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China Airlines To Place Long-haul Order In 07H1  
User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4749 times:

News report from Taiwan's Commercial Times Newspaper on 25NOV06 filed a report that, China Airlines will place long-haul fleet order in the first half of 2007. The number of frames is 10.

The order will be based on 3 requirement: fuel efficiency, environmental friendly, and capacity. Boeing's 747-8/787-9 and Airbus 350XWB/380 are in consideration.

There will be no split order like its previous 2 major orders, since the number of frames to be ordered is 10.

High fuel price, eroding the airlines' profit forced the airline to postpone 10 747-8I order in Summer 2006. But it gives the airline more time to receive updates on A350XWB as well as the progress of possible scheduled link between Taiwan and China.

The carrier's long-haul fleet consist of 15 747-400 and 7 340-300. By 2010, most of these 744/340 will enter 10th year in service, a maximum age within the airline's standard. First aircraft to be ordered will arrive in 2010.

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User currently offlineTrex8 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 4493 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4730 times:
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I smell a 747-8 order here. For a 2010 timetable, neither the 787-10 or any A350XWB is available yet and there are 2 Pratt 744s from 1991, the rest date from 95 onwards and the A340s were delivered from 2001 so the early deliveries have to replace the 744s first.
They will be down to 6 A340s from the summer as the Boeing leased plane goes back to Boeing.
Any bets on a LH and CI order for 747-8Is by this coming summer?


User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4716 posts, RR: 44
Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4573 times:

Quoting Jimyvr (Thread starter):
By 2010, most of these 744/340 will enter 10th year in service, a maximum age within the airline's standard.

lol...they had the A300s and B 742s for way longer.

i think that some of their B 744s have already approached 10+ years of service.

USA political pressure will probably play a crucial part in this order for sure.

If its for 10 frames only, then I smell a B 748 order to fully replace the B 744 pax fleet which I fully expect to be converted into freighters once they are retired from commercial pax service.


User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3689 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4566 times:
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Quoting Behramjee (Reply 2):
If its for 10 frames only, then I smell a B 748 order to fully replace the B 744 pax fleet which I fully expect to be converted into freighters once they are retired from commercial pax service.

A very good point. Maybe Boeing will throw in the conversion kit for free as an incentive for the 747-800I order.



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 29672 posts, RR: 84
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4552 times:
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Well if they originally wanted (for whatever reasons) the 747-8I, then I imagine that plane remains the front-runner. And availability should favor the 787-9, especially if Boeing is able to secure a few 2010 delivery slots to coincide with the 747-8 deliveries.

But when they say "total order is 10" and the original 748 order intent was for 10, I am guessing that means less then 10 748s as some 787-9s will be added?


User currently offlineTrex8 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 4493 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4462 times:
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they have 15 pax 744s in service now, 11 need replacing (4 were delivered in last 2 years). 3 are over 10 years old already and the youngest of the pratt 744s are 8 years old.
there are 7 A343s in service but one is being returned to Boeing next year and 5 of the 6 owned by CI date from 2001 so there are at least 17 planes which need replacing at some point in the next few years.
if only 10 aircraft are to be ordered I suspect they are for the 744s leaving the A343s for a later date along with further orders for growth capacity. but will the A343 replacement be 787s or A350s??
if they are converting their pax 744s to BCF, how will they keep the avergae age of the fleet low? they will need to spin off the cargo division and not count the freighters!


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