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2 A321s In PIA Cs  
User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4319 times:

http://www.planespotters.net/Airline...stan-International-Airlines#Photos

These 2 A321s are leased from Inter of Turkey , and reffering to Skyliner-aviation are in full PIA cs.
For how long time are they leased ? Only for Hadj time ?

More infos about them , would be very welcome.Thanks.

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User currently offlineCloud4000 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 641 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4270 times:

It could be for Hajj charters but I doubt it, PIA usually leases widebodies for that purpose. It could be related with PIA ongoing problems with the EU regarding its maintenance practices. PIA has withdrawn certain widebody aircraft from serving the US and Europe. These A321s would probably replace widebodies currently plying the Middle East, freeing them up for European and US service. Just my guess, of course.  biggrin 


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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3976 times:

Quoting Cloud4000 (Reply 1):
It could be for Hajj charters but I doubt it, PIA usually leases widebodies for that purpose. It could be related with PIA ongoing problems with the EU regarding its maintenance practices. PIA has withdrawn certain widebody aircraft from serving the US and Europe. These A321s would probably replace widebodies currently plying the Middle East, freeing them up for European and US service. Just my guess, of course.

Actually the widebodies will be back to Europe as the EASA is on the verge of approving the planes again...

Widebodies are still being flown to the Middle East (B777 and A310)....I think these A321's will be temporary.



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User currently offlineKHI747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1617 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3971 times:

Quoting Cloud4000 (Reply 1):
It could be for Hajj charters but I doubt it, PIA usually leases widebodies for that purpose. It could be related with PIA ongoing problems with the EU regarding its maintenance practices. PIA has withdrawn certain widebody aircraft from serving the US and Europe. These A321s would probably replace widebodies currently plying the Middle East, freeing them up for European and US service. Just my guess, of course.

Quite right Cloud4000.The A321 are indeed doing regional flights to the gulf.All KHI-DXB flights are atleast A321 right now i think.These planes certainly would not be used for Hajj,as you correctly mentioned PK needs widebodies for that.


User currently offlineEWS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3920 times:

The current regs of them are:

TC-IEF (Ex: G-MIDH)
TC-IEH (Ex: JA103A)

Lew


User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3975 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3876 times:

Anyone have photos of them?

User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3162 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3780 times:
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I'll check if I see them coming into DXB this weekend.
So the Luzair L1011 is no longer flying for PIA?



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User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3551 times:

Fly-K

Great idea !!!!!!! Try to do your best to take pictures.Danke schon.


User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 6038 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3381 times:

Quoting Fly-K (Reply 6):
I'll check if I see them coming into DXB this weekend.
So the Luzair L1011 is no longer flying for PIA?

A321 are doing Dubai from Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad and Peshawar. L1011 is flying daily Karachi-Peshawar.

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 2):
I think these A321's will be temporary.

They could be in the fleet for a couple of years considering they have been painted in full PIA scheme(flag tail) and PIA did place a tender in papers seeking these types for two years.


User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12862 posts, RR: 46
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3208 times:
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Quoting EWS (Reply 4):
The current regs of them are:

TC-IEF (Ex: G-MIDH)
TC-IEH (Ex: JA103A)

Lew

I saw two PIA A321s at DXB this morning. One was TC-IEG! I didn't get the reg of the other one.

AeroTransport Data Bank says they are
TC-IEF c/n 968
TC-IEG c/n 974

Checking my shots from today, I have found one of TC-IEH - it's being operated by Air Blue, not PIA.

[edited to add comment about ATDB]
[edited to add comment about Air Blue]

[Edited 2006-12-08 15:05:56]

[Edited 2006-12-08 15:30:00]


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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3078 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 8):
They could be in the fleet for a couple of years considering they have been painted in full PIA scheme(flag tail) and PIA did place a tender in papers seeking these types for two years.

IIRC..it depends on their leases too..they are subleased...belong to ILFC for BD, but are leased to another company until 2010, and being subleased by PK.....



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User currently offlineAirplaneFan From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2887 times:

Here is a photo of the two aircraft at DXB: http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/viewphoto.main?LC=nav2&picid=3385


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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 6038 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2789 times:

Not really in full livery.

User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2597 posts, RR: 29
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2698 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 8):
L1011 is flying daily Karachi-Peshawar.

Can anyoine conform the exact flights and how long this is for? I still have a valid visa for Pakistan and could easily catch a ride on the L1011. Any info at all appreciated.


User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1981 posts, RR: 23
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2581 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 12):
Not really in full livery.

Not in the latest colored tails scheme per se, but they look to be in the full last colors (flag tail)...

Konstantin-are you still shooting slides on the side or completely digital?

JSD



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User currently offlinePsimpson From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 338 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2468 times:

Nice picture showing the 2 PIA A321s in the flag livery. I just hope PIA will now repaint all the aircraft that are wearing those different tail livery designs back to the flag design.

User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3975 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2427 times:

Are the planes white? It looks that way in the photo...

User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3162 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2369 times:
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Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 14):
Konstantin-are you still shooting slides on the side or completely digital?

It's all digital but I still have my Canon EOS30.

Quoting Vasu (Reply 16):
Are the planes white? It looks that way in the photo...

Yes the fuselage is all white...



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 6038 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2249 times:

Quoting Psimpson (Reply 15):
Nice picture showing the 2 PIA A321s in the flag livery. I just hope PIA will now repaint all the aircraft that are wearing those different tail livery designs back to the flag design.

Thankfully the flag tail is not happeninng, how you like such a pathetic scheme is beyond comprehension, the tails have livened up the image a tad and they look delightful when different ones are parked next to each other, we are happy.


User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3162 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2087 times:
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Here she finally is:

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Photo © Konstantin von Wedelstaedt




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User currently offlineWA707atMSP From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2263 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2050 times:

Imagine how much better these airplanes would have looked in PIA's 1980's scheme?


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Photo © JetPix




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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 6038 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2011 times:

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 13):
Can anyoine conform the exact flights and how long this is for? I still have a valid visa for Pakistan and could easily catch a ride on the L1011. Any info at all appreciated.

L1011 are doing domestic flights to/from Karachi to Peshawar, Quetta and Islamabad check schedules here for each city seprately for more accuracy http://www.piac.com.pk/schedule/display_abc.asp?date=9:00:38%20PM

[Edited 2006-12-20 17:17:39]

User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3162 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (7 years 12 months 1 day ago) and read 1912 times:
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To complete the picture, here is Inter's 3rd A321 also serving in Pakistan this winter, with Airblue:

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