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Airbus Press Conference, Live Online Today  
User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7334 times:

For those interested, Airbus will broadcast her press conference in London, concerning the global market forecast, live at their site. The press conference is scheduled at 10.30 AM GMT, today 22.11.2006


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User currently offlineBringiton From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 866 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7334 times:

Thx . Hopefully some A350 questions would be answered.

User currently offlineAtnight From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 606 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7325 times:

I also hope they finally launch their A350 program and share more information on the A380 program.....


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User currently offlineOsiris30 From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3186 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7315 times:

Anyone else have a mixed feeling about this announcement. Half of me is expecting 'it's late... again.... oops' and half of me is expecting they will get on with business...


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User currently offlineLeelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7281 times:



User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 7184 times:

Quoting Osiris30 (Reply 3):
Anyone else have a mixed feeling about this announcement.

It doesn't look like this press conference is set up to make any announcements regarding the status of the A350 program.

But never say never, it has been rumoured for a few days now that the A350 will get her 'go ahead' before the end of the month, perhaps Mr. Leahy has some surprises this evening (or morning, wherever you're watching).



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User currently offlineCobra27 From Slovenia, joined May 2001, 1008 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6962 times:

Is there a link to live broadcast. I couldn't find it

User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 6605 times:

Press conference just finished.

Some highlights,

-Airbus has 619 orders YTD.
(508 at the end of october, makes 111 so far this month of which 52 for Easyjet).
-Airbus forecast 23000 aircraft in the next 20 years, about 1300 VLA's.
-Mr. Leahy said he's talking to several customers who might purchase extra A380s and is also in talks to a low cost carrier for A330s (his answer when asked if low cost carriers might be interested in the A380).



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User currently offlineDougbr2006 From Brazil, joined Oct 2006, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 6442 times:

An enormous amount of airframes.

Single aisle around 15,300

Two aisle twin-jets around 5,300

Large A380/B747 1,600

Also the second speaker mentioned and I quote "that is why we will have the A350" so a launch looks immanent.

Looks like a A320/B737 replacement should be a top priority for both manufacturers.


User currently offlineOsiris30 From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3186 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 6426 times:

Quoting Dougbr2006 (Reply 8):
Single aisle around 15,300

Two aisle twin-jets around 5,300

Large A380/B747 1,600

Interesting.. here's Boeing take for a similar time period:

RJ - 3,450
SA - 16,540
TA - 6,230
747+ - 990

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/cmo/index.html



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User currently offlineDougbr2006 From Brazil, joined Oct 2006, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 6380 times:

Quoting Osiris30 (Reply 9):
Interesting.. here's Boeing take for a similar time period:

RJ - 3,450
SA - 16,540
TA - 6,230
747+ - 990

Interesting as Embraer on 17 November gave their estimates for RJ's 30 to 120 seats as 7,500 units. Period 2007-2026

Market Segment (Seats)

30-60 Seats - 1,400 Units
61-90 Seats - 2,600 Units
91-120 Seats - 3,500 Units

Total aircraft 7,500 Units


User currently offlineCM767 From Panama, joined Dec 2004, 651 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6162 times:

Quoting Dougbr2006 (Reply 10):
Market Segment (Seats)

30-60 Seats - 1,400 Units
61-90 Seats - 2,600 Units
91-120 Seats - 3,500 Units

One question about E. figures vs B., is 91-120 Seats a RJ market or SA, must of us claim that the E-190 and the E-195 are not RJs.

Any figures from Bombardier?



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User currently offlineAstuteman From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 9946 posts, RR: 96
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5924 times:
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Quoting Osiris30 (Reply 9):
SA - 16,540
TA - 6,230

If those figures are in any way accurate, then sustainable output (across all manufacturers) should average

Single aisle - 825 per annum
Twin aisle - 310 per annum

(+ 50 VLA's per annum (or 80 VLA's from AB's numbers) )

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User currently offlineDougbr2006 From Brazil, joined Oct 2006, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5739 times:

Quoting CM767 (Reply 11):
One question about E. figures vs B., is 91-120 Seats a RJ market or SA, must of us claim that the E-190 and the E-195 are not RJs

Maybe that is why Northwest are thinking of replacing DC's with the E190's. Perhaps the definition is changing. That order is said to be looming or is it the 100 reserves made when they placed the order for E170's last month. reserve slots then convert to an order next year!


User currently offlineOsiris30 From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3186 posts, RR: 26
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5657 times:

Quoting Astuteman (Reply 12):
If those figures are in any way accurate, then sustainable output (across all manufacturers) should average

Single aisle - 825 per annum
Twin aisle - 310 per annum

Which is why Boeing isn't in a rush to up production on widebodies.



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User currently offlineSSTsomeday From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 1276 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2873 times:

Did anyone else find the substance of this press conference unsatifying?

It seems they are only willing to talk about "good news," like increased forecasts of A/C demand well into the future, which is not Airbus specific.

Nothing about 350 developments or progress on 380 production...

Where's the beef? Talk about your "Lunchbag Letdown."



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User currently offlineOsiris30 From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3186 posts, RR: 26
Reply 16, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2768 times:

Quoting SSTsomeday (Reply 15):
Did anyone else find the substance of this press conference unsatifying?

It seems they are only willing to talk about "good news," like increased forecasts of A/C demand well into the future, which is not Airbus specific.

Nothing about 350 developments or progress on 380 production...

Where's the beef? Talk about your "Lunchbag Letdown."

It's just hollow press BS... they both do it (B & A).. it comes with the territory...



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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12285 posts, RR: 47
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2736 times:
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Quoting SSTsomeday (Reply 15):
It seems they are only willing to talk about "good news," like increased forecasts of A/C demand well into the future, which is not Airbus specific.

Nothing about 350 developments or progress on 380 production...

Where's the beef? Talk about your "Lunchbag Letdown."

Since the press conference was was specifically called for Airbus to present their "Global Market Forecast", what did you expect it to be about?

I don't understand your beef! wink 



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User currently offlineSSTsomeday From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 1276 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2601 times:

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 17):
Since the press conference was was specifically called for Airbus to present their "Global Market Forecast", what did you expect it to be about?

I don't understand your beef!

I suspect the aviation press (not just we enthusiasts) were hoping for something more substantive. They could have just sent a press release to the papers for THAT.
 Wink



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User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 19, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2584 times:

Quoting Manni (Reply 7):
-Airbus has 619 orders YTD.
(508 at the end of october, makes 111 so far this month of which 52 for Easyjet).

Is that Net or gross?

Boeing is
Gross 829
Net 822
Change -7

I guess Airbus only needs 203 to 210 orders to take the the lead.



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User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 20, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2553 times:

Centrair,

Mr. Leahy did not say that. I suspect that this total is gross. For the real number of cancellations we will have to wait untill Airbus releases the number somewhere in januari. Some members try to keep up to date with cancellations, but those can't be with 100% certainty taken as correct.

Quoting Centrair (Reply 19):
I guess Airbus only needs 203 to 210 orders to take the the lead.

Mr. Leahy has already said that he does not expect to overtake Boeing, this year. They do have a sufficient number of pending orders to add roughly another 250 or so aircraft, but that's without looking at Boeings pending orders and without deducting any of those pending Airbus orders that might be included in the YTD total.



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