SJUSXM From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 294 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 14129 times:
It is federal law to comply with all crew member instructions
whoever i have never been told to put down my shade except when we were leaving the aircraft and it was very hot outside. Im sure they would probably let you keep the shade open or at least a tad open.
Access-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1941 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 14093 times:
Most of the time I think they ask you to close the window shade as a courtesy to other passengers. That being said, I dont think its a regulation....
Matter factly I have experienced the opposite especially on Takeoff......When I was flying on ATA they made it a point to make sure ALL window shades were UP on takeoff.....Most likely because if there was an accident, you would need to see outside the aircraft (if intact) such as fire or dangerous plane parts.....
But I dont believe that its a crime not to put your window shade down....someone care to rebutt that???
BCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 14041 times:
Quoting Access-Air (Reply 2): But I dont believe that its a crime not to put your window shade down....someone care to rebutt that???
It is not a crime not to put your window shade down, but if a F/A instructs you to do so, and you refuse, it could be a crime under English law as you have refused to follow a crew member's instruction. The difficulty here is whether or not the instruction was given on safety grounds - a very difficult question to answer.
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Aeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 3066 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 13959 times:
Yes, you have to follow all FA instructions.
On my trans-Atlantic flights I've been asked to close my window shade because of either a movie or the "night-time" to give pax time to sleep. Because it's light outside it would be hard to do that with window shades open. Most pax comply. If needed you can turn your overhead light on.
Levg79 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1003 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 13953 times:
Just close it when they tell you to close it and open it back up in a few minutes. Worked for me on my last Transatlantic flight. I had a window sit and therefore wanted to be able to see out, and I did.
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Coronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1621 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 13674 times:
Quoting Filejw (Reply 3): Most of the time they want it closed its for the movie.
I'm a geography freak and I really enjoy seeing the earth from above. I can get a movie anytime at Target for 10 bucks.
That being said, in these times after 9/11, I guess if the FA told me to run up and down the aisle naked clucking like a chicken swing a telephone above my head, I guess I would do it just so I would not be set down at the next available airport.
Access-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1941 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 13448 times:
Quoting Aeroflot777 (Reply 6): Because it's light outside it would be hard to do that with window shades open. Most pax comply. If needed you can turn your overhead light on.
Well hnow is the overhead light supposed to help me see out my window????
Granted at night because its dark it wouldnt make a flip of a difference anyway.....I like to look out......It seems to me that it is counter productive to close the window shades especially on takeoff or landing during a critical time in which if something happens you probably dont want to have any field of vision blocked.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of "Company Policies" that airlines try to pass off as "Federal Regulations" and God help you if dont obey them to the letter. Why do they even bother with windows....Plug them up and just put pictures of different scenes where the windows were eh? Would that satisfy them??? Let people that want to look out side alone....sheesh. If I didnt want to look out the window I would have asked for an aisle seat.....
Greg3322 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 13368 times:
My experience on UA is usually this: "If you're not enjoying the view outside, please lower your window shade to better see the movie" or something close to that. Much classier than some other carriers that demand it.
I had an AA F/A do the "Sir - please lower your shade so others can watch the movie". I asked her if that was a request or an order? She looked puzzled and said, "I am requesting you close it so you can better see the movie". I politely declined and she went on her way.
Olympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 13299 times:
Quoting Access-Air (Reply 17): It seems to me that it is counter productive to close the window shades especially on takeoff or landing during a critical time in which if something happens you probably dont want to have any field of vision blocked.
What airline has a regulation like that? I've never heard of that being done - except on my infrequent arrivals at Area 51
Likewise, I have never been 'instructed' to lower my window shade. I have, OTOH, been 'requested' to lower it, as a courtesy to passengers watching the movie.
Thegooddoctor From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 523 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 13283 times:
Sometimes this can be an order... I have a pilot friend who was forced to deviate from his prescribed flight route, taking him into an area of restricted military airspace. The military ATC agreed to accept the overfly as long as passengers on the left side of the aircraft closed their window shades (this was enforced). He wouldn't tell me what they flew over, but he did mention that the restricted airspace was over a remote part of Nevada (that oughta really get all you Area 51'ers going )
Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 20): I once got a window seat but no window. It was just a wall. NOT FUN...
Yep - I had this experience several years ago on a US 757. This was also a PIT-PHX flight that was delayed for three hours on the ground due to heavy snow...so it was three very very boring hours... Since then I always use SeatGuru.com if I'm flying an airline that I'm not intimately familiar with their seating configuration.
Brilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4508 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 13234 times:
Quoting Access-Air (Reply 2): Matter factly I have experienced the opposite especially on Takeoff......When I was flying on ATA they made it a point to make sure ALL window shades were UP on takeoff.....Most likely because if there was an accident, you would need to see outside the aircraft (if intact) such as fire or dangerous plane parts.....
I have been told that it is in case of an emergancy that the people will be able to be oriented for evacuation of the aircraft.
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: Blah, on my flights DFW-NRT-DFW the flight attendants were absolute asses about the window shades. We took off from NRT at night back to DFW and I had
: If its a company policy, the flight attendant may demand you lower it. Federal air regulations do require you to obey all illuminated signs, posted p
: thank you!!!! I love looking out, it's so amazing. And taking pictures as well. But, I realize that some fellow passengers might be nervous and watch
: On a few flights from California to the UK, i was asked to put my blind down due the fact that there are only 2 or 3 hours of darkness in the summer,
: On a US flight from MYR on Thursday the young man in front of me fully reclined his seat and then attempted to pull down the window shade that then ca
: Though I think the airline would have a hard time winning that in court. It is merely a pax convenience item. On the other hand, having them open for
: Does the window shade "belong" to the passenger sitting next to the window?? If that´s so, does the aisle belong to the passenger sitting next to the
: Flight attendants usually "request" that the shades be lowered, not "instruct." Don't make a big deal out of nothing though. If it ever gets to the po
: MH and TG both request and go around to check your window shade is open for landing and takeoff. MH also completely switches of the cabin lights for
: I suppose proximity to the window gives one a certain amount of ownership, though if a seatmate requests closing I have no problem obliging. Re the a
: ...and landing. And so the flight attendants can see outside, wherever they are in the A/C. My view: Even though the environment inside an A/C cabin
: It is a requirement to have window shades open for takeoff and landing so that the crew have a clear view of outside, and to orientate everyone on boa
: I've only ever been asked once to actually close the shade and that was a BA night flight. On UA we were requested to put the shades down for the movi
: Whenever I've been asked to put my window shade down I do it most of the way but still leave a small part open so that i can seee just enough to satis
: This is something that always pisses me off. Why would I pay $500 to watch a movie that I could rent for $5? Like said above, UA usually requests you
40 We're Nuts
: True, but read your airlines' contract of carriage next time and you'll see that we don't differentiate between the two. Breaking a company policy wi
: I do not believe refusing to close your window shade so others can sleep or watch a movie is crime, even if instructed to do so by a cabin crew member
: I remember on my last flight we were asked to pull down the shades because we were flying over storm clouds at night and there was a lot of lightening