A350-200 From France, joined Oct 2000, 150 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (12 years 7 months 1 hour ago) and read 1261 times:
AF used to have a kind of "round the world" flight: CDG-LAX-PPT-NRT-CDG, but I think last parts of the flight may not have been operated by the same aircraft or the aircraft made long stops in PPT.
Not the same flight number !
Who has more details on that ?
Eraxandaf From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 154 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (12 years 7 months 1 hour ago) and read 1258 times:
The AF flight is #70 CDG-LAX-PPT and returns as #71 in the reverse order on a 744. The other flight from PPT-NRT-CDG was a separate flight originating as CDG-NRT-PPT twice a week on a 744 operating on entirely different days. Yes, it was a sort of round the world flight in that you could travel AF (and not a code share) around the world. AF no longer serves PPT from Tokyo, but they do serve Noumea from Tokyo originating in Paris, and of course the PPT flight still from CDG and LAX.
Timz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6465 posts, RR: 8 Reply 7, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1209 times:
Offhand, I'm guessing that in the last 20 years or so nobody has operated an actual round-the-world flight, flying one aircraft all the way around to the starting point. (And it rarely if ever happened before that.) I assume nobody has plans to do so.
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6079 posts, RR: 56 Reply 8, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1205 times:
United Airlines new round the world flight will use 744 all the way around and I think they will have the same aircraft all the way. When it starts in April, we'll know for certain. I remember reading somewhere that Qantas also used to have a round the world flight and it was probably discontinued in the 1970's sometime. The777Man
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LanChileA340 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 101 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1157 times:
I'm not too sure if this is relevant to what everyone is going on about, but Lan Chile had an around the world service in the mid 70's on the legendary 707's which Lan Chile had so cleverly equipt with a more spacious cabin and an in-flight entertainment system that actually worked (hint, hint, Air India and JAT had the same planes at the time-with no extras for pax comfort).
The flight used to originate at the Santiago hub to go on to Easter Island, Papeete, Nadi, Noumea, Sydney, Jakarta, New Delhi, Jerusalem, Paris, Amsterdam, Madrid, New York, Miami, Lima, Buenos Aires and finally Santiago. (This route was extremely popular with the French, as they had little options of accessing French Polynesia by Air, so they'd opt to fly Lan Chile from Paris onwards to Papeete and Noumea-WHOOF...what a long trip!!)
I have heard before that this flight is still one of the longest continuing flights to be registered by an airline in all of history (apart from KLM's AMS to AMS via Melbourne, Australia and Punta Arenas, Chile and so on).
These Lan Chile flights came to an end in 1983 when this type of routing seemed to interfere with international protocol (hint, hint, the Australian federal government) and passengers began to opt for "non-stop" services instead of the "hop-hop" services. Nevertheless, this historic Lan Chile flight is legendary in my eyes, seeing that our airline is one of a very few (ie KLM, SAS, Qantas, PanAm etc) that can declare to have legitimately operated a continuous "world" flight.
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BostonBeau From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 459 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1152 times:
Pan Am's original "round the world" flights actually were not quite round the world due to the CAB's refusing Pan Am rights to carry traffic between Los Angeles and New York and v/v prior to deregulation. TWA briefly also operated a round the world flight. For the bulk of its time it operated via New York, but I remember distinctly that at one point, it operated via Boston as flights 810/811. As I recall the routing was something like Boston/New York-Paris-Beirut-Delhi-Colombo-Bankgok-Taipei-Honolulu-Los Angeles. I may have missed one or two stops there though.
A350-200 From France, joined Oct 2000, 150 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1150 times:
"Santiago hub to go on to Easter Island, Papeete, Nadi, Noumea, Sydney, Jakarta, New Delhi, Jerusalem, Paris, Amsterdam, Madrid, New York, Miami, Lima, Buenos Aires and finally Santiago"
What a long travel... Better not seat in a coach class "double excuse seat"....
How long did they take at that time ?
What about non stop flights from Santiago to Europe ?
Most make stopover in BUE but are some currently nonstop or planned to operate soon ?
Acvitale From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 921 posts, RR: 13 Reply 15, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1138 times:
Pan Am could carry traffic between JFK-LAX but, only if it was online traffic to an international destination.
ie. JFK-LAX-NRT
or LAX-JFK-FCO
They did in fact run full round the world flights till the mid 1980s when the Pacific routes were sold to UA.
BostonBeau From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 459 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1120 times:
You're right, of course, Acvitale. I think it was listed in the timetables as (no local traffic) or (conditional stopover traffic only). I used to take PA002 from JFK to LHR occasionally. It was always a very interesting mix of passengers because of all the destinations the flight was bound for.
Timz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6465 posts, RR: 8 Reply 18, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1110 times:
Looking in the old OAGs I can't find any LAN Chile flights west of Tahiti or east of Frankfurt. The OAGs are July issues; did the round-the-world flight not operate in the southern winter?
When did KLM fly across the Pacific? When did SAS?
Qantas and TWA both had RTW network (TWA's only lasted a few years, starting about 1970), but far as I know neither ever operated one plane all the way (though TWA did do LAX-JFK westbound). If anyone knows different, say when.
UTA and Air France-- can anyone pin them down more closely?
I'm guessing China Airlines has never flown the Atlantic.
As for Pan Am, it seems they did have a weekly all-the-way-around 747 in 1976, but it only lasted a year or so. As far as I know it was never revived, and as far as I know Pan Am never flew all the way before 1976. If anyone knows different, say when.
As for earlier years, BOAC and Japan Air are possibles; any others?
UT501 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1104 times:
Hello !
UTA used to operate the only round the world flight travelling the 2 hemispheres.
The flight was CDG-SFO-LAX-PPT-AKL-NOU-SYD-CGK-SIN-BAH-CDG for the longest route or CDG-SFO-PPT-AKL-NOU-SYD-SIN-CDG for the fastest one. The CDG-PPT-NOU flight was operated by a DC10 and the NOU-CDG was operated by a 743 or a 744 depending on the stops on the route.
When Air France took over UTA they were the only one to offer 2 different round the world flight to their customers with CDG-LAX-PPT-NRT-CDG and CDG-LAX-PPT-AKL-NOU-SYD-SIN-CDG.
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