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B6 ORD -- What Gate?  
User currently offlineFLIGHTDECK787 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 25 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4231 times:

Does anyone know what gate/gates B6 will be using when the come to ORD in January?

[Edited 2006-11-18 10:59:04]

42 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3829 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4154 times:

One of the TV stations reported that jetBlue will use Gate E8 in Terminal 2 at ORD (the former America West gate).


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User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26150 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4144 times:

Was covered here. Also mentions ex America West gate.

http://www1.airliners.net/discussion...eneral_aviation/read.main/3063867/



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23302 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4072 times:

US is still (as of this week) using E8. Where are they going to put the third airplane when they need a third gate?


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User currently offlineGoBlue From Canada, joined Jun 2006, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3975 times:

So if Jetblue has a gate and facilities at ORD, other then landing slots are there any other factors holding B6 back from growing. I knwo the landing slots are hotly contested, and are all allocated, but is there even gate space if B6 were to want to increase operations in a few years?

Competition and route performance will be the true evaluation factor in expansion and such, but surely there are more obstacles in the way. Other then AA and UA not wanting there routes competed on!

Cheers


User currently offlineChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1619 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3946 times:

Quoting GoBlue (Reply 4):
So if Jetblue has a gate and facilities at ORD, other then landing slots are there any other factors holding B6 back from growing. I know the landing slots are hotly contested, and are all allocated, but is there even gate space if B6 were to want to increase operations in a few years?

LGB and JFK are offered by B6 just to have a small presence in CHI to cater to their customer base in NY and around LGB. Essentially, this is what it's about. B6 shouldn't and probably does not want to do any more than that in CHI. I can't hardly speak for the powers that be at B6, but it seems obvious to me.

So, to answer your question, gates are not available (or B6 would have more) and probably will not be available for B6 future expansion nor should B6 want additional gates.

I would be surprised if these routes produce any more than break even results, matter-of-fact, I would be surprised at break even.

M


User currently offlineTedex From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3931 times:

I believe NW is giving up a gate, look for US to move to E5 or 7. I think there's already a new US logo on one of the NW bridges.

User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23302 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3922 times:

Quoting Tedex (Reply 6):
I believe NW is giving up a gate, look for US to move to E5 or 7. I think there's already a new US logo on one of the NW bridges.

Yeah, I forgot about that. NW has shared E7 forever. Privatair has used that gate from time to time, and the only time NW really needs it is for RON. How many birds does US RON?



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User currently offlineScaledesigns From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3832 times:

I cant see B6 doing that well at ORD.Most AA pax going to JFK connect
to AA international flights.Business travelers on AA/UA like LGA better.
This entry into the Chicago ORD market is more talk than substance.
AA and UA will atleast match or beat the B6 fares.Also what about the B6 interline agreement or lack of.B6 belongs at MDW,not ORD.



F1 Tommy
User currently offlineCXA330300 From South Africa, joined May 2004, 1569 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3797 times:

Any chance B6 would consider ORD-Florida routes if and when they get established from JFK and LGB?


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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23302 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3715 times:

Quoting CXA330300 (Reply 9):
Any chance B6 would consider ORD-Florida routes if and when they get established from JFK and LGB?

Chicago-Florida is a bloodbath. Why would they want to get involved?



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User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3690 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 10):
Chicago-Florida is a bloodbath. Why would they want to get involved?

Yea its already full with WN, NK, FL, UA, AA, etc on Chicago-Florida routes. The NYC and LA to ORD routes make sense because its going after business and leisure travelers which is what they want to start aiming for, business and leisure crowds. Florida is to crowded from ORD/MDW and it would be tough to break into that.

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User currently offlineChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1619 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3684 times:

Quoting JetBlueAtJFK (Reply 11):
business and leisure crowds

What other crowds are there?

M


User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3684 times:

Quoting ChiGB1973 (Reply 12):
What other crowds are there?

No, opposed to just leisure from what they started as aiming for.

B6jfk airplane 



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User currently offlineOrdpark From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 576 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3610 times:
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I've been told that they will use E10...

User currently offlineCa2ohHP From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 955 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3576 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 3):
US is still (as of this week) using E8. Where are they going to put the third airplane when they need a third gate?

That's still being negotiated. Part of HP giving back the counter space in Terminal two was gate E-8, it was a package deal for B6.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23302 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3514 times:

Quoting Ca2ohHP (Reply 15):
Part of HP giving back the counter space in Terminal two was gate E-8, it was a package deal for B6.

There are 2 US RONs and 1 HP RON, right? So at least for that, they need three gates (I don't believe F8 and F10 can accomodate 3 aircraft, even if one is just on a stand).



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User currently offlineSilentObserver From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3468 times:

US/HP has been RONing 4 aircraft, on F6, F8, F10 and E8. E6 was given back to CO and F6 is borrowed from UX for RON use (For US east metal). E8 is not really RON, because they bring a plane in at like 2:30am and send it back to PHX at 5am, then get a flight from LAS at 5:30am an back out at 8:30am. They get great utilization on the HP side of the operation. 6 PHX/4LAS all to E8
6 CLT/5PHL/4PIT to F9-F10 so not as good on the US side. I am not sure why they need 4 gates, they are so efficant.

NW has dropped to 4 RONs and has given up E7 to US/HP although I have never seens an aircraft on the gate even though their logo is on the bridge now. I think there was talk of E8 going to CO and E4 going to B6, because its on the otherside of the tug tunnel under the concourse. This would give CO uninterupted gates from E6-E14 (Evens).


User currently offlineWDBRR From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 621 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3452 times:

what about Spirit (NK), what gate do they use?

User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23302 posts, RR: 20
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3427 times:

Quoting WDBRR (Reply 18):
what about Spirit (NK), what gate do they use?

DL handles them, generally (though not always) out of L7 or L9.



I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23302 posts, RR: 20
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3421 times:

Quoting SilentObserver (Reply 17):
NW has dropped to 4 RONs

Doesn't NW overnight 934, 142, 144, 1245, and 1247?



I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
User currently offlineHPAEAA From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1025 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3313 times:

what about DL? they have all that space over in L, are they perhaps giving up a gate?


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User currently offlineAirportplan From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 469 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3287 times:

Quoting HPAEAA (Reply 21):
what about DL? they have all that space over in L, are they perhaps giving up a gate?

Delta has subleased half of their 10 gates on L Concourse to AA. If I remember correctly I believe that the sublease runs through 2014.


User currently offlineB6FA4ever From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 819 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3266 times:

Quoting Ordpark (Reply 14):
I've been told that they will use E10...

hopefully that'll be our gate cause thats works for me! get a nice java boost in the middle of turning my flight from Starbucks!!

~B6FA4ever


User currently offlineBoeing 747-311 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 795 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3239 times:

whats a RON?

have a great day!



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25 B6FA4ever : Remain Over Night
26 Ca2ohHP : You're right. From the people I know there....that minor detail hasn't been resolved. Maybe there's room on the Delta gates (kidding). I was through
27 Ckfred : Actually, B6 had said for some time that they wanted 4 or 5 gates, so that ORD could be a focus city. So, starting at ORD with 1 gate caught some peo
28 WesternA318 : The a.net crowds? LOL, and how fast do you think UA/AA would respond to those routes?
29 Ckfred : Oh, I agree, although some people though B6 was going to come in with a significant operation, when UA's exit from Chaper 11 looked a little iffy.
30 Jerseyguy : I wonder if the DL/ US merger goes through , what does that do for available slots and gates.[Edited 2006-11-20 17:13:19]
31 AirportPlan : Most likely the merged carrier would abandon decrepit Terminal 2 and would operate out of Delta's L Concourse Gates since they are newer (Opened 1990
32 Cubsrule : UA LGA and EWR flights already do as they are Business 1 destinations. Is NK unhappy with their current setup? U5 might not be either as being over i
33 AirportPlan : NK or U5 might choose to stay at their current locations. But U5 in particular operates at the will of the International carriers who have first righ
34 Cubsrule : Just out of curiousity, to whom has NW done this?
35 FWAERJ : IIRC, NW or CO (I can't remember which one) subleased one of their ORD gates to Independence Air during their brief existence.
36 AirportPlan : TWA before their demise.
37 RedTailDTW : Continental subleased the gate, i think it was gate E12
38 Jetbluenyfl : Those are the main two crowds - but there are students, aviation fans, and last-minute, NON business travelers. Maybe as fast as they responded on ot
39 WesternA318 : But thos are not AA/UA fortresses. Anytime someone comes into the DAL/DFW market, AA usually chases them out with excess capacity. I for one, do hope
40 Cubsrule : I don't think it was subleased. I was under the impression that it was just a handling agreement a la DL and NK.
41 SilentObserver : going by the schedules for today, to support ops in the morning, they would need 5 RONs, but they clearly only use four gate, where can you store a p
42 Cubsrule : I hate to dredge up an old topic, but when I was at T-2 this morning, it looked like NW stuff (i.e. a podium) was being put in to E8, though the jetwa
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