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Aborted Landing At LGW Yesterday  
User currently offlineTjr16698 From Italy, joined Feb 2004, 61 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6533 times:

Dear all

I was walking accross the new North Terminal bridge at Gatwick yesterday for my flight to Pisa when I saw an incoming flight (didn't get chance to see which carrier) have to pull up pretty dramatically to avoid landing on the EK 777 to Dubai that moved onto the runway to start its takeoff.

Anyone know what happened?

Cheers

Russ

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User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6512 times:

Happens about three or four times a day at LGW - no big deal.

More likely the EK 777 didnt get off quick enough and the incoming flight had to G/A. Happens all the time at LGW - its perfectly safe.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineSpeedBird203 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 295 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6343 times:

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 1):
Happens about three or four times a day at LGW - no big deal.

More likely the EK 777 didnt get off quick enough and the incoming flight had to G/A. Happens all the time at LGW - its perfectly safe.

I wouldn't say perfectly safe lol, Just kidding, Yes from my previous visits to LGW that does happen, Doesn't it make you wonder with LHR being busier and not far away.. How does LHR react to this.. They have planes landing i think its like every 55 - 60 secs... If there's a new pilot that doesn't recognise the airfield or misses the taxiway to exit and the next ones a far bit of way down.. The next aircraft would have to go around... At Heathrow with a holding delay would this go around aircraft get any priority or would he be put back into the hold at 8000 FT



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User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3566 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6331 times:

I was just at Gatwick yesterday as well. Easy Jet 5493 LGW-PRG. Saw the Emirates jet, didn't see this happen. About what time did it happen?


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User currently offlineSpeedbird128 From Pitcairn Islands, joined Oct 2003, 1648 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6294 times:

Quoting SpeedBird203 (Reply 2):
If there's a new pilot that doesn't recognise the airfield or misses the taxiway to exit and the next ones a far bit of way down..

Heathrow is able to get away with the land after quite often... The schlep with LGW is the single runway ops and some of the pilots that fly into there aren't accustomed to high-density traffic...

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 1):
More likely the EK 777

Maybe... Maybe not... It's difficult to say without being there... Maybe...



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User currently offlineFeroze From India, joined Dec 2004, 794 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6103 times:

Quoting SpeedBird203 (Reply 2):
Doesn't it make you wonder with LHR being busier and not far away.. How does LHR react to this.. They have planes landing i think its like every 55 - 60 secs... If there's a new pilot that doesn't recognise the airfield or misses the taxiway to exit and the next ones a far bit of way down.. The next aircraft would have to go around... At Heathrow with a holding delay would this go around aircraft get any priority or would he be put back into the hold at 8000 FT

I was travelling on a VS A346 last week and approaching 27L at LHR. Seconds before touchdown (I could see Hatton Cross tube station and the maintenance hangars), the engines roared back into life and we were G/A. Apparently the previous landing aircraft had not yet vacated the runway. We did have priority to land and didn't go back into the holding pattern. We were on the ground less than 15 minutes later. Quite an experience!


User currently offlineBA777ER236 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2006, 278 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5996 times:

Quoting SpeedBird203 (Reply 2):
At Heathrow with a holding delay would this go around aircraft get any priority or would he be put back into the hold at 8000 FT

This question has been clarified for us recently by ATC at LHR. We have been notified that we can expect a 40NM radar circuit after such an event which will take about 12 minutes, and in our case, about 800kg of fuel.

So, no it won't mean a climb back up to the hold, probably a climb to 4000ft and a radar circuit from the initial go-around track.

Quoting Tjr16698 (Thread starter):
have to pull up pretty dramatically to avoid landing on the EK 777 to Dubai that moved onto the runway to start its takeoff.

I'm sure that the crew would have been using standard go-around procedures, which for most types would involve the immediate application of go-around thrust, increasing pitch to about 15 degrees and selecting flaps to the appropriate position. The manouvre is designed to involve a minimum loss of altitude in a low visibility or bad weather scenario. As a result, it can & does look fairly dramatic from a bystanders point of view.

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 1):
Happens about three or four times a day at LGW - no big deal.

Absolutely, the ATC boys/girls at LGW do a great job of squeezing the maximum capacity out of a single runway at a very busy international airport, I take my hat of to them. Just occasionally though, it does go wrong as there are lots of variables, and a go-around results.

 Smile



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User currently offlineTjr16698 From Italy, joined Feb 2004, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5851 times:

Quoting 777STL (Reply 3):
I was just at Gatwick yesterday as well. Easy Jet 5493 LGW-PRG. Saw the Emirates jet, didn't see this happen. About what time did it happen?

It was at 13:50. I was watching the incoming flight approach, and then the EK 777 moved onto the runway and started rolling. The incoming pulled up when it was above the start of the runway. They were nowhere near collision but it was a little closer than comfortable.


User currently offlineSpeedBird203 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 295 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5117 times:

Thanks for that information... I thought they would have some priority... Let's hope everything goes nice and smooth for my arrival on Saturday... Although that would be an experience.


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User currently offline8herveg From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5104 times:

Quoting Feroze (Reply 5):
G/A.

Could someone explain what this means?


User currently offlineYvr99 From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5063 times:

Quoting 8herveg (Reply 9):
Could someone explain what this means?

G/A = Go Around or Going Around maybe in the case of the original poster.



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User currently offlineFeroze From India, joined Dec 2004, 794 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4885 times:

Quoting 8herveg (Reply 9):

Quoting Feroze (Reply 5):
G/A.

Could someone explain what this means?

Going Around. Apologies for the abbreviation.


User currently offlineFlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4830 times:

Fairly typical for things like this to happen at busy single runway or mixed operation airports (airports that alternate take offs and landings on the same runway), and occurs less frequently (but still occurs) at airports like LHR that run with one runway just landing and another dedicated to taking off.

I find them kind of fun, myself. You have no idea what a 757 can do until you have do a g/a fairly last minute.......



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