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Did This Really Happen To Concorde?  
User currently offlineCumulus From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1402 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 10700 times:

Looking at photo of the day, did they really let someone do this or is it a Photo-Shop job?


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[Edited 2006-11-29 10:35:03]


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User currently offlineGlobalVillage From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 10694 times:

Yes AF did actually let Pepsi do this to one of their aircraft. I think that aircraft couldn't go to Mach 2 because of heat of its surface.

User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 10694 times:

Yup, they did that all right.

It actually placed mach 2 restrictions on the aircraft due to the paint - they were advised not to remain at mach 2 for more than 20 minutes.


User currently offlinePRGDLGUY From Czech Republic, joined Sep 2006, 101 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 10547 times:

I thing there was another livery on Concorde too. Braniff and SQ...Planes were in original c/s on one side and other side was painted in c/s of SQ and Braniff....

please correct me if I´m wrong


User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 10542 times:

Quoting PRGDLGUY (Reply 3):
Braniff and SQ...Planes were in original c/s on one side and other side was painted in c/s of SQ and Braniff....

please correct me if I´m wrong

The BN colours were never used on Concorde. There are a lot of retouched pictures out there, but it never happened.

SQ had one side of Concorde painted in their livery.


User currently offlinePilot21 From Ireland, joined Oct 1999, 1384 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 10483 times:

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 4):
SQ had one side of Concorde painted in their livery.

It was a codeshare (or type of codeshare) back in the early 80's between BA and SQ, 1 side was in BA colours, 1 side in SQ colours on the LHR-SIN flights. I can't remember if the flight could do nonstop though, I seem to remember a stop in Bahrain, but that could have been a different flight. (anybody else confirm?)

As pointed out above, the Air France Pepsi aircraft as limited on it's Mach 2 time because the heat generated at that speed would start to peel the paint off, hence the reason for AF and BA's aircraft being painted white. (more related to BA which had blue and grey colour schemes on their sub-sonic planes at the time)



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User currently offlineVc10 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 10388 times:

Only one BA Concorde had it's port side painted in Singapore colours, and the the route was London-Bahrain- Singapore.

User currently offlineCumulus From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1402 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 10154 times:

It's DISGUSTING!!!!

How can such a marvel of engineering be bastardised is such manner? It looks like one of the nasty ex FR 732 logojets!

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User currently offlinePILOTALLEN From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 656 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 8525 times:

there was another paint scheme that was used really quick for a movie I think? the red white and blue looking one with stars or something of that sort....I had seen a picture somewheres in a magazine not too long ago....


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User currently offlineEdelag From Mexico, joined Dec 2005, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7998 times:

Quoting Cumulus (Reply 7):

How can such a marvel of engineering be bastardised is such manner?

I agree. But sadly they're the ones with the pen. I also find it distgusting. But its their plane they can do whatever they want with it.

[Edited 2006-11-30 03:12:23]


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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8440 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7894 times:

Quoting Edelag (Reply 9):
Quoting Cumulus (Reply 7):

How can such a marvel of engineering be bastardised is such manner?

I agree. But sadly they're the ones with the pen. I also find it distgusting. But its their plane they can do whatever they want with it.

When someone drops a couple of bags with dollar signs on your desk you tend to forget about such things.


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7403 posts, RR: 57
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7807 times:

Quoting PILOTALLEN (Reply 8):
there was another paint scheme that was used really quick for a movie I think?

Here it is :

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Air France Concorde F-BTSC was used for this (very bad) Movie.

Concerning the Pepsi Concorde Tour, F-BTSD was painted under the new Pepsi Colors (except the wings).
Because the new identity of Pepsi was based on the color blue, the aircraft would have to be painted alike. Therefore the Air France maintenance staff had to call Aérospatiale (successor of Sud Aviation) as the airplane, for which temperature is so important, was only certified with a white color scheme. They received approval to paint the fuselage in blue, but were advised to keep the wings in white (because of the fuel temperature).

It was advised to remain at M2.02 for about 20 minutes at most, but there was no restriction under M1.70. This was not a concern for Air France as the aircraft was not due to operate any scheduled flight to New York – John F. Kennedy (JFK) or any such long sector.
Air France required its name to be kept close to the cockpit, as well as the seahorse despite the Pepsi scheme

The Concorde registered F-BTSD (c/n 213) was selected for maintenance availability reasons. The paint work was started in late March 1996 at the Air France maintenance facility of Paris – Orly (ORY), where all airplanes go after their D-check to get a new livery. It required 200 liters of paint and 2,000 hours of work.

The show took place on 02 April 1996, with the presence of Claudia Schiffer, Andre Agassi, Cindy Crawford, and hundreds of journalists invited by Pepsi for the event. People were really astonished to see the Concorde with the blue livery. Flight attendants each had a special pin on their uniform designed for the occasion.

Afterwards, “Sierra Delta” started a promotion campaign in Europe and the Middle East. For the Pepsi commercial operation, there were a total of 16 flights (including the ferry flights from ORY) and 10 cities visited. Each flight, except the first and last ones, would have been occasions to go supersonic

Pepsi Concorde Tour :

31 March Paris (ORY)-London (LGW)
02 April London (LGW)-London (LGW)
03 April London (LGW)-Dublin (DUB)
03 April Dublin (DUB)-Dublin (DUB)
04 April Dublin (DUB)-Stockholm (ARN)
04 April Stockholm (ARN)-Stockholm (ARN)
04 April Stockholm (ARN)-Paris (CDG)
06 April Paris (CDG)-Beirut (BEY)
07 April Beirut (BEY)-Dubai (DXB)
07 April Dubai (DXB)-Dubai (DXB)
07 April Dubai (DXB)-Jeddah (JED)
08 April Jeddah (JED)-Cairo (CAI)
08 April Cairo (CAI)-Milan (LIN)
09 April Milan (LIN)-Madrid (MAD)
09 April Madrid (MAD)-Madrid (MAD)
09 April Madrid (MAD)-Paris (ORY)

[Edited 2006-11-30 03:29:33]

User currently offlineRobertS975 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 938 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7639 times:
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Looking at the Pepsi plane landing, it sure looks like they were close to striking some aft parts of the engine on the runway, doesn't it?

User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7403 posts, RR: 57
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7522 times:

Quoting RobertS975 (Reply 12):
Looking at the Pepsi plane landing, it sure looks like they were close to striking some aft parts of the engine on the runway, doesn't it?

That's a rather standard landing position for Concorde ...


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User currently offlineDeltaJet757 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7299 times:

Pepsi actually had an AF Concorde painted in their colors. Don't know any other reason why except for advertisement and to promote the drinking of Pepsi.

-DeltaJet757



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User currently offlineAviateur From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1351 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6098 times:

I believe F-BTSC, pictured in generic "Concorde" livery in the post above by FlySCC, was the plane that crashed near Paris in 2000.

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User currently offlineFRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2347 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5417 times:

Quoting Aviateur (Reply 15):
I believe F-BTSC, pictured in generic "Concorde" livery in the post above by FlySCC, was the plane that crashed near Paris in 2000.

That is correct...



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