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JAL Adds Mexicana Codeshare On YVR-MEX  
User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3369 times:

Starting 01DEC, JAL will add a new codeshare route with MEXICANA.

JL5788 YVR1300-2025MEX x14 319

The codeshare, currently on one-way basis, will complement JAL's 2 weekly YVR-MEX on Day 14.

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User currently offlineDYK From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 407 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3241 times:

is the JL/AM codeshare discountinued?


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User currently offlinePlanemanofnz From New Zealand, joined Sep 2005, 1653 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3230 times:

How is JL'S MEX service doing anyway? And why is this codeshare only one way?

User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3184 times:

Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 2):
And why is this codeshare only one way?

MEXICANA arrives YVR 1120 and JAL departs at 1115. Basically 24hrs. They already have few similar ones at LAX to some Mexican cities, so probably they want to avoid it or something.

Quoting DYK (Reply 1):
is the JL/AM codeshare discountinued?

Still in effect, since AM place its code on JL's 2 weekly YVR-MEX.


User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3176 times:

The ultimate question is when will Mexicana try and get service to Japan like AM.

Wonder if MX will join an alliance sometime soon.



Yes...I am not a KIX fan. Let's Japanese Aviation!
User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5197 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3132 times:

Quoting Centrair (Reply 4):
The ultimate question is when will Mexicana try and get service to Japan like AM.

Never! Considered how slot restricted and all difficulties and hassle for AM was to get into NRT... more over, AFAIK, AM has a 3rd slot in case they want to increase operations and that's about it!

MX expansion is on a different route compared to AM's.

g77 APM



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineCXA330300 From South Africa, joined May 2004, 1553 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3129 times:

Would JL ever expand service to MEX?


The sky is the limit as long as you can stay there
User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3126 times:

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 5):
Never! Considered how slot restricted and all difficulties and hassle for AM was to get into NRT... more over, AFAIK, AM has a 3rd slot in case they want to increase operations and that's about it!

MX expansion is on a different route compared to AM's.

Never is a pretty strong word to you. Especially if you limit Japan to NRT. In 2009 the second runway extension will be completed and more long-haul slots will be available. Many of those I think will go to new carriers wanting to serve over existing carriers. As I said before don't limit things to NRT. Japan doesn't equal Tokyo. NGO had tried to get AM's service but NRT gave them slots which are more desired over over other destinations. Of course serving NRT is more beneficial for an airline but if you want to get your foot in the door it is better to start service to Japan and then hope that it puts you in better standing for getting slots when they become available. This is why EK serves NGO and KIX but not NRT....foot in the door. MX could and will have to expand in more especially with LCCs poping up in Mexico. Also the demand for flying to South America from Asia is growing quickly and it would wise for an airline like MX to tap into it. They already have offices all over the world including NRT and HKG.



Yes...I am not a KIX fan. Let's Japanese Aviation!
User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5197 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3116 times:

As much as I would like to see MX in JP as well as other destinations I'm not holding my breathe...for that to happen. What I DO expect is MX in China before Beijing 2008. Unfortunately too, MX is not EK... they don't have that money on reserves as well as it is now PRIVATELY owned, I'm sure Grupo Posadas (MX owners) can't do what AM as a government airline is doing and expanding abroad as probably should have done several years ago!

ghost77 APM



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3105 times:

Quoting Centrair (Reply 7):
Never is a pretty strong word to you. Especially if you limit Japan to NRT

At this stage, the route network between MEXICANA and AeroMexico is pretty much complementing on e another except some trunk routes have competition. Otherwise, they're pretty much "1 single" airline, to be exact.


User currently offlineAdriaticus From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1117 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2976 times:

Quoting Jimyvr (Reply 9):
At this stage, the route network between MEXICANA and AeroMexico is pretty much complementing on e another except some trunk routes have competition. Otherwise, they're pretty much "1 single" airline, to be exact.

That is pretty much how things were when both companies and their respective regional airlines (Aerolitoral and Aerocaribe, later Click) were under the control of CINTRA, the state-run holding company. MX has been sold to private hands ever since (the Azcarraga family, owners of the Posadas hotels group, which include Caesar Park, Fiesta Americana, The Explorean hotels, among others). Both MX and AM have since then been diversifying their route network, albeit they still keep numerous codeshare flights and the ability to mutually give FF miles or kilometers to eachother's pax in their respective flights. This long, forceful honeymoon is coming to an end.

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User currently offlineJayce From Canada, joined Nov 1999, 520 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2904 times:

Quoting CXA330300 (Reply 6):
Would JL ever expand service to MEX?

They already do, twice weekly via YVR.



"Trying is the first step towards failure" -Homer Simpson
User currently offlineJAL From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 5078 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2872 times:

Putting Mexicana that much closer to becoming a OneWorld member!


Work Hard But Play Harder
User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2869 times:

What other OneWorld members does MX codeshare with? I know they codeshare with AA. How about the other carriers?


Yes...I am not a KIX fan. Let's Japanese Aviation!
User currently offlineN659AA From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2843 times:

Quoting Centrair (Reply 13):
What other OneWorld members does MX codeshare with? I know they codeshare with AA. How about the other carriers?

IB and BA


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7523 posts, RR: 43
Reply 15, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2807 times:

MX also codeshares with LA.


Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineJopavon From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 304 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2707 times:

And QF also has a codeshare in place with MX.

There was also an announcement long time ago that MX was to codeshare with CX but it is not in the GDS yet.

That will only leave BA, AY and EI.



Come fly Mexicana, to Mexico!
User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2698 times:

Quoting N659AA (Reply 14):

IB and BA

MX didn't codeshare with BA

Quoting Jopavon (Reply 16):
There was also an announcement long time ago that MX was to codeshare with CX but it is not in the GDS yet.

Hong Kong and Mexico reached a new bilateral deal last week, so probably CX/MX is on the horizon soon.


User currently offlineN405MX From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1378 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2663 times:

Quoting Jimyvr (Reply 17):
Hong Kong and Mexico reached a new bilateral deal last week, so probably CX/MX is on the horizon soon.

Indeed, time ago it was announced the codeshare between CX and MX, also if i remember right MX can check in luggage to CX flights.

Quoting Jimyvr (Reply 17):
MX didn't codeshare with BA

MX has no codeshare with BA, only the i-ETKT so MX can check inn passengers traveling with MX and BA if they have an E-TKT-

MX right now has no plans to enter any alliance -oneworld, etc- , also for Asia hopefully we will MEX-TIJ/MXL-PVG next year if everything goes as planned, also maybe KIX will be a good option, but really expensive.

Saludos



Life is what happens when you have other plans.....
User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2577 times:

In addition to JAL codeshare on MEXICANA's YVR-MEX, MEXICANA will codeshare on JAL's YVR-NRT.

JL012/MX3849 NRT-YVR-MEX
JL011/MX3848 MEX-YVR-NRT

JL018/MX3851 NRT-YVR


JAL's one-way YVR-MEX codeshare will expand to round-trip codeshare when 2007 Summer timetable went into effect.


User currently offlineXA744 From Mexico, joined Mar 2004, 734 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2569 times:

Quoting N405MX (Reply 18):
MX right now has no plans to enter any alliance -oneworld, etc- , also for Asia hopefully we will MEX-TIJ/MXL-PVG next year if everything goes as planned.

I think this should be the point of entry for Mexicana in the Far East. They would never need to regret having picked up China as their gateway to the huge and endless Asian market.

Best regards



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