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Air Asia Plans To Fly Long Haul!  
User currently offlineCoolSkyGuy From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 55 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 11 months 14 hours ago) and read 7188 times:

AK is following HK based Oasis to start long haul no-frills flights...

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KUALA LUMPUR, Oct 7 (Reuters) - The founders of Malaysia-based low-cost carrier AirAsia plan to set up a new budget airline that will operate long-haul flights, a business weekly reported.
The Edge, citing unnamed sources, said the new airline, which would be privately owned, might begin service as early as next year.
AirAsia directors Tony Fernandes and Kamarudin Meranun and their associates are believed to be working on the business plan, which would be presented to the government, the weekly said.
Fernandes and Kamarudin could not be immediately reached for comment.
AirAsia currently flies to destinations within the region.
One of the routes under consideration is Kuala Lumpur to London, the Edge said.
National carrier Malaysia Airlines flies 18 times a week to London from Kuala Lumpur, and it is one of the few profitable routes on its international network.

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User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 13 hours ago) and read 7097 times:

Mr. Leahy did say last week that he is in talks with a lowcost carrier to sell A330s, when asked if lowcost carriers showed interest for the A380. AK might well be that airline. Imagine how good AK's paintsheme would look on an A330...


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User currently offlineCoolSkyGuy From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 55 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 13 hours ago) and read 7038 times:

Quoting Manni (Reply 1):
Mr. Leahy did say last week that he is in talks with a lowcost carrier to sell A330s, when asked if lowcost carriers showed interest for the A380. AK might well be that airline. Imagine how good AK's paintsheme would look on an A330...

Whoa... A380 for a low cost carrier, hope they don't turn out to be refugees-boat alike that cramps as many passengers as they can in that aircraft!  Smile Kidding...

AK indeed is very ambitious in expanding their fleet size.


User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 12 hours ago) and read 7013 times:

Quoting CoolSkyGuy (Reply 2):
Whoa... A380 for a low cost carrier,

That's what one of the reporters suggested. Mr. Leahy replied (joking) that he'll put the A380 in the brochure for the lowcost airlines. He then added that he is currently in talks (IIRC he said I'll be meeting the customer this afternoon) with a lowcost carrier for A330s.



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User currently offlineCoolSkyGuy From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 55 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 12 hours ago) and read 6986 times:

Quoting Manni (Reply 3):
He then added that he is currently in talks (IIRC he said I'll be meeting the customer this afternoon) with a lowcost carrier for A330s.

Wonder if Boeing is serious about venturing into the low cost segment since they lost the AK's 100 aircraft bidding war to Airbus. Never heard that they are as agressive as Airbus in this area.


User currently offlineFoxy From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 179 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 12 hours ago) and read 6978 times:

As long as they don't paint anymore planes in that hideous Man Utd scheme it's all good

User currently offlineCoolSkyGuy From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 55 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 12 hours ago) and read 6953 times:

Quoting Foxy (Reply 5):
As long as they don't paint anymore planes in that hideous Man Utd scheme it's all good

Well, what do you expect from a low cost airlines? Actually I don't really think that paint scheme is hideous.  

[Edited 2006-11-28 09:46:16]

User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4756 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 12 hours ago) and read 6933 times:

Quoting CoolSkyGuy (Reply 2):

AK indeed is very ambitious in expanding their fleet size.

As ambitious as AK is, no one knew they would succeed to this extent. All they nay-sayers have since been silenced as AK time and time again reap profits from routes within the country itself that the flag carrier has problems with.

On top of that, they have been tremendously successful in the region too. As if that is not enough, they have a Thai and Indonesian affiliate to boot.

Now the next logical step would be to expand and spread their wings further afield. The viability of a long-haul LCC remains to be seen with the fore-runner Oasis Hongkong. But if AK's business decisions are anything to go by, anything they touch now seems to turn to gold.

In fact, I am so curious about AK that I have booked myself a flight on their Thai subsidiary Thai Air Asia (FD) from SIN-BKK. I want to see what the fuss is all about (or no fuss at all).

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Ryan



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User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 11 hours ago) and read 6846 times:

Quoting CoolSkyGuy (Reply 4):
Never heard that they are as agressive as Airbus in this area.

Dont doubt that they are as agressive, FR's mouth has put it very nicely (well quiet the opposite really) when they placed their 738 order a couple years back.

IMO it comes down to who's able to deliver the desired amount of frames at the right time, as far as the competition between the A32S and 73S is concerned.



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User currently offlineW3ndytj4n From Indonesia, joined Feb 2006, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 11 hours ago) and read 6840 times:

This is a bad news for MH, since their domestic routes was attacked by AK, now AK starts to play on long haul route.

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User currently offlineCoolSkyGuy From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 55 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 9 hours ago) and read 6707 times:

Quoting Manni (Reply 3):
That's what one of the reporters suggested. Mr. Leahy replied (joking) that he'll put the A380 in the brochure for the lowcost airlines.

Earlier, there was an executive from Airbus visited India targeting its yet to be fully explored domestic market and trying to sell the idea of using A380 as low cost carriers, talks with Air Deccan and Kingfishers were held but no deal sealed.

India is a huge market, A380 might be able to used in the domestic sector, to replace its infamous overly packed old trains...


User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1442 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 9 hours ago) and read 6679 times:

When I was flying BKK-HKG the other week, ALL AK flights were delayed by at least 1 hour up to 3-4 hours!!!


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User currently offlineCoolSkyGuy From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 55 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 8 hours ago) and read 6613 times:

Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 11):
When I was flying BKK-HKG the other week, ALL AK flights were delayed by at least 1 hour up to 3-4 hours!!!

Think you actually mean BKK to Macau, AK does not fly to HK.


User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2013 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 7 hours ago) and read 6463 times:

I flew several AK and FD flights earlier this year, and all were fine. Very popular with the locals.
A 12 hours LCC flight to London would need a bit more legroom mind you, and a bit of IFE wouldn't go amiss either! The A333 wouldn't reach Europe, does the A332 have the legs to get that far?



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User currently offlineDrgmobile From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 658 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 6 hours ago) and read 6355 times:

Folks, re-read the article. AirAsia isn't attributed to be doing anything...its founders are. The article says it would be a new carrier.

User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 34
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 6 hours ago) and read 6332 times:

Quoting CoolSkyGuy (Reply 12):
Think you actually mean BKK to Macau, AK does not fly to HK.

I think TurkishWings flew EK and just noticed the FD delays based on his trip report..

I'd say the delays are a FD (Thai Air Asia) problem completely, I've never been seriously delayed on AK. AK only has a couple of KUL flights at BKK, so these delays must have been FD delays as expected.

The FD operation is a complete joke, usually it looks like their delays are caused by one 737 going mechanical.

[Edited 2006-11-28 15:51:08]


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User currently offlineCoolSkyGuy From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 55 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6004 times:

Quoting Drgmobile (Reply 14):
Folks, re-read the article. AirAsia isn't attributed to be doing anything...its founders are. The article says it would be a new carrier.

You are right... it will probably be a subsdiary of AK.


User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1442 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5817 times:

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 15):
I think TurkishWings flew EK and just noticed the FD delays based on his trip report..

Yes, this is what I mean... Air Asia flights out of BKK.. I know they don't fly to HKG.



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User currently offlineCoolSkyGuy From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 55 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5676 times:

wonder what aircrafts will they be using for the no frill long haul? Oasis is using the B747, still too early to tell if it's cost effective and profitable using such big aircraft...

User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 854 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5617 times:

If Air Asia is to start long-haul flights they´ll probebly get som second hand 744 or soon-to-be AC 343´s

Just my opinion n guess.

Micke// Big grin



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User currently offlineAtnight From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 606 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5562 times:

I thought AirMadrid was a LCC long-haul carrier.... (at least that's how and why they started).... however, if they are anything to go by, it's a HUGE no-no! I do wish them the best, but I would not do that or fly on such a carrier...


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User currently offlineCoolSkyGuy From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 55 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5502 times:

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 19):
If Air Asia is to start long-haul flights they´ll probebly get som second hand 744 or soon-to-be AC 343´s

Just my opinion n guess.

B747 will be cool.. B737-800 can be used for long range too...


User currently offlineAustralia1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5327 times:

MH will be in trouble if they operate KUL/LON.

Wonder if they'll do a Jetstar Int & offer 2 classes.

Maybe they'll do an Air Transat & put 363 seats in an A330-200 (2 classes) with 3-3-3 seating in Y ???


User currently offlineCoolSkyGuy From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 55 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5250 times:

Quoting Australia1 (Reply 22):
Wonder if they'll do a Jetstar Int & offer 2 classes.

Maybe they'll do an Air Transat & put 363 seats in an A330-200 (2 classes) with 3-3-3 seating in Y ???

Oasis does offer 2 cass configuration as well for HKG-LHR.


User currently offlineKulatict From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 120 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 5211 times:

Quoting CoolSkyGuy (Thread starter):
One of the routes under consideration is Kuala Lumpur to London, the Edge said.
National carrier Malaysia Airlines flies 18 times a week to London from Kuala Lumpur, and it is one of the few profitable routes on its international network.

knowing how well my government (Malaysia) would work to protect MH, that would NEVER gonna happen


25 CoolSkyGuy : True... but if AK is aggressively pushing to open the KUL-SIN route, soon it will do the same for KUL-LHR...
26 LTU932 : Actually, from what I remember, MH was allowed by the government to drop money losing domestic routes, but then the government backtracked and forced
27 Australia1 : It doesn't matter which airport near London they fly to. From what we know, STN is cheapest London area airport, although there must be other suitabl
28 LTU932 : IMO it does, especially given the fact that it's difficult as hell to get any of those highly coveted slots for flights into LHR. Bottom line: LHR co
29 Australia1 : It does matter from customers point of view which airport in London area. If saving heaps over legacy fares then transferring from an airport other t
30 CoolSkyGuy : The government is protecting MH... yeah... I mean LGW...
31 EBGflyer : Way to go Air Asia!!! I think they're a great airline. I've had like 7 very cheap flights with them and all I can say is..flawless!! The flight attend
32 Post contains images AirbusA6 : Singapore airport has so far prevented them from flying there - nothing to do with protecting SQ of course Instead, AK have a big hub at Johor Bharu,
33 CoolSkyGuy : Why is Singapore Airport stopping them from flying in? Don't they always want to be the hub of everything?
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