Centrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3126 times:
Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 5): Never! Considered how slot restricted and all difficulties and hassle for AM was to get into NRT... more over, AFAIK, AM has a 3rd slot in case they want to increase operations and that's about it!
MX expansion is on a different route compared to AM's.
Never is a pretty strong word to you. Especially if you limit Japan to NRT. In 2009 the second runway extension will be completed and more long-haul slots will be available. Many of those I think will go to new carriers wanting to serve over existing carriers. As I said before don't limit things to NRT. Japan doesn't equal Tokyo. NGO had tried to get AM's service but NRT gave them slots which are more desired over over other destinations. Of course serving NRT is more beneficial for an airline but if you want to get your foot in the door it is better to start service to Japan and then hope that it puts you in better standing for getting slots when they become available. This is why EK serves NGO and KIX but not NRT....foot in the door. MX could and will have to expand in more especially with LCCs poping up in Mexico. Also the demand for flying to South America from Asia is growing quickly and it would wise for an airline like MX to tap into it. They already have offices all over the world including NRT and HKG.
Yes...I am not a KIX fan. Let's Japanese Aviation!
Ghost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5197 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3116 times:
As much as I would like to see MX in JP as well as other destinations I'm not holding my breathe...for that to happen. What I DO expect is MX in China before Beijing 2008. Unfortunately too, MX is not EK... they don't have that money on reserves as well as it is now PRIVATELY owned, I'm sure Grupo Posadas (MX owners) can't do what AM as a government airline is doing and expanding abroad as probably should have done several years ago!
Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
Jimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3105 times:
Quoting Centrair (Reply 7): Never is a pretty strong word to you. Especially if you limit Japan to NRT
At this stage, the route network between MEXICANA and AeroMexico is pretty much complementing on e another except some trunk routes have competition. Otherwise, they're pretty much "1 single" airline, to be exact.
Adriaticus From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1117 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2976 times:
Quoting Jimyvr (Reply 9): At this stage, the route network between MEXICANA and AeroMexico is pretty much complementing on e another except some trunk routes have competition. Otherwise, they're pretty much "1 single" airline, to be exact.
That is pretty much how things were when both companies and their respective regional airlines (Aerolitoral and Aerocaribe, later Click) were under the control of CINTRA, the state-run holding company. MX has been sold to private hands ever since (the Azcarraga family, owners of the Posadas hotels group, which include Caesar Park, Fiesta Americana, The Explorean hotels, among others). Both MX and AM have since then been diversifying their route network, albeit they still keep numerous codeshare flights and the ability to mutually give FF miles or kilometers to eachother's pax in their respective flights. This long, forceful honeymoon is coming to an end.
MX has no codeshare with BA, only the i-ETKT so MX can check inn passengers traveling with MX and BA if they have an E-TKT-
MX right now has no plans to enter any alliance -oneworld, etc- , also for Asia hopefully we will MEX-TIJ/MXL-PVG next year if everything goes as planned, also maybe KIX will be a good option, but really expensive.
Life is what happens when you have other plans.....