Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31096 posts, RR: 85
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 17632 times:
I and a few others have been speculating whether or not GECAS is taking 15 773ERs to place with LH to begin replacing 744s. I know I am on record saying LH wouldn't buy them since they have the A346 in their fleet and more on order, however a 10-12 year lease would tide LH over until the A350-1000/787-11/Y3 is available.
Bringiton From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 866 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 17625 times:
Didnt LH say that they will wait for the XWB? If that is the case then it would mean that Airbus would have completed their offer to LH vis-a-vis the new improved XWB and LH have made a choice. IMO the deal will be for More A380's (LH has said that they will be buying more) and the 787 !
This question is not meant seriously, isn´t it...?
I don't think I ask silly questions Johnny, publically, or I try not to...
It was serious question.
My wife is in management for them here in the States and we've heard nothing but what has been Mayruber's previous statements concerning their widebody order.
Look, like you, I can't wait to find out either, so I'm asking where are the reports coming from? Inside Germany? News media? What?
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Columba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7076 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 17632 times:
Well this it too good to be true since LH management recently stated that they will wait until next spring.
But if Johnny is right -what I really hope - I guess we will see 787s from Boeing, maybe 777 and more A380s from Airbus.
It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
FlyinTLow From Germany, joined Oct 2004, 524 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 17631 times:
Quoting Stitch (Reply 5): I and a few others have been speculating whether or not GECAS is taking 15 773ERs to place with LH to begin replacing 744s. I know I am on record saying LH wouldn't buy them since they have the A346 in their fleet and more on order, however a 10-12 year lease would tide LH over until the A350-1000/787-11/Y3 is available.
Slz396 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 15187 times:
Looks like there is some good news coming for both manufacturers on the wide body front.
How likely is it to see additional A380 orders from LH in December?
I know LH's CEO has said it is a given they will order more superjumbos at some point, but will it be done now already? LH could take advantage of the FedEx cancellation to get some pretty early delivery positions...
And how likely is a mixed 787/A350 order?
If LH were to take let's say the 787-9 (8 abreast) and the A350-1000, they would get the best of both worlds (with 2 very different planes capacity wise) and leave the possibility open for a small fleet of 787-3s later.
Included in the deal for 787s could be an interim lease of 777s while waiting for the A350-1000s in a similar way as Airbus is doing to SQ with A330s.
All this is just a personal idea of course, but given the fact the timing of the announcement is suddenly brought forward to shortly AFTER EADS will give the go-ahead to the A350XWB (possibly with a secret LH commitment on their table?) AND the sudden purchase of 773ERs by GECAS (which is well connected to the 777 program) it could be there are some good indications...
Beech19 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 936 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 15187 times:
Quoting Jimyvr (Reply 1): What about mid/long-haul like the 787/350-size?
If a 8500nm 787 isn't long haul... what is? (aside from 772LR)
Quoting NYC777 (Reply 12): They'll go with the 787, A380 (exercise options), and as far as the 77W/A346 it's a toss up.
Agree with all except the 77W/A346 toss up.
Maybe internally at LH they aren't sure but last time i checked there was truely no competition between the 773ER and A346 as far as performance. 773ER shines brighter in that one. (No disrespect to the A340 as its my favorite A a/c...)
Is this really a written policy somewhere? or are you just speculating because of the airlines history? Never rule out anything... in this day in age where costs are rising a company will do what is best for its bottom line, now, today. Not just because they have a tradition of doing something contradictory to it.
Finally someone answers my question (the one I made in the GECAS UFO order thread). However LH does lease on a short term basis at least, both dry lease and ACMIs (remember the A332s and previously the NG 767s which flew for LH for a while, I presume pilots from DE flew the 767s for LH).
As for the speculations, I'm guessing maybe 10(firm)+5(options) 77Ws and perhaps 15+5 748Is. I'd hold my breath with the 787s, though I'm confident that eventually, the 787 will fly for LH and DE.