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CO Cutting IAH-PSP  
User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3924 posts, RR: 7
Posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3560 times:

Looks like we are cutting PSP service starting May 2. Obviously seems like a reduction due to the COEX deal.


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32627 posts, RR: 72
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3529 times:

Maybe the year-round route is going seasonal? Palm Springs is a big winter market.

Lot's of cuts on Continental from Houston lately...Flores, Punta Cana, Hartford, and now Palm Springs.

[Edited 2006-11-22 18:10:12]


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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3924 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3510 times:

BDL comes back starting in May. But nothing in the books for PSP at the moment. maybe we will revert back to our old seasonal service of 737-500s during the winter months???............


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User currently offlineIahflyr From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3370 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 1):
Lot's of cuts on Continental from Houston lately...Flores, Punta Cana, Hartford, and now Palm Springs.

Gee I wonder why??? Can't wait to see those lovely CRJ2's.....ick.



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User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6098 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3221 times:

PSP is truely a seasonal destination. I can see CO restarting winter service with a 737.

ASLAX



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User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3214 times:

No CLE-SRQ or DAB this winter either.


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User currently offlineFlyboyaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2988 times:

Good in a way...now maybe we won't get the flight diverted to TUS anymore....happened too many times!! lol

User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24902 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2915 times:

Quoting AS739X (Reply 4):
PSP is truely a seasonal destination.

Actually its becoming more and more of a year-round travel market particularly as the local population continues to grow as a result of the LA metro area shifting eastwards.

The Coachella Valley area which includes Palm Springs, Palm Desert, Ranch Mirage has seen near 6% annual population growth rates, plus add in folks from communities such as Moreno Valley, Redlands, Banning which might find using PSP more convenient then heading West to ONT.

More and more airlines are realising this and are offering ever growing year-round flights to the area. PSP as a result continues to experience strong growth in volumes which has grown at 7.6% so far this year, the fastest of any SoCal airport.


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User currently offlineCMHSRQ From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 990 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2762 times:

Quoting CLE757 (Reply 5):
No CLE-SRQ or DAB this winter either

CLE-SRQ is bookable on continental.com. It starts in late Dec ends early Jan and then restarts Feb 15th, same as last year.



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User currently offlineBriguy1974 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2716 times:

Is CO having aircraft availability issues or are they cleaning house on unprofitable routes? I keep waiting to hear about issues facing CO when express jet planes start leaving....

User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2700 times:

Quoting CMHSRQ (Reply 8):
CLE-SRQ is bookable on continental.com. It starts in late Dec ends early Jan and then restarts Feb 15th, same as last year.

You are right!...They must of put it in the schedule not too long ago.



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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3924 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2692 times:

yes, we will be having a little shortage of airplanes to fly these routes. its going to be interesting once these planes leave how we will continue serving each city with the same number of flights we offer today>


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User currently offlineAAflyguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 358 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2658 times:

This will be very interesting for PSP. As another a.netter already stated, the pax traffic there is very healthy, up nearly 8% from what was a record year in 2005. All indications are that the airport will serve about 1,525,000 passengers this year, more than 100K above last year. I do know that profits on the route were not consistent, but that it was showing marked improvement. When I last heard (about 4mos ago), CO management was solidly behind the route. With the loss of several dozen aircraft, however, PSP may have been one of those unfortunate low-hanging fruit routes.

PSP may, in fact, revert to being a seasonal mainline route for CO. That's the way it began back in the late 90s. The XRJ was the aircraft that made year-round PSP-IAH possible, otherwise, it would have continued as seasonal if operated by mainline equipment.

This will only mean more business for AA, since it operated 2x daily PSP-DFW during the summer for the first time ever this year, and the load factor was in the upper 80s throughout, with a doubling of capacity. AA's next step for PSP is likely to be a year-round ORD flight.

I would hate to see CO leave PSP, or reduce to seasonal service, because I put in a lot of time and effort into getting it into place, especially the year-round upgrade. But it may be inevitable, given the current circumstances concerning the fleet in 2007. It may not be the market as much as it is aircraft constraints. In summer 2005, the flight operated as a red-eye for the first time, because it was either that or nothing. This was the case once again for summer 2006. So the fleet is already spread pretty thin, and it's just going to get worse if no replacement carrier is selected for the ERJs soon to be lost.

AAflyguy


User currently offlineKAUSpilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1958 posts, RR: 33
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2638 times:

Blame Kellner and Smisek for trying to lowball Expressjet. They should've known that no one else has 50 seat aircraft with the range to serve PSP, BOI, and others. Expect to see more CO routes disappear soon.

[Edited 2006-11-27 17:43:27]

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