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User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4453 posts, RR: 5
Posted (7 years 8 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6345 times:

I was hoping that someone could update me on the status of Virgin Atlantic's fleet. I know they operate 747-400s, A340-300s and A340-600s. Is it true that the leases on the 747s have been extended?

How many aircraft are currently in the fleet? Where are they based out of? What does the future look like besides the addtion of the A380? Also, what routes do the aircraft operate?


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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4801 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6318 times:

Not sure how accurate this info is, but here goes:

A340-300 5 a/c
A340-600 17 a/c
B747-400 13 a/c
A380-800 8 a/c on order

I know that VS flies to LAX twice a day I think (1x747, 1xA340) and codeshares with NZ who fly once daily LAX-LHR (744 or 772ER)



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User currently offlineBriguy1974 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 12 hours ago) and read 6071 times:

One daily SFO 747-400 rotation

User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6320 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 12 hours ago) and read 6045 times:

Most of the fleet are based at LHR, MAN and possibly LGW I'm not sure on the numbers though.
Besides the A380 order, some have said that 777s will be ordered but that has yet to be seen and also the A350XWB must look interesting to VS especially the -1000 variant which carries 375 passengers but I think it will have to be launched with solid dates before VS considers it. There's also the 747-8 which could be a good 747 replacement along with the A380!


User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3766 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 11 hours ago) and read 6029 times:

Boeing 747-400
LHR to JFK (7x), SFO (7x)
LGW to LAS (7x), HAV (2x), NAS (1x), ANU (3x), BGI (7x), GND (1x), UVF (3x), TAB (1x), MRU* (2x), MCO (14x), MBJ (2x)
MAN to MCO (8x), BGI (1x), UVF (1x)

Airbus A340-600
LHR to NRT (7x), HKG/SYD (7x), PVG (7x), DEL (7x), DXB (7x), CPT (7x), JFK (21x), EWR (7x), LAX (14x),

Airbus A340-300
LHR to BOM (7x), LOS (7x), EWR (7x), BOS (7x), IAD (7x)

*MRU starts Nov 07

There are also GLA-MCO services, I'm unsure what the freuqency is though (744)

Rob!  wave 


User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4119 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 11 hours ago) and read 5990 times:

Quoting CX747 (Thread starter):
How many aircraft are currently in the fleet?

5x A340-300:

G-VAIR
G-VELD
G-VFAR
G-VHOL
G-VSEA

17x A340-600 (+8 on order)

G-VATL
G-VBLU
G-VEIL
G-VFIT
G-VFIZ
G-VFOX
G-VGOA
G-VMEG
G-VOGE
G-VRED
G-VSHY
G-VSSH
G-VNAP
G-VGAS
G-VWIN
G-VWKD
G-VYOU

13x B747-400

G-VAST
G-VBIG
G-VFAB
G-VGAL
G-VHOT
G-VLIP
G-VROC
G-VROM
G-VROS
G-VROY
G-VTOP
G-VWOW
G-VXLG

Quoting CX747 (Thread starter):
Where are they based out of?

A340-300s: LHR
A340-600s: LHR
B747-400s: 5x LHR (VBIG, VFAB, VHOT, VROC, VWOW), 8x LGW/MAN (VAST, VGAL, VLIP, VROM, VROS, VROY, VTOP, VXLG)

Quoting B742 (Reply 4):

LHR-MIA is a B747-400, and LHR-JFK is currently 21x B747-400, and 7x A340-600.


User currently offlineWalter747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1440 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 10 hours ago) and read 5923 times:

Quoting B742 (Reply 4):
Airbus A340-300
LHR to BOM (7x), LOS (7x), EWR (7x), BOS (7x), IAD (7x)

wrong BOS is served with a A340-600.



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User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7057 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 10 hours ago) and read 5879 times:

Quoting B742 (Reply 4):
Boeing 747-400
LHR to JFK (7x), SFO (7x)
LGW to LAS (7x), HAV (2x), NAS (1x), ANU (3x), BGI (7x), GND (1x), UVF (3x), TAB (1x), MRU* (2x), MCO (14x), MBJ (2x)
MAN to MCO (8x), BGI (1x), UVF (1x)

Airbus A340-600
LHR to NRT (7x), HKG/SYD (7x), PVG (7x), DEL (7x), DXB (7x), CPT (7x), JFK (21x), EWR (7x), LAX (14x),

Airbus A340-300
LHR to BOM (7x), LOS (7x), EWR (7x), BOS (7x), IAD (7x)

I am scheduled to EWR with a 747 in April 2007.



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User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3766 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 5820 times:

Quoting Walter747 (Reply 6):
wrong BOS is served with a A340-600.

Right  Wink

15th November
VIR011 GVSEA A343 KBOS 1553 329 27L
14th November
VIR011 GVSEA A343 KBOS 1607 329 27R
13th November
VIR011 GVSEA A343 KBOS 1554 330 27L
11th November
VIR011 GVAIR A343 KBOS 1549 326 27L

Also amadeus is showing the A340-300 for BOS services until March 07  Smile

Quoting Columba (Reply 7):
I am scheduled to EWR with a 747 in April 2007.

The 744 returns to KEWR in March (1x 346, 1x 744)

I should have stated that the info is from winter timetable (December)

Rob!  wave 


User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4453 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 6 hours ago) and read 5624 times:

Wow, you guys have provided more than a plethora of information! Is there any reason why they operate the A340s to Asia and not the 747? Wouldn't the 747s larger capacity be needed?


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User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4119 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 5 hours ago) and read 5495 times:

Quoting CX747 (Reply 9):
Wow, you guys have provided more than a plethora of information! Is there any reason why they operate the A340s to Asia and not the 747? Wouldn't the 747s larger capacity be needed?

The B747-400's aren't used to Hong Kong/Tokyo/Shanghai because they have a lower MTOW than standard 744's, and so they are better suited to the shorter routes. Those three were some of the first routes served by A340-600 when it was introduced.

They're not used to India as the capacity isn't needed. The A340-300 seems to suit the BOM route year round, and the DEL route in the summer, upgraded to the A340-600 in the winter. Although the UK-India market is booming, the amount of flights there are always increasing, and obviously VS haven't found the need to upgrade those flights as of yet.


User currently offlineQantas744ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1286 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 5 hours ago) and read 5142 times:

Quoting Planesarecool (Reply 10):
-400's aren't used to Hong Kong/Tokyo/Shanghai because they have a lower MTOW than standard 744's

Correct only 833,000Lbs opposed to the 744's max. of 875,000Lbs..and why?

Well its cheaper, and upgrading if required involves no physical change to the plane but only paying money to boeing for an FMC and manuals update.

BTW VS's 744's are perfectly suited for all their flights over the atlantic. And they still feature stab tanks(a.k.a trim tanks) meaning the plane can use max. available fuel just like any other 744.

And in no way flights to SFO etc. are weight restricted and a derated thrust setting can always be used increasing engine life time.

Cheers Leo



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User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7360 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 4 hours ago) and read 4659 times:
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Quoting B742 (Reply 4):
There are also GLA-MCO services, I'm unsure what the freuqency is though (744)

That's 6 yearly starting next year.


User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4453 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 3 hours ago) and read 4497 times:

It would seem that VS set up their 747-400s specifically for Atlantic operations? Another interesting point is the fact that the 747-400 will outlast the "newer" A340-300 series aircraft. Does anyone know if the 747s have had their leases renewed in lieu of the A380 delivery issues?

Also, it would seem that VS is firmly in the A340-600 camp and will not be operating the 777-300ER any time soon.



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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8273 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 3926 times:
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744 leases are being extended due to delay and Virgin's own decision to delay a few years the A380 intro. Virgin's option to replace the 744's is go all A340 or get new 777 or 747's. Most customers wouldn't know the difference from new or old 744's so why change them.

User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4453 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 3830 times:

Has VS talked to Boeing about the 747-8I? Also, what type of changes would occur if VS switched to an all A340-600 fleet?

This airline sure has come a long way since the days of used 747-200s!



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21472 posts, RR: 60
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months ago) and read 3653 times:

Quoting CX747 (Reply 15):
Also, what type of changes would occur if VS switched to an all A340-600 fleet?

If they decide to dump the 744 and A380, you could see mostly A346. But there are ongoing whispers of the A333 as well. A333 does not have great range, but covers a great deal of their routes. But it's not a direct replacement for the 343, so going all A346 limits flexibility of the fleet, as it's a "one size fits all" solution for longhaul flying.

Also, IIRC, VS has 6 A388 on order, not 8 of them. And deferred to 2014, it's not likely they will be flying the A380 as we know it. Some say the deferral is a cancelation, but if Airbus does go forward with the A388LR, you might see VS take that instead...



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