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Cielos DC10 Overrun At Barranquilla  
User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1517 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5927 times:

Seems a CIELOS DC10 was mowing the grass today.
Anybody have a link with more info?

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...php?p=2972883&posted=1#post2972883


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User currently offline777jaah From Colombia, joined Jan 2006, 1403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5898 times:

Well, I just heard from a friend of mine that this ac tried to land in BAQ with crappy weather, and had reverses innoperative in engines 2 & 3, IIRC, seems that the pilot landed a bit too fast and with the wet runway and the loaded bird, it wasn't easy to stop, when he applied the reverser on #1, bc he tried to avoid the overshoot, the plane turned left and the front gear completely dug into the wet soil like a dagger. The captain is from Peru, and the F/O colombian (second hand source of this, of course, not him directly) and unfortunately, it seems that the Flight Engineer (or someone else in the crew) suffered some injuries, but it seems he's O.K.

Pls, this info is VERY MUCH second handed, so pls don't quote me on this, this is only pilot's gossips (a frien who knows tho FO told me that......) and this is how I knew it.

BAQ was closed most of the day, I was in MDE a few hours ago and a F50 arrived from BAQ. I expected someone from BAQ all day long in Medellin, but she had to be sent in a bus to CTG then to BOG and finally MDE (Basically, an all day long trip), of course, never got to meet with this person.

Cheers



JAAH



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User currently offline757MDE From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 1753 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5690 times:

What a pity!
Any words on the registration?



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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10736 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5608 times:

It carries a flag next to the registration, so its one of the N-registered aircraft and not OB-1749. Its not N609GC or N831LA as well judging from details like the positioning of the tail logo. Could be N833LA or N614GC. Do they have more than these five DC-10s?

User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1880 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5483 times:

Yes they have more than just five DC-10.

http://www.ch-aviation.ch/aircraft.php?search=set&airline=A2&al_op=1

But I can't say something about this aircraft.


User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4395 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5317 times:

The weather has been really crappy in Barranquilla.

This reminds me of the TA 767 overrun in the 90s.....Do you know what the aircraft was carrying?



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User currently offlineSOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2497 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5166 times:

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 5):
Do you know what the aircraft was carrying?

Frozen products from Buenos Aires to Miami.


S.


User currently offlineMagyarorszag From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5114 times:

Without being 100% sure, I would say that it's either N305FE or N609GC. But I tend more toward the former.


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User currently offlineScalebuilder From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5100 times:

Quoting 777jaah (Reply 1):
bc he tried to avoid the overshoot, the plane turned left and the front gear completely dug into the wet soil like a dagger.

Thanks for sharing your breaking news:

Would you happen to know how badly the aircraft is damaged? It does not sound serious, but I had to ask anyway.

Sincerely,

Scalebuilder


User currently offline777jaah From Colombia, joined Jan 2006, 1403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4949 times:

Quoting Scalebuilder (Reply 8):
Would you happen to know how badly the aircraft is damaged?

AFAIK, cargo was being downloaded and all remainingu fuel too. The thing here is that ground where it sits is really wet, so whatever equipment is being used to lift the frame, has to b edone carefully, bc it might get stuck in the ground, instead of lifting the bird. Until that Cielos people will give a word on that, but the minor damages seem to be the first impression, nothing structural.

Cheers

JAAH



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User currently offlineTomascubero From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2005, 525 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 4865 times:

Hey Guys,

I just recieved a FWD as usual with LOTS of photos up close of this aicraft, credits go out to "PTT" as stated in the FWD. The aircraft was indeed N305FE:

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7509/accidentecielosdelper17ra8.jpg
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/6654/accidentecielosdelper17cb1.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8182/accidentecielosdelper17fu3.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9245/accidentecielosdelper17ej5.jpg
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/5604/accidentecielosdelper17vh3.jpg
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/456/accidentecielosdelper17je6.jpg
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/1677/accidentecielosdelper17zf1.jpg
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/103/accidentecielosdelper17js3.jpg
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/2725/accidentecielosdelper17sw7.jpg
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2076/accidentecielosdelper17vk4.jpg
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/9188/accidentecielosdelper17zg4.jpg
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/5739/accidentecielosdelper17jp9.jpg
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/982/accidentecielosdelper17bn1.jpg
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6237/accidentecielosdelper17ky6.jpg
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/514/accidentecielosdelper17wb7.jpg
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/3947/accidentecielosdelper17zv1.jpg
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/1478/accidentecielosdelper17yo1.jpg
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1539/accidentecielosdelper17cn2.jpg

Glad to hear eveyone was ok, hope she can get up flying again. This one is similar to the condition the Arrow Air DC-10F was after it overran at MGA.

Regards,
Tomas.


User currently offlineMagyarorszag From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 4832 times:

Quoting Tomascubero (Reply 10):

Many thanks for sharing these 'great' photos.

Quoting Tomascubero (Reply 10):
hope she can get up flying again. This one is similar to the condition the Arrow Air DC-10F was after it overran at MGA

Based on the photos, the Cielos don't seem that much damaged compared to the Arrow DC-10. Remains to know how important are the damages to the nose belly after the wheels collapsed.

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20060604-0〈=en

Cheers.

M.

[Edited 2006-11-20 09:45:08]

User currently offlineLVTMB From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days ago) and read 4544 times:

I heard that some if not all of Cielos and Centurion DC10s had their reverses removed from their #1 and #3 as a measure to save weight/fuel/money. Is this an accepted practice? Is it legal? I assume overall safety is significantly impacted, as demonstrated in BAQ.

MB


User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days ago) and read 4516 times:

Wow!
Amazing Photos!

That is going to be some job getting that aircraft out of the mud.
Biggest problem I see is once its free, is cleaning the debris out from the engines! Oooh. But remarkably, looks like little, if any structural damage.

By the registration, is this an ex FedEx plane?



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User currently offline757MDE From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 1753 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4423 times:

Are all of Cielos Airlines called "petete"?
What does that mean?
(OB-1749 is called "petete" and this one is called "petete IV" or something...)



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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8375 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4417 times:
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I am surprised this happened, I have flown from BAQ many times in every type of plane ever imagined, even an Avianca 747 back in its day. The runway at BAQ has to be 3000 meter so how can this happen ? If the weather was that bad and the pilot was coming from Miami or Lima he should have enough fuel to fly to Cartagena or Panama.

User currently offlineLVTMB From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4409 times:

Quoting 757MDE (Reply 14):
What does that mean?

PETETE= Cielos' owner deceased brother --

MB


User currently offlineA5XX From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4348 times:

To me, it looks like this DC-10 might never fly again..  Sad

A5XX



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User currently offline757MDE From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 1753 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4278 times:

Quoting LVTMB (Reply 16):
PETETE= Cielos' owner deceased brother --

MB

Thank you very much



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User currently offlineA300AA From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 394 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4278 times:

Another overrun today in BAQ . It was an AV MD 80, they evacuate the plane using slides

User currently offline757MDE From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 1753 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4269 times:

Yes it seems it sort of slided and one of the landing gears got out of the Runway. They reported the Aircraft is EI-CEQ.


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User currently offline757MDE From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 1753 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4172 times:

Another one!
A Colombian Air Force Cessna Caravan registered as FAC-5054 lost contact today at 7:20am Colombian time while flying from CACOM 5 (SKRG/MDE) to CACOM 4 located in Melgar, some 120ish miles southeast.



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User currently offline757MDE From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 1753 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4123 times:

They found the Caravan already....
What a pity.
May they rest in peace!

http://www.fac.mil.co/?idcategoria=1...D=e521a2003b447e6f939f8694577f575a



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User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1517 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3993 times:

Does BAQ have a problem draining water from the runway/taxiway areas?
Sounds like with heavy rains that the water will stay around for awhile.



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