

This is very interested, i wounder for whom it is ordered


User currently offlineLY777 From France, joined Nov 2005, 2612 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 11656 times:

one 777 for AF?that's strange, certailly a 77W


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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5676 posts, RR: 48
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 11655 times:

Quoting LY777 (Reply 2):
one 777 for AF?that's strange, certailly a 77W

Probably exercising an option which will be used for expansion.



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User currently offlineJayinKitsap From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 769 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 11661 times:

Unidentified certainly has big growth plans. Seriously, it seems unusual that 15% of their orders are unidentified this year. Does anyone recall how many UFO's there were in 2005.

Will Boeing reach 1,000 orders this year, they will have to have a great last 1.5 months to get there.

For the year (orders thru 11-15, deliveries thru Oct):

Model Orders Deliveries Ratio
737 574 251 230%
747 42 12 350%
767 8 10 80%
777 56 52 108%
787 142 0 <70> 200% Assumed 7 planes/mo

So except for the 767, orders are at a pace higher than production with 3 models selling at double production.


User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 11657 times:

So the question is... Will Boeing break last years record for orders?

I think they will not but come close to it.



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User currently offlineBobski From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 83 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 11659 times:
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What is the 787BBJ? I thought the BBJ was a version of the 737...


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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5676 posts, RR: 48
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 11662 times:

They need another 175 orders. IMO I think it's doubtful barring a mega order (like 100 787 from AA). I think they'll get over 900 easily.


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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5676 posts, RR: 48
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 11662 times:

Quoting Bobski (Reply 6):
What is the 787BBJ? I thought the BBJ was a version of the 737...

Boeing is now producing BBJ versions of the 747 and the 787. I'll send you link when I could find it.

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2006/q4/061017a_nr.html

[Edited 2006-11-16 17:36:49]


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User currently offlineLeelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 11660 times:

Quoting Bobski (Reply 6):
What is the 787BBJ? I thought the BBJ was a version of the 737...



ORLANDO, Fla., Oct. 17, 2006 -- Boeing Business Jets today announced it has won seven orders for the Boeing 787 Dreamliner and 747-8...

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/news/2006/q4/061017a_nr.html


User currently offlineTradewindL1011 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 11658 times:

Quoting JayinKitsap (Reply 4):
Does anyone recall how many UFO's there were in 2005.

Very interesting difference, last year total unidentified orders numbered 23. This comprised single orders for a 737-700, 737-800, and 767-200ER, as well as 16 73Gs and 4 738s.

~Trades


User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4697 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 11656 times:

Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 1):
This is very interested, i wounder for whom it is ordered

Very interesting indeed. But I wouldn't be surprised if it's for somebody in Dubai.

I wonder if PR might figure in a number of the UFO 777s for GECAS.

[Edited 2006-11-16 18:23:54]


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User currently offlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 967 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 11657 times:

Quoting DEVILFISH (Reply 11):
Very interesting indeed. But I wouldn't be surprised if it's for somebody in Dubai.

No i can assure you that not Dubai, they are looking for something bigger
size does matter  Wink


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21422 posts, RR: 60
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 11656 times:

Quoting Leelaw (Reply 9):
ORLANDO, Fla., Oct. 17, 2006 -- Boeing Business Jets today announced it has won seven orders for the Boeing 787 Dreamliner and 747-8...

Dig those ugly grey engines on the 787BBJ. I understand it saves fuel, but is that really necessary on the 787BBJ livery? I mean, most private customers are just going to paint the whole thing white anyway.



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User currently offlineBeech19 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 936 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 11659 times:

Quoting LY777 (Reply 2):
certailly a 77W

Certainly is...

Quoting JayinKitsap (Reply 4):
Will Boeing reach 1,000 orders this year, they will have to have a great last 1.5 months to get there.

I beleive they will... i can smell some 787 orders popping up before the EOY and the 737 will sell another 50 before the EOY. Just my guess.

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 8):
Boeing is now producing BBJ versions of the 747 and the 787.

Best looking liv, only second to the dreamliner liv.

Quoting TradewindL1011 (Reply 10):
Very interesting difference, last year total unidentified orders numbered 23. This comprised single orders for a 737-700, 737-800, and 767-200ER, as well as 16 73Gs and 4 738s

That wasn't the total "unidentified" orders for the whole year, it was just what was left over as unidentified at the EOY. Boeing has tons of orders that the airline choosing the list as UFO until they are ready.

Quoting JayinKitsap (Reply 4):
Unidentified certainly has big growth plans. Seriously, it seems unusual that 15% of their orders are unidentified this year. Does anyone recall how many UFO's there were in 2005.

It has nothing to do with "growth" in the UFO sector. Many of them will be "identified" before the close of the year. It was the same way last year and the year before... and the year before...



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User currently offlineBringiton From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 866 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 11663 times:

Quoting JayinKitsap (Reply 4):
Will Boeing reach 1,000 orders this year, they will have to have a great last 1.5 months to get there.

822 orders so far and the SpI reports suggest a 50 widebody order . Even if we assume that half of that would be previous UFO's being revealed it still makes close to 850 firm orders for the year so far. 150 jets isnt all that hard to sell IMO over the next 1.5 months since boeing sold over 284 aircrafts between Nov. 16th and Dec.31 of last year!!

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 5):
I think they will not but come close to it.

Depends on the 787 Slots issue , If boeing is able to decide on a Post 2009-2010 ramp up by this month then they will pick up a fresh flow of orders comming in . Moreover expect the 20 Aeroflot slots to be gone before year end. IMO there will be a slight 737 increase towards mid december which will get them past last years total !!


User currently offlineOsiris30 From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3186 posts, RR: 26
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 11658 times:

Quoting Bringiton (Reply 15):
IMO there will be a slight 737 increase towards mid december which will get them past last years total !!

I know I'm going to get flamed for this but there will be (prediction) roughly 45 748i sold by EOY.. Orders of 25, 15 and 5 respectively.



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User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3365 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 11657 times:

Quoting Osiris30 (Reply 16):
I know I'm going to get flamed for this but there will be (prediction) roughly 45 748i sold by EOY.. Orders of 25, 15 and 5 respectively.

 scratchchin 


User currently offlineBeech19 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 936 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 11659 times:

Quoting Osiris30 (Reply 16):
I know I'm going to get flamed for this but there will be (prediction) roughly 45 748i sold by EOY.. Orders of 25, 15 and 5 respectively.

No flaming... just curious how you came about with those numbers. Any method to the madness?  Wink I was thinking 25 total before EOY.



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5676 posts, RR: 48
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 11658 times:

Quoting Osiris30 (Reply 16):
I know I'm going to get flamed for this but there will be (prediction) roughly 45 748i sold by EOY.. Orders of 25, 15 and 5 respectively.

Dude I wish it were true but seeing that many carriers have decided to move a lot of their fleet decisions to next year, I don't think were' going to see any 748I orders this year. Even Boeing is skeptical of receing and -I orders.



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User currently offlineBeech19 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 936 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 11659 times:

Regarding the 777 UFO's...
The understanding is that 15 of the 16 is for GECAS.
Any eductated guess's who the lone 777 is for?

Its a single 777-200ER ordered on October 27th.



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5676 posts, RR: 48
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 11660 times:

Quoting Beech19 (Reply 20):
Its a single 777-200ER ordered on October 27th.

Maybe it's for TAAG.



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User currently offlineThebry From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 375 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 11662 times:
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It's also incredible to look at the wide-body vs. narrow-body sales. Of their total 822 firm orders for the year, 248 of them are wide-bodies! Just incredible. The margin on those are pretty sweet too -- you can bet there's no "fire sale" on 777 and 787 slots. Even the 767 has sold 8 frames this year!  Smile

User currently offlineOsiris30 From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3186 posts, RR: 26
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 11662 times:

Quoting Beech19 (Reply 18):
No flaming... just curious how you came about with those numbers. Any method to the madness? I was thinking 25 total before EOY.

There's some method to it  Wink Now for all I know any one of those orders may end up in early 07. But my prediction is that they will land in '06. I've but the orders in alphabetical order though. (Thus the respectively portion)

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 19):
Dude I wish it were true but seeing that many carriers have decided to move a lot of their fleet decisions to next year, I don't think were' going to see any 748I orders this year. Even Boeing is skeptical of receing and -I orders.

Well it's just my prediction.. don't bet the farm on it or anything :P



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User currently offlineCB777 From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1216 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 11662 times:

Quoting Beech19 (Reply 20):
Its a single 777-200ER ordered on October 27th.

Maybe for Continental...


25 Post contains images Beech19 : Actually i bet it is... i just looked up their previous order and it was for only 2 772ER's. They have made public comments about receiving a 3rd one
26 Glom : Are Boeing slowing down or is Airbus speeding up?
27 Bringiton : The 11 787 order is definately for Vietnam IMO
28 Scouseflyer : I think that it's just the way that announcements fall throughout the year - what we need to remember that both OEMs are having great years - both se
29 Beech19 : If that is true we could find this out very soon with the POTUS visiting in the near future... Who would buy a single 789? I would have to imagine it
30 Post contains images Scbriml : If Airbus were able to book all their "pending" A330s, I think they could have their best A330 year ever. A bit of both I think. Airbus couldn't have
31 NYC777 : Well ironic but the A380 problems are helping the A330 line but I hate to think of the margins to Airbus on those planes.
32 Ikramerica : Alphabetical, not sorted according to size... 25, 15, 5... BA, EK, KE? (more widebodies to be ordered soon) BA, EK, LH? (only 5 for LH?) BA, EK, VS?
33 Post contains images Beech19 : I like this scenario... Possibly with KE getting a large chunk of them. EK certainly "needs" planes, or so they say. BA loves their 777's but there i
34 Post contains images Osiris30 : This is closest but you have the last one wrong. I'll give you a hint, they don't have a two digit code as far as I know but buy an awful lot of plan
35 Post contains images Beech19 : Can we say GECAS or IFLC?   I don't beleive they have two digit codes.[Edited 2006-11-16 21:29:27]
36 DEVILFISH : Jet Airways doesn't have a two-digit code and they buy a lot of planes. Plus, they just got US clearance.[Edited 2006-11-16 22:01:26]
37 Post contains images Osiris30 :
38 Post contains links Beech19 : Uhhh... they don't? Every airline does... Jet Airways is 9W. http://www.airodyssey.net/reference/airlines.html
39 Leamside : Devilfish, Exactly what I was wondering about. Years back I heard a PR Capt. mention the PR chairman & CEO's interest in 777s. I guess we shall see.
40 Pizzaandplanes : With only 8 orders on the 767 this year, how long can the 767 line stay open. When they do unfortunately close the 767 line what aircraft will takeove
41 FlyDreamliner : It depends, if we see any sort of order out of BA, AA, WN, etc, we could see it get a nice bump. I think the 787 has a good number of orders yet to c
42 Post contains images DEVILFISH : Depends if you consider a letter a digit. [Edited 2006-11-17 01:47:50]
43 Post contains images Beech19 : You got me. "Two-character" code. is that better? hehe With 973 ordered and 945 delivered they have 28 left to produce and deliver to customers(one i
44 Ikramerica : 25, 15, 5 = BA, CX, GECAS 25 for BA is a no brainer, CX was rumored to be looking at the 748i over the 380 and 15 sounds right, and since GECAS just f
45 Thebry : Wow... that's incredible. I didn't realize the 767 was so close to having sold and delivered 1000 frames. Out of curiosity, how many other aircraft t
46 Osiris30 : 727, DC9 spring to mind immediately.
47 DfwRevolution : 707 727 737 747 757 MD80 A320 The DC-9 didn't make it....
48 N328KF : By strict definition, yes, but we all know that the DC-9 family includes the MD-80/MD-90/717, and in some cases the differences aren't all that huge.
49 Osiris30 : Dc-9 is the md-80 and company in my books... Those later aircraft are much like the 737ng's which are still 737s in my books.
50 DfwRevolution : But each generation of 737 has passed the 1,000 orders mark in its own right. Despite the success of the DC-9's replacement, the DC-9 did not gain 1,
51 Osiris30 : I'm not arguing that you are techincally incorrect. I was merely clarifying that from my position the DC-9 and MD80, etc. are the same aircraft. I mi
52 Post contains images DEVILFISH : I think the honor is Osiris30's. Actually, the "Edited" notation at the bottom of my post(42) was for replacing "character" with "letter". They remai
53 Jfk777 : Boeing will announce substantial orders toward the end of the year as is customary. December seems to be "cook the books month" at Airbus. I would exp
54 Post contains links and images DEVILFISH : Something this big?..... http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=555814 or even bigger? 748i - 380
55 RichardPrice : Not all that strange, the insurance money has just come through for the A340-600 that was written off in 2005 most likely. Often said, never substant
56 N328KF : That was an A340-300.
57 RichardPrice : Ahh cheers, for some reason I have it embedded in my mind it was a -600!
58 Post contains links BoomBoom : Boeing logs 29 orders; 50 more may be ahead http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...aerospace/2003434734_boeing17.html
59 Post contains images Beech19 : One persons "orders that havn't been firmed up yet but we will add them to the order books anyways" is another persons "cooking the books." It should
60 RichardPrice : Yes, that was the stance taken at the start of this year by a few people on this board - but did that actually happen? The China order was signed at
61 Post contains images Beech19 : Because they are competing in the same industry against eachother and no one else. Thats why. I don't think its just blustering my a.net members... T
62 UAEflyer : Waaw this plane looks great in this colors, yah my friend our bosses here are using currently 744, they just got them last year so there is no plans
63 RichardPrice : Doesnt mean a thing - both are reporting under different financial law, both are owned under different shareholder law, both employ under different e
64 Thebry : Wow! I'll hold out hope that another 27 767's are sold so that model will enter the "1000 frames sold" team. I'll bet the 777 will enter that league
65 Mham001 : True, however history has proven that if Boeing reported with the same standards, there is no doubt who won the orders race last year.
66 Ikramerica : Then if that's the case, don't release PR on the day you "win" talking about how you are number one when you know very well that you counted differen
67 RichardPrice : My excuse isnt an excuse, its the reality of the situation. But according to the counting method Boeing used, they hadnt sold those jets yet, so how
68 Post contains links DEVILFISH : "So what happened to the 747-8i(1 only) ordered few months ago? for whom it was ordered? Who ever was he" http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles...reve
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