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Shortest Life Of An (non-crash) Airliner?  
User currently offlineN231YE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 14315 times:

While browsing around the database, I found this aircraft, an MD-90: P4-MDG, was delivered in 1998:


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...stored in 2000 (only 2 years of flying), and was scrapped eight years after it was built:


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My question is, what other aircraft have lived short lives (excluding crashes), and why? I understand from the photographer's comments this aircraft was supposed to have a new registration and start a new life, but that did not happen.

[Edited 2006-11-29 22:26:51]

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User currently offlineKeego From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 14303 times:

Quoting N231YE (Thread starter):
...stored in 2000 (only 2 years of flying), and was scrapped eight years later:

So it was scrapped in 2008????


User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7408 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 14305 times:
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Maybe the RG 777 that's on the chopping block


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User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 14251 times:

Many DC-7s had very short life-spans coming at the dawn of the jet-age.
Most went to secondary carriers or cargo carriers.

Quoting Keego (Reply 1):
So it was scrapped in 2008????

Maybe he meant "Months"?



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User currently offlineN231YE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 14244 times:

Quoting Keego (Reply 1):
So it was scrapped in 2008



Quoting Stirling (Reply 3):
Maybe he meant "Months"?

My mistake, the sentence originally read that it was scrapped eight years after it was built, then I did some editing when I found out its service life and storage date, so the math got a little "out-of-whack." But I fixed the sentence.


User currently offlineN707PA From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 279 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 14224 times:

1958 build 1649 Lockheed Constellations were scrapped in the early 1960's.

User currently offlineJoemac547 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 118 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 14223 times:
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I believe what was said was that the airframe it was scrapped 8 years after it was built (which would be 2006) not 8 years after it was put in storage.

User currently offlineSpartanmjf From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 500 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 14108 times:

What happened to the DH Comet I aircraft [BOAC etc] that had the structural design fault - the ones grounded after the final Comet I accident?


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User currently offlineTrijetsRMissed From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2350 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 14078 times:

Quoting N231YE (Thread starter):
I understand from the photographer's comments this aircraft was supposed to have a new registration and start a new life, but that did not happen.

Does anyone know why this aircraft was scrapped? A shortage of parts maybe? Just seems odd that this relatively new and advanced aircraft couldn't find a home with an airline.



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User currently offlineBrettFromCLT From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 14034 times:

I love how they have the wing propped up with a dog house and a railroad tie.

User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1981 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 13885 times:

As the photographer of the airplane at MZJ, and a former Pro Air employee, I can add some further info to this forum.

All 3 MD-90s, and this has been discussed in a couple of threads previously, were worth more for their parts than the leasing company was going to get for the entire airframe leasing it out. P4-MDF, MDG and MDH all had around 5,000hrs and met their makers during the early parts of the summer '06. When I was there, the blue tailed one (MDH) had already been completely broken up as there was no signs left of it. The green one, MDG, was as the photo showed, down to the tube, while the orange one, MDF, still had the flight deck attached (photos are available on this site but not going to plug it)...

The engines alone were worth more than the leasing company was going to get. In reality, there were only a couple of airlines even interested in these frames (Lion Air and Ghana were rumored)...

JSD



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User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5413 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 13846 times:

I think the A380 might be the winner  Wink


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User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 13841 times:

My pick is the A330 of MH which was w/o after transporting undeclared dangerous goods and was parted out completly and scrapped.

AFAIK it was only a few months in service.


User currently offlineN231YE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 13696 times:

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 10):
The engines alone were worth more than the leasing company was going to get. In reality, there were only a couple of airlines even interested in these frames (Lion Air and Ghana were rumored)...

So I take it that low demand is what 'killed' these birds? Since nobody wanted them, their value to lease was lower than that of their parts (laws of supply and demand), so they were subsequently scrapped...


User currently offlineScaledesigns From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 13535 times:

After WWII the Consolidated type 39 Liberator(B24 wings) was only in
service for 3 months with American Airlines.It was scrapped several months
later.
The Republic Rainbow was only around for a few years before being scrapped
after AA dropped the order.

Im sure the list is very long as they used to design and build alot more
airliner types back in the 1940s-1960s.



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User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 13480 times:

Quoting N231YE (Thread starter):
While browsing around the database, I found this aircraft, an MD-90: P4-MDG, was delivered in 1998

Wow, I saw this MD-90 delivered when I worked at Douglas. Sad to see it scrapped so soon.  Sad


User currently offlineN231YE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 13440 times:

Quoting Scaledesigns (Reply 14):
After WWII the Consolidated type 39 Liberator(B24 wings) was only in
service for 3 months with American Airlines.It was scrapped several months
later.

Come to think of it, although WWII military; some of the short-lived B-32 Dominators (arrived in the war too late) were flown directly from the factory to the scrapyard...


User currently offlineAeroWeanie From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1608 posts, RR: 52
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 13429 times:
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Martin built an airliner called the 303 in 1946-47. It was a pressurized version of the 202. Customers included United Airlines, Braniff and Panagra. After problems were experienced with the 202 in flight test, the airlines cancelled their orders for the 303 and this led to the program being cancelled. The first two 303s were complete at the time and 87 flight hours had been amassed. To get a $15 million tax carry-back credit, Martin scrapped the aircraft and destroyed all records pertaining to the program. Only two photos are known to survive of the aircraft.

User currently offlineConcentriq From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 368 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 13130 times:

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 12):
My pick is the A330 of MH which was w/o after transporting undeclared dangerous goods and was parted out completly and scrapped.

anyone has more on this?? sounds interesting!



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User currently offlineKeego From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 12978 times:

Quoting N231YE (Reply 4):
My mistake, the sentence originally read that it was scrapped eight years after it was built, then I did some editing when I found out its service life and storage date, so the math got a little "out-of-whack." But I fixed the sentence

ahh only a bit of light hearted banter stirthepot , I guessed that's what it meant (ie scrapped in 06)


User currently offlineFlyingNanook From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 830 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 12948 times:

Quoting Concentriq (Reply 18):
Quoting OHLHD (Reply 12):
My pick is the A330 of MH which was w/o after transporting undeclared dangerous goods and was parted out completly and scrapped.

anyone has more on this?? sounds interesting!

I assume that this is the incident he's talking about.

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20000315-0



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User currently offlineLH648 From Kazakhstan, joined Sep 2006, 577 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 12921 times:

Some Tupolev-144 were build but never flown or flown once.

Two 330-200 of Sri Lankan were build in 2000 and burnt on the ground in 2001.



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User currently offlineGlobalVillage From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 12213 times:

Quoting LMP737 (Reply 15):
Wow, I saw this MD-90 delivered when I worked at Douglas. Sad to see it scrapped so soon.

Sad to see Douglas scrapped as well.  Wink


User currently offlineSNA350 From Belgium, joined Dec 2005, 129 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 11677 times:

Quoting Concentriq (Reply 18):
anyone has more on this?? sounds interesting!

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20000315-0&lang=en

it was delivered in '95, so it had 5 years of flying



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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4325 posts, RR: 36
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 11151 times:

Quoting SNA350 (Reply 23):
anyone has more on this?? sounds interesting!

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20000315-0&lang=en

it was delivered in '95, so it had 5 years of flying

Plus you can consider it a "write-off" even while not in an actual aircrash. There have been more new frames damaged in hangar fires etc. We are looking here for frames which are not damaged but didn't even reach the first D check yet.



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25 Cricket : The compound was a Mercury based compound and Mercury and Aluminium (Aluminum for some) don't mix too well - so it was an incident, which is why it i
26 Post contains images OHLHD : Yes it is!
27 D950 : Possibly, but in this instance the leasing company was charging 2-3x more than some were being leased at. Hello initially had interest, and eventuall
28 D950 : But the aircraft itself continues for Aerolineas Argentinas!!
29 Post contains links and images Oly720man : The attempt to re-engine the BAe146/RJ only lasted a couple of years 2001 View Large View MediumPhoto © Europix - AirTeamImages 2003 arriving at
30 Post contains images UpperDeck79 : Lol, i missread the title as being Shortest life of an airline. Sorry about that...
31 Post contains links and images Irobertson : Good thing this isn't for "any" aircraft, or all the experimental fighters and bombers would take up pages and pages of space. I'm going to nominate t
32 Post contains links Isua380b777 : This was a deleberate terrorist attack which lead to burn down of these planes. Reference: http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20010724
33 Post contains images CRJonBeez : good find! is that a garrett tfe 731 strapped to the wings? thanks for the pictures! it brings back fond memories of air wisconsin for me. if anybody
34 Trintocan : Back in the 1950s and 60s the faster turnover of airliner designs meant that planes became obsolete much more quickly than they do now. A classic exam
35 Post contains links Dtwclipper : Sorry, but the Republic Rainbow never flew as a Civil Aircraft. "The Rainbow was over 25% faster than the competition. It was to have been the fastes
36 Scaledesigns : Thats true,but the airliner version was basically the same without bomb bays.What a great looking aircraft that was!! AA was the last airline to drop
37 Dtwclipper : What's the title of the book...I'd be interested in finding a copy.
38 Post contains links N231YE : Now that I think about it, I believe the Bristol Brabazon had some of the same fate as shown above with other airliners. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki
39 Unicorn : I believe that there was a quite new A330 (cannot remember the carrier) that suffered a spill of mercury within the cargo hold. The mercury did so muc
40 Post contains links Oly720man : Malaysian, reply 12. Honeywell AS977, apparently. http://www.aerospace-technology.com/projects/avrorjx/ Very sad times when it was cancelled.... the
41 VV701 : There were eleven DH Comet 1s built: MSN 6001 G-ALVG ff 27/7/49. Broken up Farnborough 7/53 MSN 6002 G-ALZK ff 27/5/50. Broken up Hatfield 7/57 MSN 6
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