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XNA...who Knew  
User currently offlineRampRat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1541 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2646 times:

I had no clue they built a new airport for the Fayetteville area. I was loading tons of transfer bags on our DEN flights. I have never seen XNA code before. So I looked it up and it was Northwest Arkansas Airport. So I went on their website. It looks like it opened in 1998. Man, where have I been? I didn't even know United flew into there. I guess we have flights to DEN and ORD.

So I Googled mapped it. It looks like it's in the middle of BFE. It looks like only one lane country roads lead to it. I know there is tons of money in that part of Arkansas. Wal-Mart, Tyson, JB Hunt, etc. So I wasn't surprised to see most of the mainline regionals flying into XNA. CO to IAH/EWR, NW to MEM/MSP/DTW, AA to DFW/ORD, UA to DEN/ORD, DL to ATL/CVG/SLC. AA even has mainline to DFW.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...8,-94.293251&spn=0.063113,0.170631

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User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2523 times:

AA also has mainline to LAX. XNA is not that bad of an airport. It is just there to support Tyson Foods and Wal-Mart.


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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2523 times:

Having flown into the old Drake Field several times on a Frontier CV-580, I can tell you it was an interesting old airport. Right on the old highway 71 (which in and of itself is a fascinating old mountain road!), it had a very short field and VERY limited facilities.

As the power of Wal-Mart took hold and the metro cities area (Fayetteville/Rogers/Springdale/Bentonville) began to grow exponentially, the area (with support of Ex-Governor and current President Clinton) received approval to build an entirely new passenger facility, which had been promised many new flights to support the obvious expensive costs.

Today American Eagle flies routes like LAX-XNA and LGA-XNA, the latter being sometimes called "Wall St to Wal-Mart", and even receives mainline equipment to DFW. Many airports in the U.S. have lost flights, but XNA will continue to grow.



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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11819 posts, RR: 62
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2518 times:

Who new?

American, that's who.  Smile

American (Eagle, to be exact) was the first airline to shift its Northwest Arkansas flying to XNA all the way back in 1998. Eagle's president at the time -- Dan Garton (now American's EVP-Marketing) was even on hand to officiate the opening ceremony with then-President Clinton.

Since then, when Eagle was flying with SAABs to DFW, it has now consolidated all of its D/FW flying on Regional Jets and MD80s, and added regional jet service to Chicago, Los Angeles and LaGuardia (the famous Wal*Mart-to-Wall Street flight), plus American Connection flights to St. Louis.

American remains the airport's largest carrier, by far.


User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9488 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2479 times:

when TWA was around, it was usually tied in first place for the "busiest" Trans World Express station (with Peoria).


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User currently offlineOttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2479 times:

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 1):
AA also has mainline to LAX.

And LGA. Why does something tell me that they have a corporate agreement with Wally World?

Quoting RampRat74 (Thread starter):
It looks like it's in the middle of BFE. It looks like only one lane country roads lead to it.

Yep, my girlfriend lives out there and attends the Univ of Arkansas in Fayetteville. The airport is out in the middle of BFE with just little 2 lane roads going there, but some of those houses around are immense. Obvious Wal-Mart money.

As far as the airport itself, its a nice little airport. Very laid back and well laid out, with the exception of that barn-like tunnel on one side. Anytime I walk through there, I feel like I should be mingling with cattle and hay bales should be stacked up on either side. And their TSA baggage screening is a snafu. But other than that, not bad. Right after check-in(and everyone is right there together), you go upstairs, immediately through security, and right in front of you are the only 3 gates, NW and AE. All others(DL, CO, UA, US) have to go down an escalator and into a common gate area. Upon boarding do you enter "The Barn." I really think XNA should consider tearing that down and they could add another 5 or 6 gates and jetways to that side. The most time you will spend in the airport is through the TSA checkpoint, but they have some of the nicest TSA folks I've seen. Much more professional than most TSA Nazi's, very patient, and very lenient to airline personnel(thanks guys, if you're reading). In fact, its more like the airline personnel are the only possible trouble-makers you may encounter.

But other than that, I have to commend the XNA airport authority on making the most of the little place. As said, very laid back atmosphere, is complete with a fairly large gift shop, a nice eating area with a wide variety of foods and great view of the tarmac, even a decent bar if one decided on a beer before the flight. Even is equipped with a business center and massage chairs, and the common gate waiting area has plenty of avaible seating and spacious and clean restrooms.

All in all, I would give the airport a 7, even with its 1 baggage carousel. But if you are travelling to XNA, take a cab or have someone drive you, or you'll never find it. But the scenery is nice along the way, and as I always tease my girlfriend when leaving the airport(because we see and smell so many), the state animal of Arkansas is a dead skunk.

If FL and AR end up in the SEC Championship, my Razorback girlfriend will have to be on one side of the house while my Gator self is on the other.


OttoPylit

[Edited 2006-11-18 07:53:57]

User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11819 posts, RR: 62
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2460 times:

Quoting OttoPylit (Reply 5):
And LGA. Why does something tell me that they have a corporate agreement with Wally World?

XNA-LGA is operated by Eagle Embraers, not mainline, as XNA-LAX is operated by Eagle Bombardiers. And yes, Eagle does derive a large amount of its revenue from travel related to Wal Mart's business, customers and suppliers.


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8911 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2410 times:

AA does have mainline service to ORD. 1 M80 a day supplements the 3 CRJ-700s and 1 ERJ-145 a day up to ORD. DFW has 3 M80s, 3 CRJ-700s and 2 ERJ-145s. STL (2 ERJs), LGA (2 ER3s) and LAX (1 CRJ-700) also have AA service.

User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6093 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2356 times:

XNA is a gem in otherwise rough country. The loads there are always fairly high, and it's usually all business people. The prices reflact this. ALL airlines that fly to XNA make money on it.


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User currently offlineRamprat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1541 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2151 times:

Thanks for the info guys.

User currently offlineMtnWest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2478 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 days ago) and read 2119 times:
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I know NW used to have a some DC-9 action there before. But all Airlink now, I guess.
I've only been there once,maybe 1 1/2 -2 years ago. It was just before the windowless walkway was finished. I thought it was a nice facility for the area.

[Edited 2006-11-19 02:18:02]


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User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1981 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2068 times:

XNA is a nice little airport indeed. Used to have Ozark Aviation Services based there as well, doing some mx and paint for ILFC airplanes (Air Finland 757, Skyservice A319s come to mind), but sadly, my last trip from EWR-IAH through here in July failed to show a single aircraft there. Have they gone out of business?

Otherwise, like commuting through there, no worries usually.



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User currently offlineTeneriffe77 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 470 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2044 times:

They have a nice website (http://www.nwara.com/) with a good airport map (something that I think every airport should have on their website(preferably one that you don't have to squit to see)).

User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1955 times:

The DC9 appears every now and again.


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User currently offlineGreg3322 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1912 times:

Quoting RampRat74 (Thread starter):
So I Googled mapped it. It looks like it's in the middle of BFE. It looks like only one lane country roads lead to it. I know there is tons of money in that part of Arkansas. Wal-Mart, Tyson, JB Hunt, etc.

That isn't a lie! You drive past farms and farm houses, complete with the mailbox on the road. You have to make several turns (i.e. left at the brown cow). But, there isn't much traffic, so it isn't a big deal. I have flown in there at least twice a year the last few years, usually on the LAX-XNA flight and sometime via DFW to visit family in the area.

Greg


User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4706 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1816 times:

XNA actually has more AA seats than BDL on the weekdays.

That part of Arkansas has been growing pretty radipdly, and the airservice has just as well. It is a good environment for airlines since there is no LCC. Im gussing down the road, F9 or FL would be the first to change that.



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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7557 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1777 times:

Quoting MtnWest1979 (Reply 10):
I know NW used to have a some DC-9 action there before. But all Airlink now, I guess.

The DC-9 flights are seasonal.



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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7696 posts, RR: 27
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1768 times:

Its a little on the small side for an LCC at this point but that could change. There just isn't a critical mass to come in and cherry-pick, the network carriers are necessary to be able to provide the connections all over the globe. If anyone, FL to ATL could make it work. F9 would be a lot more difficult.

User currently offlineCIDflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2349 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1758 times:

I could also see maybe Allegiant doing some flights to LAS from XNA.

User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4706 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1700 times:

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 17):
F9 would be a lot more difficult.

Not with Q400s or CR7s



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