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WN New Routes + Expansion For 07  
User currently offlineR311music From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 105 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 9897 times:

New Nonstop Service
* Three new daily nonstop roundtrip flights between Baltimore/Washington
and Pittsburgh. Fares begin as low as $39 one-way. This seven-day
advance purchase $39 fare is available only between
Baltimore/Washington and Pittsburgh and is available for purchase
today, with travel beginning March 11, 2007 through May 10, 2007. See
fare rules below.
* Two new daily nonstop roundtrip flights between Dallas Love Field and
Birmingham. Fares begin as low as $49 one-way. This 14-day advance
purchase $49 fare is available only between Dallas Love Field and
Birmingham on nonstop flights only and is available for purchase today
through March 11, 2007, with travel beginning March 11, 2007 through
May 10, 2007. See fare rules below.
* Two new daily nonstop roundtrip flights between San Diego and
Reno/Lake Tahoe. Fares begin as low as $69 one-way. This 14-day
advance purchase fare is available only between San Diego and
Reno/Lake Tahoe on nonstop flights only and is available for purchase
today through March 11, 2007, with travel beginning March 11, 2007
through May 10, 2007. See fare rules below.
* Two new daily nonstop roundtrip flights between Cleveland and Orlando.
Fares begin as low as $79 one-way. This 14-day advance purchase
$79 fare is available only between Cleveland and Orlando on nonstop
flights only and is available for purchase today through March 11,
2007, with travel beginning March 11, 2007, through May 10, 2007. See
fare rules below.

-source Southwest.com


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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9913 times:

Oh dude there is soo much more then that!!

Additional Nonstop Service
* One additional daily nonstop roundtrip between Albuquerque and Las
Vegas (for a total of seven daily).
* One additional daily nonstop roundtrip between Buffalo and Orlando
(for a total of three daily).
* One additional daily nonstop roundtrip between Burbank and Sacramento
(for a total of 11 daily).
* One additional daily nonstop roundtrip between Spokane and Oakland
(for a total of two daily).
* Two additional daily nonstop roundtrips between Las Vegas and San Jose
(for a total of nine daily).
* One additional daily nonstop roundtrip between Sacramento and Las
Vegas (for a total of eight daily).
* One additional daily nonstop roundtrip between Los Angeles and Salt
Lake City (for a total of five daily).
* One additional daily nonstop roundtrip between Los Angeles and Tucson
(for a total of six daily).
* One additional daily nonstop roundtrip between Orlando and Manchester
(for a total of five daily).
* One additional daily nonstop roundtrip between Orlando and Ft. Myers
(for a total of four daily).
* One additional daily nonstop roundtrip between Manchester and
Philadelphia (for a total of six daily).
* One additional daily nonstop roundtrip between West Palm Beach and
Philadelphia (for a total of two daily).
* One additional daily nonstop roundtrip between Portland and Sacramento
(for a total of seven daily).
* One additional daily nonstop roundtrip between Philadelphia and
Raleigh-Durham (for a total of six daily).
* One additional daily nonstop roundtrip between Philadelphia and Tampa
Bay (for a total of four daily).
* One additional daily nonstop roundtrip between Austin and Chicago
Midway (for a total of two daily).
* Two additional daily nonstop roundtrip between Dallas Love Field and
St. Louis (for a total of eight daily).
* One additional daily nonstop roundtrip between Chicago Midway and San
Diego (for a total of five daily).


BEGINNING MARCH 17, 2007:
* One additional daily nonstop roundtrip between Denver and Chicago
Midway (for a total of six daily).
* One additional daily nonstop roundtrip between Chicago Midway and
Seattle (for a total of four daily).

BEGINNING APRIL 15, 2007:
* One additional daily nonstop roundtrip between Las Vegas and Chicago
Midway (for a total of 12 daily).
* One additional daily nonstop roundtrip between Chicago Midway and
Orlando (for a total of eight daily).

Alex



Good things come to those who wait, better things come to those who go AFTER it!
User currently offlineR311music From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9906 times:

^ Haha yea I was going to get to that. I'm pretty excited to see PIT-BWI as I had heard that rumor while I was working in BWI earlier this year. Also CLE-MCO is surprising but nice to see.


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User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6552 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9904 times:

Jesus, all of that expansion, and MSY gets the shaft again from WN. It's pretty sad, but hardly surprising.

I have a great idea. WN should do us all a favor at MSY and give up 3/4 of its ticket counter space since 3/4 of it is just sitting there collecting dust (roughly 11 out of 16 check in positions are never used). Also, what's the use of having six jetways if no more than three at a time are ever used? Waste of money and space.


User currently offlineSeven3seven From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 318 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9905 times:

It would be nice if it was all pure expansion. What they dont tell you is we are drawing down and stopping other markets. Look up BDL-PHL. I heard its going away completely.


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User currently offlineR311music From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9907 times:

Yea I work at BDL, but those PHL-BDL flights are usually empty, so it's much smarter to abandon those routes for better ones. Overall it's expansion as PHL lost 3 BDL flights but gained 1 RDU, 1 MHT, 1 TPA, and 1 PBI. I don't think any other routes have been cancelled besides BDL-PHL.


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User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9905 times:

Quoting R311music (Thread starter):
Two new daily nonstop roundtrip flights between Cleveland and Orlando.



Quoting R311music (Reply 2):
Also CLE-MCO is surprising but nice to see.

Probably competition for FL's CAK-MCO flight along with the obvious CO CLE competition. Freedom also operates one daily CAK-MCO flight.

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 1):
One additional daily nonstop roundtrip between Los Angeles and Tucson
(for a total of six daily).

Nice to see more service here. I would like to see a TUS-OAK nonstop though. Maybe a continuation from an ABQ flight for a ABQ-TUS-OAK routing.

Surprising to see no PHX expansion.


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9906 times:

Quoting Seven3seven (Reply 4):
What they dont tell you is we are drawing down and stopping other markets. Look up BDL-PHL. I heard its going away completely.



Quoting R311music (Reply 5):
Yea I work at BDL, but those PHL-BDL flights are usually empty, so it's much smarter to abandon those routes for better ones.

Sounds like the folks at HDQ know what they're doing...


User currently offlineR311music From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9906 times:

Yea I am also surprised that there is no PHX expansion too. I figured maybe at least another east coast city to connect to PHX such as MHT or BDL. I guess we will have to wait to the next round of growth.


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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6761 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9905 times:

Am i the only one that noticed this part?

Quoting R311music (Thread starter):
is available for purchase today
through March 11, 2007, with travel beginning March 11, 2007 through
May 10, 2007. See fare rules below.

How can you have travel between March 11 through March 10? Jigga WHAT?



Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineSwacle From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 375 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9914 times:

Like the PHL-BDL dissapearing for the PHL expansion, CLE loses 2 daily BNA and 1 daily MDW to gain out two MCO. But, like mentioned above, HDQ seems to know what they are doing as only two of the four BNA draw many customers, and except for Friday and Sunday, the MDW loads are all around less than impressive.

Now if we could only get those PHL nonstops...

Don/WN CLE



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User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9906 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 9):
How can you have travel between March 11 through March 10? Jigga WHAT?

It says March 11 through May 10. Look again.


User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6761 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9907 times:

I am really shocked. I was totally expecting RDU to gain a new destination so that we could have a direct DAL flight or two. Oh well.. surprise surprise.


Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32689 posts, RR: 72
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9909 times:

Plenty of people are going tob e very excited about Reno-San Diego happening, finally.


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User currently offlineSWACLE From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 375 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9910 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 9):
Am i the only one that noticed this part?

Quoting R311music (Thread starter):
is available for purchase today
through March 11, 2007, with travel beginning March 11, 2007 through
May 10, 2007. See fare rules below.

How can you have travel between March 11 through March 10? Jigga WHAT?

That would be March 11th through MAY 10th....looks like the promo period lasts 2 months.

Don/WN CLE



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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9911 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 9):

How can you have travel between March 11 through March 10? Jigga WHAT?

I read it as May 10th?

Alex



Good things come to those who wait, better things come to those who go AFTER it!
User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9910 times:

Quoting R311music (Reply 8):
Yea I am also surprised that there is no PHX expansion too. I figured maybe at least another east coast city to connect to PHX such as MHT or BDL

And there are still expansion opportunities out West from Phoenix as well:
Boise
Spokane
Harlingen-RGV
Lubbock
Midland-O
Amarillo

Out East, the only markets I could see happening anytime soon would be:

Washington-D
Ft Lauderdale
Hartford-S

-and-

Maybe, a couple of years from now:

Islip

Not sure if Manchester, Albany, Norfolk and Jackson are mature enough markets at this point. Whereas Ft Myers, West Palm Beach, and Jacksonville are many years away, if ever at all.

edit to remove error.

[Edited 2006-11-16 19:49:51]


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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6761 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9910 times:

Oh.. Oops.. sorry.. my bad.. will go back and play my hooked on phonics again..


Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineR311music From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9910 times:

Quoting Stirling (Reply 16):
Providence

Currently PVD has 2x NS service to PHX. But other than that, I have to agree with your post.



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User currently onlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4654 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9910 times:

Quoting Stirling (Reply 16):
And there are still expansion opportunities out West from Phoenix as well:



Quoting Stirling (Reply 16):
Maybe, a couple of years from now:

Providence

PVD-PHX has been running 2x daily for over 5 years now



Experience is what you get when what you thought would work out didn't!
User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9908 times:

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 19):
PVD-PHX has been running 2x daily for over 5 years now

Duh, my bad, was thinking of HP/US.



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User currently offlineTooluther From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 305 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9909 times:

I figured PIT-BWI was inevitable on FL or WN one of these days. I was secretly pulling for FL though.

You still can't get from PIT-DAL though. So maybe Pittsburgh-St.L will be in the next round??


User currently offlineRachelBDL From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 72 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9908 times:

Fram what I've seen of BDL's new schedule, we will avtually be gaining an inbound DAL direct flight (DAL-HOU-MCO-BDL I believe.) I'm sure that there are many more cities that will have the same service, if you play around a bit. As far as the BDL-PHL disappearing, I couldn't be happier. I work at least one of those flights everyday and it's almost not worth it. The only draw on that particular flight is that it goes on to RDU, the only direct we have, but when you have ATC delays soooo often.... Nah, don't bother.

Hi Rob!



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User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5400 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9908 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 13):
Plenty of people are going tob e very excited about Reno-San Diego happening, finally.

[Hand raised and waving wildly!] Yes! Big grin Right you are MAH.

First new SD flights since Feb 2006; I was hoping for more but it's a start. (I predict SAN-HOU or SAN-DEN next...)

Interesting that WN is still staying away from DEN-CA flights.

I know at the last MAJOR schedule rework (Feb 5 2006) the PR even explained that they had reduced some markets that were underperforming and added a bunch of new a/c. Looks like the same thing this time. WN continues to do things right and in a way that keeps profitability up.

I haven't even looked at the sked's yet to see if any SAN markets were reduced; looks like my afternoon is now occupied... (Note to self: GET A LIFE!)

Thank you WN for not forgetting about our little corner of the country.

bb


User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9909 times:

Quoting Tooluther (Reply 21):
You still can't get from PIT-DAL though. So maybe Pittsburgh-St.L will be in the next round??

Technically you can, with 2 stops, via MCI/STL and MDW. Or BHM/BWI and HOU/PHL.



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25 Stl1326 : Well I know PHX lost a flight to STL it goes to 5 daily from 6 on March 11.
26 Post contains images Silver1SWA : *cringe* 'bout time! I could definitely see that.
27 ChrisNH : Believe me: up here at MHT we are, too. PHX has been on our wish list for ever. We say this because WN 'generally' (i.e. with some exceptions) likes
28 ERJ170 : BDL has 4x RDU non-stop on American Eagle..
29 CentPIT : FINALLY, we see PIT-BWI! I am very happy for Pittsburgh International, Southwest Airlines, and the PIT PAX. I did notice US Airways had recently dropp
30 PVD757 : I'm a little dissapointed that PVD didn't even get 1 additional flight, never mind a new market. PVD hasn't seen much service growth in the lat year.
31 R311music : Eventually I suspect they will add a few flights out of PVD. Seems like New England kinda got the short end of the stick this time around. Only MHT p
32 MAH4546 : Anyone have a list of the routes being discontinued, such as PHL-BDL?
33 MAH4546 : Anyone have a list of the routes being discontinued, such as PHL-BDL?
34 RachelBDL : WN has only the one route right now. I am guessing that the entire schedule has not been entered yet, because I can't seem to bring up BDL-RDU for Ma
35 OzarkD9S : Anyone figure out where those DAL-BHM flights are continuing on to? I'm sure they're gonna go SOMEWHERE beyond the Wright perimeter.
36 Dolphinflyer : My guess was that WN would do a DAL-BHM-RDU through-routing 2x/day. However, the new DAL-BHM flights seem to just be local. Overall, I'm disappointed
37 Wedgetail737 : The TUS-OAK existed at one time, I believe after the absorption of Morris Air. But that service was discontinued quite a while ago. Yes...it would be
38 STLGph : deleted. wrong response in wrong thread.[Edited 2006-11-17 08:57:13]
39 SANFan : "As Kelly said in July, the top priorities remain adding capacity in Denver, Philadelphia, Las Vegas and Chicago (DAILY, July 20). Southwest always h
40 Gilesdavies : Wow there finally going international! Seems like Southwest are following FlyGlobespan a UK LCC is flying their 738's accross the Atlantic to BOS, YY
41 Post contains images BHMNONREV : I'm looking for the or the tongue in cheek if there was one....lol These will be for MHT and not MAN....
42 Post contains images Gilesdavies : WHOOPS! I Feel a bit of a fool now...
43 Post contains images ChrisNH : If it WERE Manchester U.K. the Airliners.net servers would crash and burn Seriously, some charter company should start MAN-MHT service. Great New Eng
44 DesertAir : I flew OAK-TUS in July of 1997. It was a late afternoon flight. I am happy to see an aditional TUS-LAX flight. This increases connecting opportunitie
45 MSYtristar : Oh you must be talking about the four flights added way back in June. That has been it. MSY has been thrown a cold shoulder by WN management, let's f
46 WNCrew : We ARE a business and I am sure the company is doing what will make them MONEY first and foremost. I am from MSY (born/raised) and still have fmaily
47 MSYtristar : I know this, but that still doesn't change what the perception of the company is down here. Honestly, the airline hasn't really made a good effort to
48 NASCARAirforce : I saw a Southwest ad on TV for DTW - MCO for $79 one way. Since when was Southwest flying DTW - MCO?
49 MasseyBrown : All part of their overall plan to raise their length-of-haul numbers. With exceptions like BWI-PIT, probably a high traffic city-pair, they need to e
50 Chase : Very nice, although I wish there were some expansion out of IND...
51 PVD757 : as dissapointed as there being no new PVD flights, I'm just as surprised to see no new IAD flights. WN almost always follows up on a station opening i
52 Post contains images Lucianflyboy : Did I miss something here? When did BHM get added to the list of nonstop cities from DAL? It's not a neighboring states and the flight is nonstop.
53 Atrude777 : Shelby Law. In 1997, a law authored by Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama modified the Wright Amendment to allow flights to Alabama, Kansas, and Mississi
54 MAH4546 : FLL-PVD Saturday service returns in January this year.
55 Flaps : I've been waiting for PIT-BWI for what seems like forever. I think that market has the potential to be as successful as PIT-PHL has been. I know that
56 OPNLguy : While I fully respect your right to that individual opinion, it's just that--an individual opinion, and not necessarily fact. In a business where lot
57 PVD757 : I saw that a while ago when they opened up bookings from January. The times are just aweful though - depart PVD at 6:50pm on Saturdays only and rutur
58 LoneStarMike : Someone mentioned the DAL-BHM flights being local. According to an article in the Dallas Morning News, they're not. They continue on to BNA.
59 MSYtristar : I do respect your opinion, and what you said is likely the general consensus of the airline in pretty much every city....except for New Orleans. Not
60 Luvfa : This is great for PIT. It is so difficult to get anywhere from PIT. ORF must be reached by connecting at MDW for instance. BWI service will open up s
61 Flyinryan99 : They announced this a couple of weeks ago.
62 Luvfa : DAL-BHM is being added because of the outreaching potential of the new Wright Compromise. We always could fly there, (since 1997), but chose not to. M
63 MtnWest1979 : From some rumblings I hear, BOI-DEN n/s aren't too far away. Guessing mid-late Spring '07. But who knows. It would be nice.
64 Steeler83 : Yeah, Baltimore/DC ranks rather high up on O&D out of PIT last time I checked... Well, DC does anyway...
65 SANFan : Yes NASCAR, there was a thread here on A.net about it; WN announced it on Nov 2. They're putting one new plane on a DTW-MCO-DEN-MCO-DTW routing start
66 Stirling : I am not sure I understand the animosity directed at Southwest over their service levels in New Orleans? They are supposed to fly airplanes half-empty
67 MSYtristar : Surely you're not talking about me, because I don't claim to know everything about everything...just everything about the New Orleans market. To each
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