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User currently offlineDTW757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1560 posts, RR: 4
Posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 20294 times:

I was in Chicago this past weekend and I decided to check out what became of Meigs Field. For people who are wondering about it I posted some photos here. I have to tell you that for me it made me very sad going there.

My last visit to Meigs Airport was in March 2002 as the destination for my long cross country instrument flight for my instrument rating. I was very lucky to have flown in there and I can't believe that I will never have the opportunity again. It was a great flight and I wish I had taken more pictures there at the time.

I remember on landing being over the water all the way to the threshold, it was awesome. I also remember in the terminal there was a large picture hanging on the wall of a United 727-100 landing at Meigs. It is the 727 which is now located in the Museum Of Science And Industry.

Today, there is very little mention on the signs for the new park or in the terminal about the airport. The entire field is grass with a few paved trails that circle the former airport. There was a sign about the history of the island and it mentioned that an airport was there that closed in 2003. It is almost like they want to wipe it from the history books, what a shame.

Here is the terminal as it was seen from the tarmac
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View entering the terminal from the former airside
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View from in the terminal looking out toward the field
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View of the control tower
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User currently offlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3041 posts, RR: 28
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 20284 times:

Sad to see Meigs Field in that state.  Sad It was nice to see those aircraft come into land while one was sitting outside the Adler Planetarium.

I remember taking a school trip to Meigs when I was in fifth grade. It was one of the best trips ever.  biggrin  But that was long time ago.  wink  The building looks still the same as I remember.

Thanks for the photos.

Wonder if Meigs would have had the same fate if it had belonged to the state or if it was in private hands.


User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 20162 times:

So why did Mayor Daley close Meigs?

Oh yeah....

Because he could.

Sure it was a blatant, chickenshit [ab]use of power, where the stated reason for the demolition versus the REAL reason for it couldn't be further apart. I agree and sympathize with your negative views. But let's look at reality.

Evidently no one could or really cared enough [about Meigs] to stop him.

As far as he goes, the man is God and invincible.

And the voters of that city who keep reelecting him apparently agree.

I know that Meigs is a very caustic issue for many of you: he won and you lost and there isn't sh*t you can do about it.

But sometimes that's just how it goes.

Oh well.


User currently offlineM404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2226 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 20150 times:
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Does anyone know just who paid the fines that were levied on this? Or if they were?


Less sarcasm and more thought equal better understanding
User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3853 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 20100 times:

"As far as he goes, the man is God and invincible."

Just call him Hizzoner

"And the voters of that city who keep reelecting him apparently agree."

Chicago: The City That Works.


Northerly Island
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Ain't I a stinker?
User currently offlineGeotrash From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 20052 times:

Quoting Matt D (Reply 2):
I know that Meigs is a very caustic issue for many of you: he won and you lost and there isn't sh*t you can do about it.

But sometimes that's just how it goes.

Oh well.

Caustic is not the same as painful. Painful was watching the destruction of the airfield on the news. Caustic is how I would describe your comments.

We are a nation of laws, not men. When men of leadership ignore those laws for their own gain, they have no right to expect to be protected by those laws, nor a moral basis for expecting others to obey them. What happens when men of power ignore the laws they've sworn to uphold? Gangsters rise, and personal rights, and individual freedoms are the cost. Maybe that doesn't bother you, but it certainly does me. Meigs was about much more than the loss of a cherished airport.

Dave


User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 20035 times:

What's so awesome about this Meigs place again?


The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21515 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 20026 times:

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 6):
What's so awesome about this Meigs place again?

There must be something to it. The original version of Flight Simulator (the video game) defaulted to the airstrip. Of all the places in the world, they chose Meigs...



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineMilesrich From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1995 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 19868 times:

Daly will not be the mayor forever. Who knows, the next mayor might reopen the field.

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29795 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 19805 times:

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 4):
Northerly Island

Hell, you know they used to make airports out of flat grass like that....



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User currently offlineSonOfACaptain From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1747 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 19789 times:

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 4):

The park doesn't even look good. Personally, it's a sore eye to the downtown.

-SOAC



Non Illegitimi Carborundum
User currently offlineUnited767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 356 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 19786 times:

When I used to live in the Chicago area, I used to love going to meigs and sitting in the parking lot of the planetarium and watching planes come and go for hours. It makes me very sad when I look at those pictures.


I wish UA flew mainline to MYR, that way you wouldn't be stuck in a smelly Saturn for 12 hours.
User currently offlineNonfirm From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 434 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 19704 times:

Sad to see the airport in this condition.  airplane 

User currently offlineDTW757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1560 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 19562 times:

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 6):
What's so awesome about this Meigs place again?

Many private pilots as well as corporate aircraft used Meigs for its convenient location adjacent to downtown Chicago.

Quoting Matt D (Reply 2):
Evidently no one could or really cared enough [about Meigs] to stop him.

That isn't the case, especially when the airport was seized and the runway was destroyed in the middle of the night with no notice to the aviation community. Had there been prior notice that the closing was imminant, there would have been an uproar.



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User currently offlineBwohlgemuth From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 19105 times:

I have a picture over my desk of Meigs with Soldier Field and the Chicago skyline in the background.

During the Bears/Miami game this year, it was the first time I saw "Northerly Island" after the destruction Meigs. I flew into Meigs a few times with my dad's flying service (which was based out of Howell Airport on the southside in the 1970's...now it's a friggin Best Buy).

Daley pissed me off so much with this bonehead decision....


User currently offlineBobski From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 83 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 18145 times:

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 6):
What's so awesome about this Meigs place again?

Meigs was everyone's first introduction to Flight Simulator, from the very original on the Amstrad (I have it Big grin) all the way to 2000. I learnt to 'fly' (in FS) from Meigs, and I know and remember it because of that. I'm not devastated or in tears to see it closed, in fact I never knew it had closed (it would explain why the game now defaults to Seattle Tacoma), but I had hoped to one day fly in/out of there to see how close the FS version was to the real thing.



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User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 17677 times:

Daley should be ousted for that little stunt, and forced to pay the millions of dollars to reopen the field. Destroying an airport that recieves FAA money should be a felony. AOPA is foaming at the mouth to have this guy jailed or executed, and I agree with them.

The land looks like a landfill now, a complete eyesore to the city. Unfortunately more and more airports dissapear in this country.

Jacksonville also has a crooked mayor who killed the prospects for a Navy base, so I know how it is to have a too-powerful idiot as a mayor.

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineAndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 40
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 17588 times:

I took this shot of Meigs last December after the big snowstorm, while on a CRJ enroute to FWA.

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 682 File size: 602kb


Drew



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User currently offlineDTW757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1560 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 17434 times:

Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 16):
The land looks like a landfill now, a complete eyesore to the city.

It was very depressing walking around there and it wasn't clean. The walkway was so full of goose crap that you had to watch where you stepped if you didn't want it on your shoes.

I understand the need to preserve and create parks for all of the public to enjoy, but this move was not right. Mayor Daley knew there would be opposition to the closing plan so he moved in the middle of the night much like a dictator does.

There is a great article on Meigs at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meigs_Field



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User currently offlineAccess-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1939 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 17272 times:

Its good to see that at least the Bonehead Mayor didnt allow the terminal building to be torn down as well....
I too wish that they would re work and re build the airport back to its former condition and maybe add a few hundred feet on the south end of the runway...It was such a neat and historical airport....
Its too bad that it wasnt able to be saved on a historical basis thereby keeping it active...
I just wonder how many drug dealers and crack wh**es use the park now that the planes dont fly??? I wonder if Mayor and Mrs. Daley enjoy seeing Buckwheat Bertha out trolling around for a date???

Access-Air



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User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 17272 times:

Daley should be ousted for that little stunt, and forced to pay the millions of dollars to reopen the field.

He should but won't and should but won't.

Mayor Daley knew there would be opposition to the closing plan so he moved in the middle of the night much like a dictator does.

That may be. But no one ever accused him of being an idiot. He knew exactly what he was doing. And because of who he is and his connections, he did and will continue to get away with it unscathed, consequence free.


User currently offlineJBClark From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 17192 times:

Quoting Milesrich (Reply 8):
Daly will not be the mayor forever. Who knows, the next mayor might reopen the field.

True, Mayor Daley won't be there forever, but what is left to reopen? The strip is gone. There's just about no way it'll ever be rebuilt.


User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1894 posts, RR: 27
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 16494 times:

What a shame that Meigs was closed,

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to go to Chicago; however, I've flown to that airport in my FS a million times (as it was the default airport in the 2000 version) and I sure love it.

Those are places that musn't be touched as they are icons of aviation.

Cheers



Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
User currently offlineTiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 15397 times:

Quoting DTW757 (Thread starter):
large picture hanging on the wall of a United 727-100 landing at Meigs.

- How did they get a 727 down and stopped on a 3700 foot runway? And I didn't think the strip was thick enough for that weight?

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 6):
What's so awesome about this Meigs place again?

- For people like me with strong ties to Chicago, it has a very special meaning. I have a large photo of the airport taken from the air framed in my living room.

Quoting Milesrich (Reply 8):
Daly will not be the mayor forever.

- Amen to that, but maybe we shouldn't mix politics with aviation, they usually don't go together too well.

Quoting DTW757 (Reply 13):
That isn't the case, especially when the airport was seized and the runway was destroyed in the middle of the night with no notice to the aviation community. Had there been prior notice that the closing was imminant, there would have been an uproar

- Didn't Daley start the demolition of the runway before all the planes were removed from the field? I think I remember seeing photographs of planes sitting on the taxiways with heavy machinery tearing up the runway.

Quoting Access-Air (Reply 19):
Its good to see that at least the Bonehead Mayor didnt allow the terminal building to be torn down as well....

- Don't give the "Bonehead" any ideas

David



Flying is the second greatest thrill known to mankind, landing is the first!
User currently offlineFell90 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 15273 times:

Sorry for my ignorance, but what happened to meigs field?

25 KingAir200 : Come in slow, land right at the end, hit the brakes, and whip 'er into reverse before you went off the other end. I think there is a video of it at t
26 KingAir200 : The Chicago Mayor, somebody Daley, had the runway destroyed one night because of "terrorism" concerns. IIRC, that was the reason the Mayor's office o
27 Ksonderling : It was also well-known as the default takeoff field in many early versions of the popular Microsoft Flight Simulator software program Ah yes, my favor
28 Fell90 : Yes thats how ive heard of it! looked a great place to fly into on the game, can only imagine what is was like in real life..
29 Post contains images Malmoaviation : A destroyed land-area I would call (former) Meigs in these days. Let's hope that they build something there some day... like an airfield.
30 Post contains links and images DTW757 : The photo I saw on the wall was the 727 touching down at the threshold if I remember it correctly. They landed there, disassembled the airplane and m
31 Tbnist03 : Is Meigs open to the public? Are you allowed to just walk around on what used to be the runways, and stroll in the terminal? IIRC, The video is of how
32 DTW757 : Yes it is now open to the public. That was the idea of behind closing the airport, to create a park for all the public to enjoy. For me, there was ve
33 Post contains images Bond007 : There is really no question what he did was wrong (and he knew it), and of course he knew he'd have opposition ....that's exactly why a Mayor of one t
34 Matt D : There is really no question what he did was wrong (and he knew it), and of course he knew he'd have opposition ....that's exactly why a Mayor of one t
35 Post contains images Bond007 : What is your point? Actually there is quite a lot the general public and myself can do about it. The problem is that most of Chicago chooses to think
36 Redngold : Actually there was talk of casinos and hotels. So much for that happening... Anyone for an (in)convenient emergency landing on "the grass strip"?
37 Post contains images Confuscius : "The Chicago Mayor...had the runway destroyed one night because of "terrorism" concerns. IIRC, that was the reason the Mayor's office originally gave
38 Post contains images Bond007 : Oh, it's about much more than a little airport. His whole office is full of corruption, with some serving sentences I believe. Sure it's only Chicago
39 Post contains images Confuscius : "His day will come" Yeah, when he dies in office just like his old man. Good reading...btw.
40 Post contains links and images KATL757 : My pic of Meigs taken from the Sears Tower when I was there in June for my sons graduation from law school.
41 Post contains images Tom in NO : Landed my FS 737 there with no problems.....full flaps, carrier-type touchdown, immediate full reverse thrust, and crammed brakes.....the fun part wa
42 CHI787ORD : Looks like I'm going to be the Daley defender... I dont agree with what happened at Meigs Field. It was an abuse of power, and in an average city the
43 Nkops : I know, one just disappeared by me after being open for about 80 years or so. Didn't Mayor Daley use the 9/11 excuse to try to get Meigs closed, sayi
44 Post contains images DL787932ER : I'm sorry, but I just can't let this go: Words fail me. I'll just say The one part of your post I can agree with, if only because the rest of it indic
45 Post contains links and images Longhornmaniac : Here is my shot of it, taken about 3 weeks ago, for any interested: Cheers, Cameron
46 Matt D : what are your values, and do you really hold them so lightly that you would happily sell them for a new park and another downtown corporate HQ? I agre
47 Bond007 : Perfect question ...and we know the answer! ...and of course, no other Mayor would have changed Chicago like Daley did .. ever think another Mayor mi
48 Post contains images Confuscius : "Looks like I'm going to be the Daley defender..." Nothing wrong with that. "...Daley took over in 1989, Chicago was rapidly decaying into another urb
49 CHI787ORD : I do value democracy and justice. Do not feel that because I characterize Daley as a good mayor I do not believe in a democratic society and people b
50 Post contains images CHI787ORD : ehhh.... Blagojevich is a Cubs fan, so it evens out.
51 Bond007 : ...and all the while you have that attitude, nothing will change - herein lies the problem. If you really think it's just Meigs, you (and the rest of
52 ShyFlyer : That's exactly what Daley wants to happen, for everyone to forget. There will never be another airport on that site. What's more, he didn't even noti
53 CHI787ORD : No believe me, I and the rest of Chicago knows City Hall is full of corruption. I was referring to everyone on this board who have pre-judged my mayo
54 SW733 : No he shouldn't. Despite what most of you think, the world doesn't revolve around airplanes and airports. Boo hoo, it's gone. Sure, it was illegal, b
55 CHI787ORD : THANK YOU!!! I have a feeling that most of the Daley haters on here arent even from Chicago.
56 Post contains links CactusHP : "Mayor Daley in 1995 initially brought up the proposal to build a park. In 2001 a compromise was met between Chicago, Illinois, and others to keep the
57 CHI787ORD : Thats a completely unfair comparison, as Meigs was a GA airport, not a major commerical airport like LGA. As I said before, get over it.
58 Post contains images DL787932ER : In other words, you believe in a democratic society and people being brought to justice...you just have no interest in actually seeing such things ha
59 Post contains images SW733 : Calling him a dictator...gee, I wonder if that source you cite has a certain viewpoint they're trying to show...hmmm...maybe...can't quite tell. Yes,
60 Post contains images CHI787ORD : No, I believe in what I stated. I just dont feel Daley's "crimes" warrant any jail time or impeachment. No I havent. I believe in gun control, just a
61 Post contains images CactusHP : I'm quite aware of this actually...so by what you say we cannot compare 2 different airports. So for comparisons sake, say my local KFFZ Falcon Field
62 DL787932ER : If Richard Daley broke into your house, shot your dog, and beat up your mother, would you still vote for him? I'm just wondering if there are any fel
63 Post contains images SW733 : Well come on he's a politician, of course he isn't a normal human being . Normal human beings aren't as corrupt as Daley either. And I know you weren
64 Confuscius : "If you break them, you pay the price - unless you're a thoroughly connected and corrupt Democrat city boss." When it comes to corruption, Daley is NO
65 CHI787ORD : I am very content with my local government; that's probably because my local government gets things done, and above all has transformed my city from
66 Post contains images SW733 : He'd have to grow about 8 more feet of hair, upwards, to be like Betty I once spotted her hair from Maywood.
67 CHI787ORD : Great list, but you forget good old former Republican Governor George Ryan, who will have to report to prison this January. O Illinois, how you keep
68 TVNWZ : What a bunch of whiners. If Daley is so corrupt and he broke so many bigtime laws and federal regulations, why has not the Republican federal governme
69 Post contains images 2H4 : It was wonderful. Nothing like descending below the level of the surrounding buildings on your approach... I've landed a level D full-motion 737 sim
70 CactusHP : Unfortunately even if all these charges would be up against him, it would not matter anyhow as he has many connections and would weasel out of the ch
71 TVNWZ : History proves us wrong.
72 CHI787ORD : Im sure they would love to get him, or atleast try, but the IL GOP imploded on itself in 2004 and still cant pick up the pieces. Talk about embarrass
73 Post contains links and images Confuscius : "He'd have to grow about 8 more feet of hair, upwards, to be like Betty I once spotted her hair from Maywood. She gives Tammy Faye Bakker a run for he
74 Post contains images 2H4 : I don't think any of us are suggesting our opinion will make any difference, but that doesn't mean an open discussion and exchange of ideas is out of
75 Post contains images Bond007 : What the heck has where they live got to do with it....in fact I think I know ...we all agree, even you, that corruption is ripe in his office...the
76 Geotrash : That's the thing. You're either crooked or you're not. There really isn't any middle ground. Imagine saying: Hey, I make good money and employ severa
77 Post contains links and images Confuscius : Here's more info on Northerly Island: Northerly Island is a 91- acre peninsula that juts into Lake Michigan at the heart of the Museum Campus. It is l
78 AirEMS : Wasn't the shut down done in like the middle of the night? -Carl
79 2H4 : Yep. This fact underscores the fact that Daley knowingly broke the law, and knew damn well proper procedure and the interests of the majority would h
80 Post contains images Tiger119 : - - I'm surprised no one reacted to that comment - - Maybe this should be moved to "Non-Av?" I mean I love talking about Chicago, heck I love Chicago
81 Post contains links DL787932ER : I'm done with the Daley bootlickers on this thread, but this comment bears repeating: Parks and Planes plan Friends of Meigs developed a plan giving N
82 AirframeAS : How much did the F.A.A. fine Daley for closing Meigs?? I heard it was a pretty hefty amount for not notifying the F.A.A. that he was going to close th
83 DTW757 : DL787932ER, The Parks and Planes plan looks great, thanks for sharing. It seems far better than what they have done with it. Not hard to believe that
84 TVNWZ : Not really. It saved the city millions and axed a bunch of patronage jobs. I know a lot of people who have started going to Chicago for no reason hav
85 CactusHP : After 3 years of refuting he closed it illegally, Daley finally agreed to pay the $32,000 the FAA fined him for closing the airport down without lett
86 2H4 : Sources and data, please. 2H4
87 Geotrash : You are misinformed. The Total Economic Impact (TEI) of Meigs field to Chicago was a plus $57 million annually, plus 1,500 jobs directly attributed t
88 CactusHP : Since Meigs was primarily a GA airport, how did the closure of Meigs directly impact increased delays and MDW and ORD? Something tells me that its so
89 Geotrash : A fair question. Since Meigs was a GA airport as you note, corporate and other private aircraft which would have used Meigs as their landing spot, ar
90 Post contains images 2H4 : Exactly...GA aircraft need spacing and sequencing like everyone else. 2H4
91 Wingnut767 : How many of these flights were G/A leisure flights ? Alot. People doing cross country or going to the city for lunch. Most of the business traffic wa
92 2H4 : Please provide a source and data. 2H4
93 Post contains links Confuscius : "Most of the business traffic was absorbed by Palwaukee, Dupage and Waukegan." And Boeing's corporate jets are based in Gary, Indiana (GYY). Boeing to
94 Bond007 : GUYS, Pleeeeeze, this is irrelevant! It doesn't matter a jot whether it had 10,000 ops a day, or 6, or made $100 Million/yr or a loss. It would have
95 Post contains links and images Fumanchewd : You don't really know Chicago history do you? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daley_family They're like the Kennedy's of Chicago.....except he's fat, an
96 Post contains images Geotrash : I covered this in my post, but perhaps you missed it. No problem. According to the City of Chicago's own 1992 study, 88% of the flights landing at Me
97 2H4 : It's funny, really....the Daley supporters whine that non-residents can't possibly be informed on the Meigs issue, yet, more often than not, they the
98 Post contains images Geotrash : Oh, and one more thing. Enjoy that lakefront park, Wingnut. The good people of Chicago will pay for it to the tune of $1,140,000,000 over the next 20
99 SW733 : I'm saying this as someone who considers themself a Chicagoan of sorts because I have spent so much time there, all my family is from there, etc.: 1)
100 2H4 : My comment was directed toward those who claim/suggest that, in order to be informed and capable of understanding the Meigs situation, one must be a
101 Geotrash : I'm sorry you feel that way. I don't think you want to live in a world of vigilante justice- which is one of the few options left when people in powe
102 Post contains images CHI787ORD : I never once said or implied that in order to be informed on the "Meigs issue" one should be a Chicago resident. I said and implied that one really n
103 Post contains images Confuscius : "Chicago is better with Mayor Daley in office in my opinion." Better than Michael Bilandic and Eugene Sawyer? ...or Bernard Epton and Fast Eddie Vrdol
104 Post contains images CHI787ORD : You reminded of another reason why I like Da Mare... He has kept Chicago racially harmonized, more so than during any other period in it's history. O
105 Confuscius : "O yeah, great job dealing with those blizzards Bilandic." Man, did Bilandic ever screw up big time and Jane Byrne took advantage of the situation. I
106 Post contains images Fumanchewd : You obviously are oblivious to the impact that an airport with that location would have on a city. You are correct in stating that the city would go
107 LASOctoberB6 : that wikipedia article states that Mr. Daley supports LGBT rights sponsors a lot of their stuff. i really can't say i hate him because, he supports my
108 DTW757 : If the potential terrorist threat was the real reason for closing Meigs, I have to ask myself these questions. What would happen to the mayor of lets
109 Post contains images SW733 : Oh please, practically comparing Chicago to Port-au-Prince? Now I've seen it all on this thread. Have you even ever been to Haiti? Trust me, nothing
110 Geotrash : I have a friend who owns a soap factory there...and a Cessna 172, but one need not be there to understand the politics. It is pure corruption in acti
111 Bond007 : ...and when you have that attitude, NOTHING will ever change. The public believe corruption is OK, and the politicians continue to do it because they
112 Post contains links and images Confuscius : "Great list, but you forget good old former Republican Governor George Ryan, who will have to report to prison this January." 'Ol George won't have to
113 SW733 : Yes, I am honest and believe that integrity is important in life and work. I am not saying it isn't, and I am not saying it shouldn't be. I simply be
114 Bond007 : I'm afraid you are being quite hypocritical. If you think what Daley is doing is OK, and agree he is corrupt, how can you say you believe integrity i
115 Mir : Calling New York a piece of crap is a sign of a mental illness. And yet the status quo is hardly a prime example of honesty and integrity. -Mir
116 Post contains images SW733 : I believe in integrity in my own life. I can't control anyone elses. I can't make Daley un-corrupt just like I didn't make him corrupt. I wouldn't bl
117 Wingnut767 : Provide the data
118 Wingnut767 : Sorry , My post cames just from my experience in Chicago. I have flown on flight training into Meigs from Palwaukee. I lived next to Waukegan Airport
119 Post contains links Wingnut767 : http://www.waukeganport.com/wkgn_airport/ http://www.indianaeconomicdigest.net...31&subsectionID=66&articleID=29377 And it seems that the other local
120 Bond007 : Sorry, one of these statements has to give. You, yourself, openly support somebody who you, yourself, openly admit is corrupt and dishonest. If you d
121 Goaliemn : I've landed my 172 at MDW acouple of times. It backs things up a bit, and I do have to pay a bit for parking/landing, but the convenience is nice. Le
122 2H4 : Well, that's certainly some valuable, first-hand experience. While I can appreciate that, it's still one person's perception, so I'd still like to se
123 Geotrash : Exactly- particularly from a financial standpoint. An airport is an enabler for business and commerce, the same as road and railroad infrastructure,
124 DTW757 : I have to agree. It's not like they wanted to destroy a field of grass to build the airport, the airport was already there. At this point if you have
125 Mir : New York is superior to Chicago in my opinion, in almost every category. I recognize that you may rank Chicago ahead, and that's fine, but calling Ne
126 Post contains links Wingnut767 : This is from 2002. Your estimated 1 Billion is a drop in the bucket. And if most of these flights are landing at MDW or ORD are they not still genera
127 Post contains images SW733 : No they don't. It's personal opinion. In personal opinion, I have the right to think whatever I want. I specifically said I believe in different thin
128 Geotrash : OK. How does $345 for each of the 2.9 million people in Chicago sound? Might be a drop in the bucket for you but I'll bet it wouldn't be for a grandm
129 Geotrash : One definition of reason is the willingness to accept that what one thinks think may not be correct. If you have an opinion that is inconsistent with
130 Post contains images Wingnut767 : I see you have been reading the DNC talking points.
131 Blackbird1331 : Meigs was a classic GA airport. Low, slow, flying aircraft did not intefere with the majors. Calling the mayor a bonehead is being gracious. Maybe, so
132 Post contains links and images Confuscius : Reality check. Meigs is closed and will remain closed. Mayor Daley will win the next mayoral election, if he runs again, just as the sun will rise tom
133 2H4 : Popular opinion of a political candidate isn't necessarily indicative of his or her competence or integrity in office.... 2H4
134 Arffguy : I can't believe I am reading this on an aviation forum. Un-freaking believable. You guys need to find somewhere else to hang out.
135 Post contains images DTW757 : And now....it's JUST a grass field....well perhaps just a snow field today
136 Mikefad : I believe they made a practice run before they landed just to get it right
137 Post contains links and images Confuscius : Mayor Daley is running for mayor again. Bad news for A.netters, but you'll have another four years to bash him. Daley says he has 'more to give' By Da
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