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NY/NJ Port Authority Looks At SWF  
User currently offlinePVDflier From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 57 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3706 times:

FYI...


U.S. Senator Charles Schumer (D, NY) released the following statement today on the Port Authority Board's vote granting themselves the authorization to review Stewart International Airport as an opportunity to expand regional airport capacity.


"Giving the Port Authority an opportunity to run Stewart Airport could be a win-win for all New Yorkers. The PA is expert at running airports and has exactly the kind of relationships with airlines to entice them to add service there.

In the Hudson Valley – a region bustling with growth and crying out for new low-cost air service – an expanded Stewart would be a shot in the arm for economic development and boon to local residents. It could also have a significant job creating impact on the regional economy by alleviating the cargo and passenger bottleneck now constricting metropolitan area airports. Building up Stewart is the right thing to do for New Yorkers from the Hudson Valley to Manhattan to Long Island."

-- U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer

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User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6537 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3698 times:

Someone politition made this same statement 10 years ago and again 5 years ago.

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21588 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3669 times:

Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 1):
Someone politition made this same statement 10 years ago and again 5 years ago.

Then those two statements were also right.

People SWF doesn't have enough of a catchment, but that's just not true. People who live 1/2 way between there and New York and people who even live closer to NYC, would choose SWF if the flights were convenient and plentiful and in line with prices from LGA and JFK, because it's less of a hassle to get to. And there are plenty of corporate offices in northern Westchester County that would rather send people to SWF if it was faster.



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User currently offline777WT From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 877 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3617 times:

Well as of last month to 2 ago, AirTran and jetblue serves SWF now...

User currently offlineSpinkid From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3577 times:

I think the real test will be to see how the service on jetBlue, Air Tran and Allegiant holds up in the next few months. If people make use of it, the PA will become more interested. Flights will certainly become cheaper here in the near future.

User currently offlineAmtrakGuy From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 500 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3405 times:

Anyone can tell me -- NY Subway and/or commuter trains (can't remember the name) from NYC area passed near SWF?

User currently offlineCharger From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 273 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3388 times:

Quoting AmtrakGuy (Reply 5):
Anyone can tell me -- NY Subway and/or commuter trains (can't remember the name) from NYC area passed near SWF?

There are no subways up here. The only train that is any where near SWF is Metro North. You would have to go to the Beacon Station and transfer to the Newburgh-Beacon-Stewart shuttle bus.

IIRC there was some talk of extending the rail to SWF but I haven't heard anything about it in a long time.


User currently offlineDesertAir From Mexico, joined Jan 2006, 1481 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3320 times:

I think SWF is a great airport. For a number of years I went to Wappingers Falls each January. I stopped flying into New York City airports and driving up and began using SWF on AA through Chicago. The airport was always open because of its proximity to the Air Force base there.

User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13202 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3305 times:

This seems to be an idea we see brought up every several years. When the weather gets bad, EWR and LGA especially have very extensive delays inbound and outbound due to their tight patterns and limited facilities.
To me, I would suggest that SWF be used to free up space at JFK and EWR as to freight. SWF is close to major highways, so there would be little more travel time to access the NYC Metro area, and for northern parts of the area, less travel time. Freight normally is less sensitive to time than passangers.


User currently offlineEWRandMDW From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3269 times:

There's one thing everyone seems to forget and that's the "NJ" part of the agency's name. New York State cannot unilaterally decide this issue. New Jersey is supposed to be an equal partner and that state will want A LOT in return for it's approval, whether major improvements to EWR and/or Port Newark/Elizabeth, and/or the PATH rail system, etc.

User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3420 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3229 times:

seems logical and beneficial IMHO...

User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3168 times:

Quoting EWRandMDW (Reply 9):
There's one thing everyone seems to forget and that's the "NJ" part of the agency's name. New York State cannot unilaterally decide this issue. New Jersey is supposed to be an equal partner and that state will want A LOT in return for it's approval, whether major improvements to EWR and/or Port Newark/Elizabeth, and/or the PATH rail system, etc

A significantly expanded SWF actually might be competition for EWR, for example among people lviing in Rockland County and northern Bergen County.



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5803 posts, RR: 47
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3134 times:

Well the problem is that EWR and LGA are always crowded so in a sense those two airports will be helped. Tha main issue is transsportation between SWF and the major business centers. You would need rail lines going into Manhattan and NJ so that business travelers could make the most out of SWF. LGA and JFK will still be the airport of choice for Long Islanders, Quuens, Brooklyn and the Bronx while EWR will still serve most if not all of northern Jersey and Staten Island. SWF would be great for residents of westchester, parts of Connecticut as well as people living in the Rockland, Orange and Dutchesss counties.

Again the main thing is to develop transportation and building new terminals. Would be great if they made it a large inernational airport handling TransAtlantic an perhaps even TransPacific flights!!



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16907 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3104 times:

Quoting AmtrakGuy (Reply 5):
Anyone can tell me -- NY Subway and/or commuter trains (can't remember the name) from NYC area passed near SWF?



Quoting Charger (Reply 6):
There are no subways up here. The only train that is any where near SWF is Metro North. You would have to go to the Beacon Station and transfer to the Newburgh-Beacon-Stewart shuttle bus.

That's incorrect, the closest rail line to Stewart is NJ Transit's Port Jervis line, it comes within three miles of the airport to the South. The State of NY wants to connect Stewart Airport to NJ Transit's Port Jervis line.

Here's some more information.

The Port Jervis and Pascack Valley lines are Metro North Lines that are operated by NJ Transit from Orange and Rockland Counties to Hoboken, with connections at Secaucus Jct to Manhattan Penn Station.

Stewart airport is three miles from the Port Jervis line, betwee the Salisbury Mills and Campbell Hall stations.

http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/mnr/gifs/mnrmap.gif



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User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3062 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 13):
The Port Jervis and Pascack Valley lines are Metro North Lines that are operated by NJ Transit from Orange and Rockland Counties to Hoboken, with connections at Secaucus Jct to Manhattan Penn Station.
Stewart airport is three miles from the Port Jervis line, betwee the Salisbury Mills and Campbell Hall stations.

NY Penn Station to Salisbury Mills is just over 90 minutes. Add the time needed to a bus or van shuttle to SWF, and we're probably close to a 2-hour trip.
SWF is well-situated to serve people from parts of New York and New Jersey, and even bits of Connecticut and Pennsylvania. I do not, however, see it as a reasonable alternative for people going to and from Manhattan.



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User currently offlineSilentbob From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2180 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3032 times:

Quoting EWRandMDW (Reply 9):
There's one thing everyone seems to forget and that's the "NJ" part of the agency's name. New York State cannot unilaterally decide this issue. New Jersey is supposed to be an equal partner and that state will want A LOT in return for it's approval, whether major improvements to EWR and/or Port Newark/Elizabeth, and/or the PATH rail system, etc.

And there is a perfect example of why politics prevents good things from happening.


User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12970 posts, RR: 25
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2991 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 2):
And there are plenty of corporate offices in northern Westchester County that would rather send people to SWF if it was faster.

Don't most of those folks go via HPN?



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User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2936 times:

Quoting Revelation (Reply 16):
Don't most of those folks go via HPN?

That's because at the current moment SWF really only has slim pickings compared to HPN.

One of the problems with HPN is the noise restrictions and the fact that the airport can't expand much.

Since I live in Poughkeepsie I would and I know a lot of people that would like it if SWF were to become the 4th Port Authority Airport.



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