Jimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (6 years 6 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 23013 times:
According to media reports from China, when the A380 made its world test flight stop in Beijing, the pilot took wrong command and land the plane from the wrong side of the runway.
The A380 landed at Beijing on 1006LT 23NOV (MSN002) from Guangzhou.
The plane landed on the East runway of Beijing Airport, facing Northward. however it made sudden U-turn and face South and enters taxiway.
At the time, planes were suppose to face southward for landing and take offs. Planes are not suppose to land on the runway and make U-turn immediately.
Because the A380 landed from wrong direction, few Air China planes were forced to stop taxiing before enters the east runway.
707lvr From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 537 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 22910 times:
Could someone clear this up a bit? Seems like it would be hard to do if one was in contact with the tower, and it's not as if the 380 was likely to sneak up on Beijing.
FlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7313 posts, RR: 61 Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 22761 times:
That's also what I think.
Seems hard to believe ...
The A380 visit at BJS was not really a "surprise" for anybody including the ATC.
And if a plane like this one, for such a "visit" was making all its approach on the "wrong side" of the Runway, somebody should have noticed and mentionned it before it landed !
Speedbird128 From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 1136 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 22327 times:
Well, the approach controller fully knew which runway he vectored (or issued a STAR) the A380 to. The tower controller would have been advised by the approach controller too. Everybody down to the ground controller should have been in the loop.
You may find that the landing direction was dictated by available taxiways and/or suitable parking spots.
We had a pre-defined route for the A380 when it was in AUH for those reasons.
I think it's a bit of media sensationalising the issue as some aircraft had to hold in order to give way to the 380.
SB From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 216 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 22287 times:
According to the translation the aircraft landed properly, but then did a 160° turn to exit the runway. No big deal - I believe it's just a case of pilot disorientation coupled with ATC miscommunication.
ZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 6937 posts, RR: 10 Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 20144 times:
I don't think he landed on the wrong 'side'. Tower would have had him on finals and he would have shown on radar should a misunderstanding have been the case. The fact that he landed would suggest to me that it wa a 'special case' along a predetermined track
Singel09 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 140 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 19355 times:
Quoting FlySSC
Do you mean that they landed on Rwy 36R instead of 16L ?
If one side is 36R, then the other is 18L. Could be a typo, just felt I needed to correct this. Always 180 degrees difference in direction on one runway.
474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9 Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 19114 times:
Quoting Jimyvr (Reply 4): landing/takeoff direction should be from north to south, which A380 landed from south, facing northward
Quoting SB (Reply 6): According to the translation the aircraft landed properly, but then did a 160° turn to exit the runway.
Quoting Solnabo (Reply 9): The 380 landed south instead of sout-southeast.
If you look at the web site; Beijing's has two runways 18L/36R 3800m long and 18R/36L 3200m long. The runways run north and south (not southeast). If the A380 landed from the south it used 18L or 18R. I don't see how either could be considered the "wrong side". Landings and takeoffs are normally accomplished "into the wind". Should the wind be blowing from the north landings and takeoffs would be on runway 18L or 18R. If the wind was comming out of the south, they would turn the airport around and use runways 36L and 36R. http://www.aircraftspotting.net/airports/ap_asia.html#pek
Blackbird1331 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1892 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 18345 times:
Blame this one on China. They buy so many Boeings that an Airbus does not know what to do when it gets there.
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Olympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 8 Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 17931 times:
I would like to give jimyvr (thread starter) an award for the most confusing post of the day. However, I suspect that English is not his native language, so it wouldn't be fair.
While I'm on this subject: I think TommyBP251b deserves an award for recklessness by making an AvB warlike statemant, even though he put a at the end. Finally, Osiris30 gets 2 thumbs down for taking him seriously and then making uncalled for remarks.
Just to be perfectly clear - none of the above should be taken seriously.
CCA From Hong Kong, joined Oct 2002, 708 posts, RR: 14 Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 16345 times:
Quoting 474218 (Reply 9): If you look at the web site; Beijing's has two runways 18L/36R 3800m long and 18R/36L 3200m long. The runways run north and south (not southeast). If the A380 landed from the south it used 18L or 18R. I don't see how either could be considered the "wrong side". Landings and takeoffs are normally accomplished "into the wind". Should the wind be blowing from the north landings and takeoffs would be on runway 18L or 18R. If the wind was comming out of the south, they would turn the airport around and use runways 36L and 36R.
I think you have got a little mixed up, if an aircraft is landing from the south it would be heading north and therefore landing in this case on 36L or R if the wind swung around to come from the the south say 170 degrees ATC would change the runways in use to 18L/R, so if the wind was from the north you would use 36 and from the south 18.
474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9 Reply 15, posted (6 years 6 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 16250 times:
Quoting BeechNut (Reply 13): The reciprocal of rwy 36R would be 18L, not 16L.
Quoting CCA (Reply 14):
I think you have got a little mixed up, if an aircraft is landing from the south it would be heading north and therefore landing in this case on 36L or R if the wind swung around to come from the the south say 170 degrees ATC would change the runways in use to 18L/R, so if the wind was from the north you would use 36 and from the south 18.
Hope this clears it up.
You both are right, the runways are numbered where your going (your heading) not where you have been. I knew that just didn't write that.
CoolSkyGuy From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 55 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (6 years 6 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 14104 times:
wow, glad that no planes head-on happened in the runway
Ptharris From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 282 posts, RR: 5 Reply 22, posted (6 years 6 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 12172 times:
Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 12): I would like to give jimyvr (thread starter) an award for the most confusing post of the day. However, I suspect that English is not his native language, so it wouldn't be fair.
While I'm on this subject: I think TommyBP251b deserves an award for recklessness by making an AvB warlike statemant, even though he put a at the end. Finally, Osiris30 gets 2 thumbs down for taking him seriously and then making uncalled for remarks.
SWEET!! Finally, we get awards for posting and honorable mention for posts that counteract the thread. Oh man, so many topics, so many possible awards...
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