RichM From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 589 posts, RR: 3 Reply 1, posted (2 years 11 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1221 times:
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Yes, I was thinking of leasing a few myself actually.
On a serious note with regards to aircraft leasing, you may find some information on www.ilfc.com. I'm not quite sure as to what information they publish though.
CRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 1653 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (2 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1059 times:
www.gecas.com has a lot of information about these types too including the A318. But they don't list prices. However, send them a letter or email and ask
I guess all the types are quite expensive as there is not a surplus fleet of any of them and they are built to order only. On the other hand, GECAS is a HUGE buyer of aircraft from all four manufacturers, so I guess they get nice discounts...
Penguinflies From United States, joined Apr 2000, 923 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 838 times:
It also depends on where the aircraft are being leased from (gecas vs EMB vs Boeing, or Bomabardier), maintenance packages, and term (5-15 years) and how much money down the airline provides.
Obviously, the lower the lease rate, the higher the down payment, shorter the tip to tail warranty, the longer the lease or the age of the ship. Probably a combination of those factors plus additional market forces.
Bombardier seems to have the most attractive overall plan, seeing as they are trying to keep a brisk delivery pace, keep market share and profit, but their leases are extremely long: 10-15 years minimum for the lowest monthly payment. With most codeshare contracts beginning to be shorter (less than 10 years) that could mean trouble for "regionals" in the future and opportunities for them to redeploy aircraft to supplement many major airlines.
Negotiation is the key...and what type of lease we're talking about; wet-lease, dry-lease, and all the variations thereof.
Simple answer is that there is no answer.
Interesting however, looking at the E190/CR9 and 736/318, the smaller aircraft are more to lease, but then operating costs are more in line with the type of loads one might expect....
It all proves the point running a profitable airline is more than a snazzy paint scheme and chic name...
Nseljac77 From United States, joined Apr 2006, 19 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 619 times:
What about a B737-300 instead? It is bigger, it is cheaper ($100,000- $190,000)and it has a longer range. Ok, it is less fuel efficient but it is easy to find.
What could be the issues with that shortcut that assuming that it is for a low cost / high density / medium range market?