Hardiwv From Netherlands, joined Oct 2004, 7578 posts, RR: 58 Posted (3 years 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 964 times:
Southern Hemisphere Summer is approaching and Italy-Northeast Brazil will have a record number of weekly charter flights: 11 weekly!
This week new announcements from Air Italy FCO-FOR-NAT weekly B757 and VRN-APY-FOR weekly B757 and Air Europa MXP-FOR-NAT weekly B763.
This will increase the number of destinations served by Italian charters in Northeast Brazil from 6 to 7: APY (Parnaiba) will receive service for the first time, in addition to SSA, FOR, NAT, REC, MCZ, and BPS.
These are the Charter operators:
- BPS, PORTO SEGURO - Livingston
- SSA, SALVADOR - Livingston, Blue Panorama Airlines e Neos Airlines
- MCZ, MACEIO - Livingston e Blue Panorama Airlines
- REC, RECIFE - Livingston
- NAT, NATAL - Blue Panorama Airlines, Air Italy e Air Europe
- FOR, FORTALEZA - Livingston, Neos Airlines, Air Italy e Air Europe
- APY, PARNAIBA - Air Italy
11 weekly flights, making Brazil the number 2 long-haul charter destination from Italy after Cuba.
LXM83 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 216 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 951 times:
Impressive number of flights and list of destinations, thanks for sharing.
Just a small correction: According to IATA, the code APY is Alto Parnaiba, Maranhao State, Brazil. The correct IATA code for Parnaiba, Piaui State, Brazil is PHB.
AirSpare From United States, joined Jun 2006, 589 posts, RR: 5 Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 876 times:
I have always been surprised TAM hasn't flown similar routes. NAT (Ponta Negra) is full of Italian tourists. I am a strong proponent of some Northeast direct to Europe routes for TAM, I'm sure they'd turn a tidy profit. Germany also. Varig used to fly MIA-REC, it was always loaded, but I think tourism (and maybe some cargo such as shrimp) will be more to Europe then the US.
LipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 7901 posts, RR: 63 Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 767 times:
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Thanks for sharing Hardi.
Also Hardi, add the only one Brazilian Airline flying charters: BRA will run a weekly service MXP-FOR-NAT-MXP.
All these services shows how the Brazilian Northeast is a strong market for a regular airline. Tap was the first one, Air Europe nowadays runs 5x weekly MAD-SSA (begins as a charter), Air Madrid 4x MAD-FOR, Iberostar MAD-SSA and there are more operators from many other European places.
Quoting AirSpare (Reply 3): I have always been surprised TAM hasn't flown similar routes. NAT (Ponta Negra) is full of Italian tourists.
Tam focus is on business market. We may see a MIA-NAT service in the future, even weekly.
Hardiwv From Netherlands, joined Oct 2004, 7578 posts, RR: 58 Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 700 times:
Quoting LXM83 (Reply 1): Just a small correction: According to IATA, the code APY is Alto Parnaiba, Maranhao State, Brazil. The correct IATA code for Parnaiba, Piaui State, Brazil is PHB.
You are correct, I was refering to PHB (Parnaiba, Piaui State).
Quoting Stirling (Reply 2): This flight will be stopping somewhere along the way will it not?
3880nm is a stretch for the 757....at least I thought it was.....
Indeed, most certainly it makes a technical stop-over in one of the Spanish Islands, probably TFE. But there are even longer B757 charter services into Northeast Brazil such as Finnair HEL-FOR-NAT and Czech Air PRG-FOR!
Quoting AirSpare (Reply 3): I have always been surprised TAM hasn't flown similar routes.
Quoting AirSpare (Reply 3): Varig used to fly MIA-REC, it was always loaded
TAM operates a weekly regular REC-CDG A330. TAM also runs SSA-MIA weekly A330 and daily FOR-BEL-MAO-MIA A320. Certainly there is room for more regular services. Usually it is said that charter flights pave the way for regular services.
Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 5): Also Hardi, add the only one Brazilian Airline flying charters: BRA will run a weekly service MXP-FOR-NAT-MXP.
You are right, Lipe.
Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 5): All these services shows how the Brazilian Northeast is a strong market for a regular airline. Tap was the first one, Air Europe nowadays runs 5x weekly MAD-SSA (begins as a charter), Air Madrid 4x MAD-FOR, Iberostar MAD-SSA and there are more operators from many other European places.
Agree. TAP now runs regular daily flights to FOR, REC, SSA, and 6 x week NAT. They have certainly carved out an important niche market and I would even said that TAP survival hinged on its Northeast Brazilian market.
In addition to regular 4 x week MAD-FOR, Air Madrid also runs a regular weekly BCN-FOR A333.
Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 5): and there are more operators from many other European places.
Indeed, Martinair operates twice weekly B763 AMS-FOR, and there are also operators flying AMS-BPS, AMS-NAT and AMS-SSA. There is a multitude of charter operators currently working in Northeast Brazil.
2005/2006 was also a landmark as it represented the return of regular UK charter flights to Northeast Brazil, with First Choice leading the way: LGW-NAT weekly and MAN-SSA weekly.
I must say that numbers for Northeast Brazil look indeed very impressive. If Brazilian authorities decide to eliminate VISA requirement for US citizens I'm sure tourism US-Northeast Barzil would also boom.
Hardiwv From Netherlands, joined Oct 2004, 7578 posts, RR: 58 Reply 7, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 631 times:
Overall, charter flights from Italy to Northeast Brazil will look as follows starting December/06 (excluding charters operated by Brazilian airlines such as BRA):
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MONDAYs
- Blue Panorama Airlines: MXP-MCZ-SSA-MXP
TUESDAYS
- Livingston: MXP-REC-MXP
- Air Italy: VRN-MHP-FOR-VRN
WEDNESDAYS
- Livingston: MXP-BPS-GIG-MXP
THURSDAYS
- Neos Airlines: MXP-FOR-SSA-MXP
FRIDAYS
- Livingston: MXP-SSA-MCZ-MAP
- Neos Airlines: MXP-SSA-MXP
- Air Italy: FCO-FOR-NAT-FCO
- Blue Panorama Airlines: FCO-MXP-NAT-MXP-FCO
SATURDAYS
- no flights
SUNDAYS
- Livingston: MXP-FOR-MXP
- Air Europe: MXP-FOR-NAT-MXP
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