Bicoastal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5401 times:
It is not allowed in the USA unless one is meeting an unaccompanied child, an infirm relative or some other special circumstance. Only one person is allowed to accompany them to the gate and the escort requires a gate pass obtained from a counter agent of the airline on which the person they are meeting or accompanying is traveling. Sometimes groups of people coordinate their arrival times and wait at the gates for others to arrive before proceeding outside of security. Maybe that's what you saw.
Imagine how bad the security line would be if they let everyone through??!!
Spacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3365 posts, RR: 13 Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5187 times:
Quoting Bicoastal (Reply 1): Imagine how bad the security line would be if they let everyone through??!!
In the old days, this is the way it was. (By "old days" I mean like 15 years ago; not that far in the past.) There were always big crowds of people waiting at gates. They had to go through security, but that was no big deal back then - it was just an x-ray machine and most greeters weren't carrying anything anyway.
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Reins485 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 136 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 5152 times:
I regularly fly AA between STL and BNA and there are lot of soldiers on this route flying home to BNA. And almost everytime that I have a flight with a few of them there are family members waiting in the gate area for their family member. I don't know if its just BNA that lets families and friends of men and women serving our country into the gate area.
Centrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3597 posts, RR: 21 Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4917 times:
I think even if 9/11 hadn't happened saying goodbye before security is better.
You no longer have the aunt, uncle, 2nd cousin once removed, brothers, sisters and parents all going to the gate to see off the one kid flying off to the coast to go to school (I flew out of MSP for years). It was just a hassle. First you had the 120 some people waiting to get on the DC9 (NW) and then all their relatives seeing them off. Just too many people. Those with long transits might want to sit and having to deal with Aunt Bitty who is just there to see off Niece Suzy for a seat is just annoying.
Back in the before time at MSP when everyone in the world went through security, the halls between gates were so crowded that one couldn't move. I remember having to make some tight transfers around 5:00pm from what is now gate C6 to what is now gate G21 (pre concourse bridge) and dodging more people than I would have liked.
Even now some concourses can be hard to move around in as they are too narrow for the amount of pax traveling and transiting.
That all being said. When I come out of security at MSP, I like seeing my family but that space is just too small for family and getting ones bags. Wish I could pick up my bags before exiting the secure area like I do in Japan.
The one thing I am curious about is what the thread starter is saying about Australia. Can one go to the gate in Australia? I would think that this is not possible.
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HKGKaiTak From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 1050 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4881 times:
Quoting Centrair (Reply 13): You no longer have the aunt, uncle, 2nd cousin once removed, brothers, sisters and parents all going to the gate to see off the one kid flying off to the coast to go to school
I might add that even though it's possible to do this in Oz, not many people do. You only really see a couple of people at the most meeting each flight. I've met relatives off at the gate when I've been the only person to do so.
IMHO the exorbitant cost of airport parking has ensured people stay away from airports if they aren't travelling ...
As I said before, the security lines are usually very short. Maybe I fly at odd times but I've never queued up for more than 30 seconds at any Australian domestic terminal.
Could you imagine how crowded the concourses at some airports (like ATL) would be if they still allowed non-ticketed people past security?
Note the words if they still allowed.
My point is (and was) that five years ago you could pass through the metal detectiors and go to the gate to meet or say goodbye to a passenger. It wasn't that crowded then so there is no reason why it would be crowded now.
Centrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3597 posts, RR: 21 Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4876 times:
Quoting Aussieindc (Reply 14): Yes, at domestic terminals in Australia, Joe Bloggs and his wife can go and meet, greet or say goodbye to whoever they choose. It's only at boarding that your boarding pass is presented.
Australia...the last bastion of gate goodbyes. Impressive.
Was there a post 9/11 discussion about limiting this practice? Or was it just deemed safe enough that anyone could go to a domestic gate and wish someone off or meet someone?
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UnitedMSY From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4823 times:
Yeah its still bad even with the ticketed pax rule. I am tired of having pax snare at me when I have to squeeze to the front of the line, it really makes me laugh. I know of a Captain one time who got snared at, so he kindly walked to the back of the line, delayed the flight, and then told the pax "I am sorry but this flight is delayed due to your crew waiting at security", so obviously people missed connections and stuff....