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User currently offlinePaneuropean From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 882 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3637 times:

I flew UA 909 AMS-ORD on October 28th and returned on the 908 on November 16th, both on a 763. Both aircraft had a new fresh United livery, but were equiped with a nose in the old livery. BTW at ORD I saw two 767's at the C concourse in this awkward looking way.

I do know sometimes they exchange them with the 777 noses because they are similar, but I was curious why I see this now and then. Do you understand my first disappointed reaction the first time I stood face to face with this aircraft ?!
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User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 46
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3636 times:

Un-matched nose paint jobs are nothing new and are not limited to just United. It's an MX issue and sometimes the right radome cone isn't always available.

User currently offlineUnited777atGU From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3311 times:

That's really weird, I know. We see N643UA (No. 6343) at IAD, but I do not remember seeing another one...maybe that other '67 does some other routing which does not include IAD... I have seen Ted planes with the Wolf livery as well...


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User currently offline777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2501 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3217 times:

Wow - that would look pretty odd especially considering the huge disparity in color schemes (old and new). Anyone have any pics of this?


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User currently offlineJetset7E7 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1090 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3149 times:

There is a MyTravel 767 G-DAJC, which a Thomsonfly nose cone flying around at the moment.

Mark



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User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2888 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2808 times:

This is not an un-common thing especially with airlines that are going through a c/s change. Often times the ones in stock came back from repair while in the old c/s and do not get updated. There are also quite a few cases where ones in stock are completely white because they are new and have not been painted yet either.


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User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2759 times:

Quoting Paneuropean (Thread starter):
I do know sometimes they exchange them with the 777 noses because they are similar

I would think that they would have to be exactly the same to swap noses. Are you sure about that?


User currently offlineQ330 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1460 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2711 times:

Quoting 777fan (Reply 3):
Anyone have any pics of this?

There are lots in the database, here are a few:


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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2695 times:

Quoting FSPilot747 (Reply 6):
Quoting Paneuropean (Thread starter):
I do know sometimes they exchange them with the 777 noses because they are similar

I would think that they would have to be exactly the same to swap noses. Are you sure about that?

The radome (that is the proper name for the "nose") is interchangeable from one 777 to another. They are built that way so is a radome is damaged it can be replaced quickly.


User currently offlineJetdeltamsy From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2987 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2659 times:

Happens every day. It's just a nose piece that hasn't been repainted yet.


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User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2561 times:

Quoting 474218 (Reply 8):

The radome (that is the proper name for the "nose") is interchangeable from one 777 to another. They are built that way so is a radome is damaged it can be replaced quickly.

Yes, but you can't take a 777 radome and put it on a 767, as the original poster implied. (or at least that's what I thought he implied).


User currently offlineDornier328JET From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2552 times:

You also used to see this all the time when Air Wisconsin used to fly for them. A bunch of CRJ's had unmatching radomes.

User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2424 times:

Quoting FSPilot747 (Reply 10):

Yes, but you can't take a 777 radome and put it on a 767, as the original poster implied. (or at least that's what I thought he implied).

Actually I believe the nose section of a 777 (from the cockpit windows forward) is identical to the 767. I forget the technical name for the actual section number of the aircraft, however.

Someone else feel free to enlighten or correct.



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User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2376 times:

Quoting JBo (Reply 12):
Actually I believe the nose section of a 777 (from the cockpit windows forward) is identical to the 767. I forget the technical name for the actual section number of the aircraft, however.

In that case, I stand corrected. What threw me off is that they interchange them because they are "similar".. They'd have to be the same thing.


User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2707 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2316 times:

I was on a UA 744 (N118UA) from ORD to LAX in June and the livery was still in the old livery, but the left winglet was a replacement and painted in the new livery. Was still that way in October...


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User currently offlineHA_DC9 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 653 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2305 times:

Quoting JBo (Reply 12):
Actually I believe the nose section of a 777 (from the cockpit windows forward) is identical to the 767. I forget the technical name for the actual section number of the aircraft, however

I believe it is called Section 41.


User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2277 times:

You guys seriously know your stuff.

User currently offline777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2501 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2242 times:

Freaking hilarious, all of 'em! Great job and thanks for the pics, all!


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User currently offlinePaneuropean From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 882 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2128 times:

Quoting FSPilot747 (Reply 13):
In that case, I stand corrected. What threw me off is that they interchange them because they are "similar".. They'd have to be the same thing.

I wrote this because there were a few KLM 777 jets flying around with unmatched so- called radome's, probably taken from their 767's. If not similar, at least they are interchangeable. The blue lines on the radome didn't match with the fuselage. To me it looks very poor. Thank God this over very soon !


User currently offlineKL5147 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2005, 327 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1989 times:

A short while ago there was a similar topic about KLM nose cone painting.
http://www1.airliners.net/discussion...eneral_aviation/read.main/2951295/



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User currently offlinePaneuropean From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 882 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1889 times:

Quoting KL5147 (Reply 19):
A short while ago there was a similar topic about KLM nose cone painting.
http://www1.airliners.net/discussion...1295/

Thanks KL5147. That was the topic I was refering to. I was wondering before arriving at gate C11 at ORD last wednesday if the plane would have an unmatched radome as we had on the way to O'Hare from Schiphol. I forgot to look if the registrations were similar, but seeing another United a/c with the same unfinished livery, I thought this is quite common. As they fly the T7 as well, It reminded me of the KLM topic....

Now if only United would order some 787's to get rid of the lousy 767's

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User currently offlineORDZW From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 198 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1754 times:

Horizon's aircraft N616QX, flying as Frontier Jet Express, is painted with the Frontier colors and Mountain Goat tail, but has the Horizon scheme radome. It looks very odd, since Horizon has the brown and red cheatlines down the sides, whereas Frontier is all white forward of the front door.

I can't find any pictures of this aircraft with the mismatched nose, so it must have happened since April (the last picture taken of this aircraft).



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